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you latched on to these guys when they started getting good.

I've already mentioned that I started rooting for Boise State after the '99 Humanitarian Bowl, when they beat Louisville. Hardly when they started getting good.

Regardless, I won't talk about them as much anymore.

You must have read this from an Idaho Statesman writer posted yesterday. Its title..."Can Boise State really be left out of the BCS completely?"

He gives a scenario in which Boise State could be unbeaten and play in the Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl on January 9 in San Francisco. Granted, other bowl commitments may not be met from other conferences, but the WAC has given that game priority over their other tie-ins.

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I have a random question, something I've been thinking about for a bit. Say a team like Navy goes undefeated, does their status as an independent help their BCS chances, or hurt them? I ask because obviously, they've consistently been a solid team for the past few years, and I always wondered how far they could go if they broke out one year and went undefeated. The question could really go for any independent though, save of course Notre Dame because we've already seen them go to BCS bowls. Could an undefeated season vault a Navy or Army into the title game, or just a BCS bowl, or not even that?

In the first year of the BCS (1998) Tulane University went undefeated (12-0) and didn't get a chance to compete in a BCS game. They beat BYU in the Liberty Bowl. In that first BCS year, the bar was so high for a non-BCS conference school to qualify that Tulane didn't stand a chance because of its "soft" schedule. That has changed (with doors having been opened to the Cincinnatis, Utahs, TCUs Hawaiis and Boise States) thanks, in part, to Tulane President Scott Cowen's rampage against the BCS earlier this decade.....

Not for nothing but Cincinnati plays in The Big East. No "doors were opened" for them. They made a BCS bowl by winning their conference.

Oops-- mea culpa. I stand corrected, infrared-- shouldn't have listed them.

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I have a random question, something I've been thinking about for a bit. Say a team like Navy goes undefeated, does their status as an independent help their BCS chances, or hurt them? I ask because obviously, they've consistently been a solid team for the past few years, and I always wondered how far they could go if they broke out one year and went undefeated. The question could really go for any independent though, save of course Notre Dame because we've already seen them go to BCS bowls. Could an undefeated season vault a Navy or Army into the title game, or just a BCS bowl, or not even that?

In the first year of the BCS (1998) Tulane University went undefeated (12-0) and didn't get a chance to compete in a BCS game. They beat BYU in the Liberty Bowl. In that first BCS year, the bar was so high for a non-BCS conference school to qualify that Tulane didn't stand a chance because of its "soft" schedule. That has changed (with doors having been opened to the Cincinnatis, Utahs, TCUs Hawaiis and Boise States) thanks, in part, to Tulane President Scott Cowen's rampage against the BCS earlier this decade.....

Not for nothing but Cincinnati plays in The Big East. No "doors were opened" for them. They made a BCS bowl by winning their conference.

Oops-- mea culpa. I stand corrected, infrared-- shouldn't have listed them.

Also in 1998, K-State was #1 until losing to tAm in the Big XII title game. They were #3 in the final BCS poll and were not selected as an at-large team. At-large bids went to #4 tOSU and #8 Florida.

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Yup. And check out the Big XII in 2007.

1. Missouri is ranked #1 in the country after pounding the crap out of Kansas and winning the North Division.

2. Missouri loses to Oklahoma in the Big XII CCG. OU snags a Fiesta Bowl berth which they eventually lost to West Virgina.

3. KANSAS, not Missouri, receives an Orange Bowl bid, even though the Tigers have a tiebreaker win over the Jayhawks.

In summary, 12-1 Mizzou did not get a BCS bid, while 11-2 Oklahoma and 11-1 Kansas did.

It's like they say, you can't spell BCS without BS.

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Yup. And check out the Big XII in 2007.

1. Missouri is ranked #1 in the country after pounding the crap out of Kansas and winning the North Division.

2. Missouri loses to Oklahoma in the Big XII CCG. OU snags a Fiesta Bowl berth which they eventually lost to West Virgina.

3. KANSAS, not Missouri, receives an Orange Bowl bid, even though the Tigers have a tiebreaker win over the Jayhawks.

In summary, 12-1 Mizzou did not get a BCS bid, while 11-2 Oklahoma and 11-1 Kansas did.

It's like they say, you can't spell BCS without BS.

Missouri should be upset with the Orange Bowl reps that decided to give Kansas an invitation to their game...not the BCS.

