BrySmalls Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 AHL hockey is probably more realistic for a market where it's never going to be more than a very small niche. Let greater Phoenix and the (snort, chuckle) Jobing.com Arena prove themselves on a smaller scale and maybe they can get an NHL team back down the road.Phoenix has had difficulty supporting the various incarnations of the Roadrunners. Who?s to say if the Yotes move, that there would be an AHL team in Phoenix to root for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Jobing.com [edit: again, snort!] Arena was not built to house an AHL franchise.That's more or less what they housed for the last five years. Besides, it would be comparable to the arenas in Cleveland, San Antonio, Houston, Rosemont, Charlotte, and Milwaukee, fine facilities all. It's not a league of little barns in cozy old northeastern towns anymore (whether or not it should be is debatable). If it's going to be a national circuit of big cities that probably kinda might like hockey but not really, Phoenix is the perfect fit. Also, if the NHL leaves, Phoenix should still get the 2011 All-Star Game. It would be a nice mid-winter reward for players, and it would bring in all the fans of teams back home.Phoenix has had difficulty supporting the various incarnations of the Roadrunners. Who's to say if the Yotes move, that there would be an AHL team in Phoenix to root for?Look, I'm trying to think positive here. I'm trying to be a friend to Phoenix and a friend to America. So then they've had difficulty supporting hockey in every iteration. Then I don't know what to do. Maybe people should stop trying to run ice hockey teams in a goddamned desert. I don't know. I wasn't the guy that decided to build a big freaking arena in a region that couldn't fill event dates for two major buildings. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB61 Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Jobing.com Arena wasn't built to house an AHL franchise.Neither was the Spectrum, and that pretty much extended its life by another decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrySmalls Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Jobing.com [edit: again, snort!] Arena was not built to house an AHL franchise.That's more or less what they housed for the last five years. Besides, it would be comparable to the arenas in Cleveland, San Antonio, Houston, Rosemont, Charlotte, and Milwaukee, fine facilities all. It's not a league of little barns in cozy old northeastern towns anymore (whether or not it should be is debatable). If it's going to be a national circuit of big cities that probably kinda might like hockey but not really, Phoenix is the perfect fit. Also, if the NHL leaves, Phoenix should still get the 2011 All-Star Game. It would be a nice mid-winter reward for players, and it would bring in all the fans of teams back home.Phoenix has had difficulty supporting the various incarnations of the Roadrunners. Who's to say if the Yotes move, that there would be an AHL team in Phoenix to root for?Look, I'm trying to think positive here. I'm trying to be a friend to Phoenix and a friend to America. So then they've had difficulty supporting hockey in every iteration. Then I don't know what to do. Maybe people should stop trying to run ice hockey teams in a goddamned desert. I don't know. I wasn't the guy that decided to build a big freaking arena in a region that couldn't fill event dates for two major buildings.One of the few positives out of this mess in Phoenix, is that the Coyotes are in the playoffs this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodboy13 Posted March 30, 2010 Author Share Posted March 30, 2010 AHL hockey is probably more realistic for a market where it's never going to be more than a very small niche. Let greater Phoenix and the (snort, chuckle) Jobing.com Arena prove themselves on a smaller scale and maybe they can get an NHL team back down the road.Phoenix has had difficulty supporting the various incarnations of the Roadrunners. Who?s to say if the Yotes move, that there would be an AHL team in Phoenix to root for?I thought the IHL Roadrunners did fairly well. Obviously, they had to close up shop once the Coyotes came in, but they seemed to have a fairly decent go of it up until then. On 1/25/2013 at 1:53 PM, 'Atom said: For all the bird de lis haters I think the bird de lis isnt supposed to be a pelican and a fleur de lis I think its just a fleur de lis with a pelicans head. Thats what it looks like to me. Also the flair around the tip of the beak is just flair that fleur de lis have sometimes source I am from NOLA. PotD: 10/19/07, 08/25/08, 07/22/10, 08/13/10, 04/15/11, 05/19/11, 01/02/12, and 01/05/12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 Jobing.com Arena wasn't built to house an AHL franchise.In a year or two it won't be housing an NHL franchise either.I'm sure it's a perfectly fine facility to host job fairs in though. "Come to the Greater Phoenix job fair, this Friday at the Jobbing.com Areana". Or it could host Monster Truck rallies, or be turned in to the new Glendale Public Library. Think of all the books they could cram in there! Just playing... sort of. "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 I'm sure it's a perfectly fine facility to host job fairs in though. "Come to the Greater Phoenix job fair, this Friday at the Jobbing.com Areana".Too far away! ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodboy13 Posted March 31, 2010 Author Share Posted March 31, 2010 Jobing.com Arena wasn't built to house an AHL franchise.In a year or two it won't be housing an NHL franchise either.I'm sure it's a perfectly fine facility to host job fairs in though. "Come to the Greater Phoenix job fair, this Friday at the Jobbing.com Areana". Or it could host Monster Truck rallies, or be turned in to the new Glendale Public Library. Think of all the books they could cram in there! Just playing... sort of.If they start spelling it that way, it'll be a natural for WWE events. On 1/25/2013 at 1:53 PM, 'Atom said: For all the bird de lis haters I think the bird de lis isnt supposed to be a pelican and a fleur de lis I think its just a fleur de lis with a pelicans head. Thats what it looks like to me. Also the flair around the tip of the beak is just flair that fleur de lis have sometimes source I am from NOLA. PotD: 10/19/07, 08/25/08, 07/22/10, 08/13/10, 04/15/11, 05/19/11, 01/02/12, and 01/05/12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 Yeah - you just walk in the door and lay on your back.Maybe that's what the Rams should rename their dome to. "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 I'll second the motion that the Chicago Wolves and Hartford Wolf Pack move to the NHL,with Atlanta and Phoenix going to the AHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 I'll second the motion that the Chicago Wolves and Hartford Wolf Pack move to the NHL,with Atlanta and Phoenix going to the AHL.Hartford needs fans first. