undead Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 Wow, Fraser those last three are outrageous. That Bison has a sense of speed and power. The outlaws is freaky scary good. Thanks for treating us. Portfoliobobschultz6' class="bbc_url">@bobschultz6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc51design Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 I was trying to make an update over Richmond Tigers logo, and this one was my third try of doing it, but I'm extremely unhappy with the result. Would like some help and advices. lockerroom51 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GFB Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 I was trying to make an update over Richmond Tigers logo, and this one was my third try of doing it, but I'm extremely unhappy with the result. Would like some help and advices.When you try to improve a crappy logo when using said crappy logo as your only guide, the most likely result is that you will produce a crappy logo.Look at pictures of snarling/roaring tigers, as well as good logos of tigers, and study them. Ask yourself: "How do they build the face?" "What parts do they have in common?" "What parts are emphasized the most?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc51design Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 i actually did use good logos as a reference (Hamilton Tiger Cats and Sound Cats) while doing this logo. I only used richmond logo to stay with proportions, to say that it's redesign, not completely new design. lockerroom51 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grageg Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 This is only my second shot at drawing a logo from scratch. I'd welcome any advice from professionals, as the image has been burnt into my eyes...I can't see where it needs to go from here. I was also struggling with the wordmark.Ridgemont Golden Gophers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undead Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 This is only my second shot at drawing a logo from scratch. I'd welcome any advice from professionals, as the image has been burnt into my eyes...I can't see where it needs to go from here. I was also struggling with the wordmark.Ridgemont Golden GophersThis is a really good start. I'd say you need to use thicker, bolder strokes. Also, think about how the logo will look in black and white. Right now it won't really look like anything because there's not a lot of interior shapes. Give and indication of some fur or a muzzle, anything to add definition. Shadows will add some depth. All these things will turn this into a dynamic, timeless logo.I look forward to an update. Portfoliobobschultz6' class="bbc_url">@bobschultz6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grageg Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Thanks for the advice! I already think it's improved greatly. I'm still torn over the whiskers that I added. The stroke is thin, which I know I should avoid...but I'm not sure how else to execute whiskers, or if I should leave them off altogether. I still may have a little bit of a contrast issue...any other places you'd recommend adding shadows?I appreciate you lending your eyes and expertise...sometimes it's hard to see what you're doing wrong when you've been looking at it so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undead Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 That does look a lot better. IMO I would lose the whiskers. How about just adding 3 circles to give the indication of whiskers the way they used to do in old cartoons? The shine you added to the nose added a lot of depth. I would probably add some shadow under the neck and on the back of the head/ear area.Keep it up. Portfoliobobschultz6' class="bbc_url">@bobschultz6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbull Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 ^agreed, very nice job on this one man, colors flow well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grageg Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Here is my latest iteration. I talked to a few (non-graphic) people who gave me some advice as well. I've incorporated the following changes as a result:1. Added additional shadowing. To get the most opportunity for good shadow, while staying consistent, I changed the lighting on the eyes and nose too.2. Lightened the second shade of gold for additional contrast.3. Took off the whiskers. I tried circular variations as a replacement, but they always came out looking a bit "cheesy". I'm not sure if the mouth area still needs something or not.4. Added a furrowed brow to the eye. I recieved some feedback that the eye was a bit "feminine" before.I guess I'm looking for feedback on the above changes and also opinions on whether or not this has an overall "gopher-y" look. I tried google images to get my baseline, but some people I talked to were a bit torn on whether it fit traditional perceptions of a gopher and would be accepted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcrosby Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 It looks a bit like the teeth become one, pointed tooth. Try squaring them off a bit or somehow making them look more like 2 separate teeth. https://twitter.com/OutOfThisWC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9erssteve Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Here is my latest iteration. I talked to a few (non-graphic) people who gave me some advice as well. I've incorporated the following changes as a result:1. Added additional shadowing. To get the most opportunity for good shadow, while staying consistent, I changed the lighting on the eyes and nose too.2. Lightened the second shade of gold for additional contrast.3. Took off the whiskers. I tried circular variations as a replacement, but they always came out looking a bit "cheesy". I'm not sure if the mouth area still needs something or not.4. Added a furrowed brow to the eye. I recieved some feedback that the eye was a bit "feminine" before.I guess I'm looking for feedback on the above changes and also opinions on whether or not this has an overall "gopher-y" look. I tried google images to get my baseline, but some people I talked to were a bit torn on whether it fit traditional perceptions of a gopher and would be accepted.Best advice I could give at this stage would be to take the design you have copy it to a new doc so it's on a pure white page (if you're anything like me docs tend to get littered with various iterations and attempts at either full designs or specific parts), then reduce it down to about 20% it's current size and see how it holds up.What you've got to remember is that a sports logo, especially on say a football helmet needs to identifiable from the seats in the stadium so it will look pretty small. It's also gonna have to be reduced from the size the actual helmet decal is to appear on merchandise such as hats polo shirts, even sports cards and TV where it will be used even smaller!By reducing it right down you'll spot which parts of the design start to disappear and it's those you should concentrate on. Personally I'd also looking at creating a greater contrast between your two "golds" but I think you'll probably see that yourself when you reduce things down.9erssteve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grageg Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 I finished...thanks for all the advice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skier14 Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 Great work on this, it improved tremendously! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHcreative Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 Wow Craig, thst really is an outstanding logo. I love it, nice job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbull Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 Yeah very nice job on the logo man, came together really well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elsephen Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 Wow. Talk about progression.Started out good and became great very easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enotsdesign Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Wow. Talk about progression.Started out good and became great very easily.well put. facebook | behance | deviant art Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJSCOTT Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 LOVE the final product there! might be one of my favorite original concept logos I ever seen on here! Great job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFr Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 i actually did use good logos as a reference (Hamilton Tiger Cats and Sound Cats) while doing this logo. I only used richmond logo to stay with proportions, to say that it's redesign, not completely new design.I'd say that your problems are with the roundness and the eyes. It looks kind of fat. My NHL Rebrand BlogCheck it out and comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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