Once all the conference champions are locked into a bowl (or are guaranteed a spot), the committees for the BCS bowls are free to select from any of the pool of qualified teams. They're under no obligation to give us "the best possible matchup" or "being fair". They're about selling tickets, filling up hotel rooms and restaurants and attractions, and making themselves and the city a ton of money.

I presume with Kansas' big following for their basketball team, they were the better option for the Orange Bowl than Missouri. If Missouri wanted to be a part of the BCS, they should have beaten Oklahoma for the Big XII title and guarantee themselves a spot.

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Yup. And check out the Big XII in 2007.

1. Missouri is ranked #1 in the country after pounding the crap out of Kansas and winning the North Division.

2. Missouri loses to Oklahoma in the Big XII CCG. OU snags a Fiesta Bowl berth which they eventually lost to West Virgina.

3. KANSAS, not Missouri, receives an Orange Bowl bid, even though the Tigers have a tiebreaker win over the Jayhawks.

In summary, 12-1 Mizzou did not get a BCS bid, while 11-2 Oklahoma and 11-1 Kansas did.

It's like they say, you can't spell BCS without BS.

Missouri should be upset with the Orange Bowl reps that decided to give Kansas an invitation to their game...not the BCS.

Once all the conference champions are locked into a bowl (or are guaranteed a spot), the committees for the BCS bowls are free to select from any of the pool of qualified teams. They're under no obligation to give us "the best possible matchup" or "being fair". They're about selling tickets, filling up hotel rooms and restaurants and attractions, and making themselves and the city a ton of money.

I presume with Kansas' big following for their basketball team, they were the better option for the Orange Bowl than Missouri. If Missouri wanted to be a part of the BCS, they should have beaten Oklahoma for the Big XII title and guarantee themselves a spot.

Since the Orange Bowl Committee is one of the bowls which may face an IRS probe, the fact that they had to commission a C-5 just for Mangino. did not help their expenses for that year.

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Yup. And check out the Big XII in 2007.

1. Missouri is ranked #1 in the country after pounding the crap out of Kansas and winning the North Division.

2. Missouri loses to Oklahoma in the Big XII CCG. OU snags a Fiesta Bowl berth which they eventually lost to West Virgina.

3. KANSAS, not Missouri, receives an Orange Bowl bid, even though the Tigers have a tiebreaker win over the Jayhawks.

In summary, 12-1 Mizzou did not get a BCS bid, while 11-2 Oklahoma and 11-1 Kansas did.

It's like they say, you can't spell BCS without BS.

Missouri should be upset with the Orange Bowl reps that decided to give Kansas an invitation to their game...not the BCS.

Once all the conference champions are locked into a bowl (or are guaranteed a spot), the committees for the BCS bowls are free to select from any of the pool of qualified teams. They're under no obligation to give us "the best possible matchup" or "being fair". They're about selling tickets, filling up hotel rooms and restaurants and attractions, and making themselves and the city a ton of money.

I presume with Kansas' big following for their basketball team, they were the better option for the Orange Bowl than Missouri. If Missouri wanted to be a part of the BCS, they should have beaten Oklahoma for the Big XII title and guarantee themselves a spot.

Since the Orange Bowl Committee is one of the bowls which may face an IRS probe, the fact that they had to commission a C-5 just for Mangino. did not help their expenses for that year.

And dfwabel with the fat joke.

*slow clap*

I assume the thought process was that Kansas has a larger fanbase than Missouri, especially since "Missouri does not have fans (or at least fans that travel)" has apparently become memetic among Bowl Organizers. Ultimately, this thought process backfired horribly, because Kansas basketball fans are just that and not Kansas fans.

/The Orange Bowl can't win. EVER.

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Wait, is this guy really saying that the NCAA shouldn't punish SEC teams? What the hell kind of hard stuff is he smoking?

Just ignore "him"...willmorris is not a human being. He's just a trollbot sent here to turn all of our brains to mush.

The more and more I read his posts, I'm pretty convinced the willmorris is just playing the role of "the heel". He's the Iron Sheik and we are all America during the Gulf War.

As for Auburn and the Newton stuff?

-No Investigation at Auburn

-Auburn says he is clear to play/ is playing him

and to top it off we have one of the most diligent/paranoid compliance departments in the nation. That happens when you've been through the NCAA ringer as many times as we have in the past. The administration is set up to make sure it NEVER happens again.