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 I'll second the motion that the Chicago Wolves and Hartford Wolf Pack move to the NHL,with Atlanta and Phoenix going to the AHL.I don't think anyone made that motion in the first place. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 I'll second the motion that the Chicago Wolves and Hartford Wolf Pack move to the NHL,with Atlanta and Phoenix going to the AHL.I don't think anyone made that motion in the first place.You may be right. I think I got the idea from this:I really think the Chicago Wolves should just be independent. They're probably more profitable than the Atlanta Thrashers are, and are clearly much more concerned with coordinating Al Secord Bobblehead Night than working with their nominal parent team (and no parent team is more nominal than this one) to develop talent. Field a team of NHL washouts like Chelios and KHL-ish guys who are beholden to no one and tear up the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Well, it's almost been a year so lets check on "Glendale North"City won't even let taxpayers know how much they are on the hook for this season.Please note that the Heat's attendance is down slightly and the city paid almost half a million last season as per the agreement.Whoopsie.Also for the LULZSadly, most of the savings went straight to the goddamn hockey team. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcj882000 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 A friend of mine sent me this today, I thought I should share it...http://www.abbotsfordtimes.com/Vancouver+Canucks+move+affiliate+Abbotsford/4417306/story.html#ixzz1GE3xpf57 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee. Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Jesus Christ, Chilliwack is maybe-MAYBE-30 miles from Abbotsford. Oh, there's NO way the two cities will skeletonize each other for fanbase. Can the Flames NOT figure out a way to keep their farm team out of Canucks territory?The only advantages to this kind of move are 1. The Flames being able to use the same jerseys and logo for the 'Wack as they do for the parent club, and 2. Abby changing their name from that stupid "Heat" to something more reflective of the community, like "Meth Dogs" or something. Welcome to DrunjFlix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodboy13 Posted March 10, 2011 Author Share Posted March 10, 2011 Jesus Christ, Chilliwack is maybe-MAYBE-30 miles from Abbotsford. Oh, there's NO way the two cities will skeletonize each other for fanbase. Can the Flames NOT figure out a way to keep their farm team out of Canucks territory?The only advantages to this kind of move are 1. The Flames being able to use the same jerseys and logo for the 'Wack as they do for the parent club, and 2. Abby changing their name from that stupid "Heat" to something more reflective of the community, like "Meth Dogs" or something.21 miles, actually.If the dominoes fall like this, it actually benefits Abbotsford in the short-term, because now they have a travel partner to split travel costs for every single team that comes in from 2,000 miles away. In fact, if they can sucker Langley into sinking millions into their own 7,000-seat arena, then they could have a nice little provincial road trip cluster. You know, just like Austin, Houston, and San Antonio, except those three are actual cities that have the capacity to support high-minor hockey and won't wither and die after pissing away millions of subsidized travel costs. But other than that, exactly the same. On 1/25/2013 at 1:53 PM, 'Atom said: For all the bird de lis haters I think the bird de lis isnt supposed to be a pelican and a fleur de lis I think its just a fleur de lis with a pelicans head. Thats what it looks like to me. Also the flair around the tip of the beak is just flair that fleur de lis have sometimes source I am from NOLA. PotD: 10/19/07, 08/25/08, 07/22/10, 08/13/10, 04/15/11, 05/19/11, 01/02/12, and 01/05/12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 I wonder what the price points for AHL hockey would be relative to WHL. If they're about the same, then this grand shuffle doesn't really accomplish much more than squeezing the useless ECHL out of Victoria. It also helps with AHL travel, like you said, though I still don't think it's a bright idea for the AHL to be west of the Mississippi. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee. Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Jesus Christ, Chilliwack is maybe-MAYBE-30 miles from Abbotsford. Oh, there's NO way the two cities will skeletonize each other for fanbase. Can the Flames NOT figure out a way to keep their farm team out of Canucks territory?The only advantages to this kind of move are 1. The Flames being able to use the same jerseys and logo for the 'Wack as they do for the parent club, and 2. Abby changing their name from that stupid "Heat" to something more reflective of the community, like "Meth Dogs" or something.21 miles, actually.If the dominoes fall like this, it actually benefits Abbotsford in the short-term, because now they have a travel partner to split travel costs for every single team that comes in from 2,000 miles away. In fact, if they can sucker Langley into sinking millions into their own 7,000-seat arena, then they could have a nice little provincial road trip cluster. You know, just like Austin, Houston, and San Antonio, except those three are actual cities that have the capacity to support high-minor hockey and won't wither and die after pissing away millions of subsidized travel costs. But other than that, exactly the same.Oh, I think 5300 is probably fine. Welcome to DrunjFlix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Doctor Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 I know this is from a year ago, but...Letting a city go bankrupt just to house a hockey team is downright depressing....oh, the irony... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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