ltjets21 Posted April 16, 2010 Author Share Posted April 16, 2010 The giants would be in Minessota No Twins, No Mets , Senators in LA,No SF Giants, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaltimoreFan Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 Didn't Robert Moses want to build a dome with equidistant outfield fences? The plans have been posted here before. It would've been really ugly.I believe it was Walter O'Malley who wanted to build the dome. It would have been the first in baseball. O'Malley had a site picked out and plans made up to build it. I think the site was an abandoned meat packing plant or something like that. It seemed like the perfect plan. However Robert Moses refused to let the stadium be built there. He would only allow for a stadium to be built in Queens (the site that eventually became Shea). This lead to O'Malley moving the team to LA. At least thats what I remember from an HBO documentary I watched a couple years ago on the Brooklyn Dodgers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaltimoreFan Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 The giants would be in Minessota No Twins, No Mets , Senators in LA,No SF Giants,The Senators wouldn't have been able to move to California by themselves. The travel costs would have been too much to just have one team out there. They would have needed to convince another team to go with them. O'Malley had to convice the Giants to move with him in order to move the Dodgers to LA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 The giants would be in Minessota No Twins, No Mets , Senators in LA,No SF Giants,The Senators wouldn't have been able to move to California by themselves. The travel costs would have been too much to just have one team out there. They would have needed to convince another team to go with them. O'Malley had to convice the Giants to move with him in order to move the Dodgers to LA.More correct than the thoughts of 'ltjets21'. 'ltjets21' just conduct an internet search on the history of the move, read it, and then form your conclusions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 The giants would be in Minessota No Twins, No Mets , Senators in LA,No SF Giants,Are these your own thoughts or have you merely synthesized everyone else's opinions on the matter? On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 The giants would be in Minessota No Twins, No Mets , Senators in LA,No SF Giants,Are these your own thoughts or have you merely synthesized everyone else's opinions on the matter?Somebody may have some sport of paper due tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthStar74 Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 Wasn't there a book that mentioned something about that?? I seem to remember reading a book in the library about the Dodgers and Giants moving out west and more.. I, for my life, can't seem to remember the title of the book but it was very interesting and I could imagine why that would be the case for when the Dodgers and Giants made the move out west back in the 1950s... wouldn't mind reading that book again and see how this relates to this topic... Ice Hockey International Winnipeg Braves (Bobby Hull Division 18-3-0 1st place as of March 14, 2011)2010-11 O'Brien Trophy for Bobby Hull Division championship & Jack Riley Cup for top team in league regular season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 No MetsSooooo, Tank would be a Yankees fan?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infrared41 Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 No MetsSooooo, Tank would be a Yankees fan?... No. Everything would be exactly the same except he'd be saying it about The Dodgers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aci Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 New York would have two winning teams. Hamilton Eagles- 2012 and 2013 Continental Hockey League Champions! 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014 & 2015 CHL East Division Champions! Niagara Dragoons- 2012 United League and CCSLC World Series Champions! 2012, 2013, 2014 and 2015 UL Robinson Division Champions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaltimoreFan Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 I'm just curious, were the Giants thinking of leaving New York independently of the Dodgers? The documentary that I watched seemed to imply that Walter O'Malley had to convince the Giants to move with him (in order to make LA work). But before O'Malley talked with them, the Giants had no real intentions of moving. I may be remembering wrong though, its been about 3 years since I've seen the documentary. If anyone is interested, the documentary I'm refering to is HBO's 2007 "Brooklyn Dodgers- The Ghosts of Flatbush". Very interesting and worth watching if your a baseball fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 No MetsSooooo, Tank would be a Yankees fan?... No. Everything would be exactly the same except he'd be saying it about The Dodgers.Omar Minaya would be ruining the Dodgers? "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillz Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 What if the Yankees moved west instead of the Dodgers and Giants? What if the Red Sox filled the void the Yankees would have left in NYC? What if all three New York teams left the city? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 What if baseball was played by robots instead of people, and the real game was in which teams could sign the best free agent engineers to tweak their robots to perform better? The robots would just be painted, so they wouldn't really need traditional jerseys, so what would fans buy? "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee. Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 What if baseball was played by robots instead of people, and the real game was in which teams could sign the best free agent engineers to tweak their robots to perform better? The robots would just be painted, so they wouldn't really need traditional jerseys, so what would fans buy?Porn, at least until the internet was invented. Then they'd move on to RealDolls. Welcome to DrunjFlix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 What if baseball was played by robots instead of people, and the real game was in which teams could sign the best free agent engineers to tweak their robots to perform better? The robots would just be painted, so they wouldn't really need traditional jerseys, so what would fans buy?I suspect this sport would do gangbusters in the Old South. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightningRide75 Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 I think the real question that needs to be asked is: What if the A's never left Kansas City? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddball Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 What if Bud Selig never became commissioner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmm Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 I'm just curious, were the Giants thinking of leaving New York independently of the Dodgers? The documentary that I watched seemed to imply that Walter O'Malley had to convince the Giants to move with him (in order to make LA work). But before O'Malley talked with them, the Giants had no real intentions of moving. I may be remembering wrong though, its been about 3 years since I've seen the documentary. If anyone is interested, the documentary I'm refering to is HBO's 2007 "Brooklyn Dodgers- The Ghosts of Flatbush". Very interesting and worth watching if your a baseball fan.Yes, the Giants were considering moving to Minnesota. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkrdevil Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 I'm just curious, were the Giants thinking of leaving New York independently of the Dodgers? The documentary that I watched seemed to imply that Walter O'Malley had to convince the Giants to move with him (in order to make LA work). But before O'Malley talked with them, the Giants had no real intentions of moving. I may be remembering wrong though, its been about 3 years since I've seen the documentary. If anyone is interested, the documentary I'm refering to is HBO's 2007 "Brooklyn Dodgers- The Ghosts of Flatbush". Very interesting and worth watching if your a baseball fan.I've always heard that the Giants were moving regardless, that they almost had a deal with Minneapolis until O'Malley came in and requested them to move to California so that his move would work. What I don't understand is why the Giants didn't take the Queens stadium plan and stay in NY as possibly the only NL team. I would have to assume the proposal was available to both teams. It would be better off staying in NY in that situation than in Minnesota or San Francisco. Was NY that fragmented in the 50's where the teams would consider moving across country before moving to another borough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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