For an example, the Auburn basketball team recently booted a walk-on off the team because of his father, who is a former AAU coach (who was actually cleared of all wrong doing to the school). If they care that much about making sure basketball is on the up and up, i'd hope to God they'd keep a close eye on the bread and butter sport.

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Yup. And check out the Big XII in 2007.

1. Missouri is ranked #1 in the country after pounding the crap out of Kansas and winning the North Division.

2. Missouri loses to Oklahoma in the Big XII CCG. OU snags a Fiesta Bowl berth which they eventually lost to West Virgina.

3. KANSAS, not Missouri, receives an Orange Bowl bid, even though the Tigers have a tiebreaker win over the Jayhawks.

In summary, 12-1 Mizzou did not get a BCS bid, while 11-2 Oklahoma and 11-1 Kansas did.

It's like they say, you can't spell BCS without BS.

Missouri should be upset with the Orange Bowl reps that decided to give Kansas an invitation to their game...not the BCS.

Once all the conference champions are locked into a bowl (or are guaranteed a spot), the committees for the BCS bowls are free to select from any of the pool of qualified teams. They're under no obligation to give us "the best possible matchup" or "being fair". They're about selling tickets, filling up hotel rooms and restaurants and attractions, and making themselves and the city a ton of money.

I presume with Kansas' big following for their basketball team, they were the better option for the Orange Bowl than Missouri. If Missouri wanted to be a part of the BCS, they should have beaten Oklahoma for the Big XII title and guarantee themselves a spot.

Since the Orange Bowl Committee is one of the bowls which may face an IRS probe, the fact that they had to commission a C-5 just for Mangino. did not help their expenses for that year.

And dfwabel with the fat joke.

*slow clap*

I assume the thought process was that Kansas has a larger fanbase than Missouri, especially since "Missouri does not have fans (or at least fans that travel)" has apparently become memetic among Bowl Organizers. Ultimately, this thought process backfired horribly, because Kansas basketball fans are just that and not Kansas fans.

/The Orange Bowl can't win. EVER.

It was so cheap and it is even funnier with this!

mangino-v-obie.jpg

Ralph Friedgen has lost 100 lbs., what has Mangino done in his year off?

BTW, I think that ECU's Ruffin McNeil has gotten Ralph's lost pounds.

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Wait, is this guy really saying that the NCAA shouldn't punish SEC teams? What the hell kind of hard stuff is he smoking?

Just ignore "him"...willmorris is not a human being. He's just a trollbot sent here to turn all of our brains to mush.

Kevin, willmorris is just like thousands of listeners and a hundred callers who tout the greatness of SEC football on

The Paul Finebaum Network.

One can listen on the internet via that site, if you have XM Radio, or live within his syndication.

There is a FanPage with podcasts, bios of famous callers and the like. IMO, the show went from good show on college football news to a Tide-centric version of Howard Stern/O&A. Finebaum knows information on teams, but now just draws the "rumors/heat" out from callers who talk more about each other than about their teams.

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Thanks to everyone who replied to my question regarding Navy and Army, I'd directly quote it all but it'd be way too long :P haha but anyways, that is some very good input from you all. I would certainly hope that if Navy or Army were to ever go undefeated, that they'd have a chance at something big, whether that be (preferrably) the title game or a BCS bowl. I've always been a huge service academy fan (Navy, Army, and Air Force) simply because I respect the fact that those men on the field represent our country and will be protecting it after thier collegieate careers are over. It would be the best reward for those teams if they got to play and potentially win a BCS game, and would defend them tirelessly in thier campaigns to do so. I understand that that can't be the only reasoning for them, as they'd have to get there the same way that any other team could. But I would just hope that if they were to indeed go undefeated, that they could get the chance.

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Absolutely horrible game in Ann Arbor. The Illinois defense that let up 16 pts/game let Michigan run up 67 on them. The tackling was bad, the coverage was bad, it was just a bad game to watch. I don't even know what else to say about this game other than the defense on both sides was absolutely horrible. At least we get Minnesota next week.

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Absolutely horrible game in Ann Arbor. The Illinois defense that let up 16 pts/game let Michigan run up 67 on them. The tackling was bad, the coverage was bad, it was just a bad game to watch. I don't even know what else to say about this game other than the defense on both sides was absolutely horrible. At least we get Minnesota next week.

Dude, that game alone brought the average up 4-5 points.

Also, "We are Indiana and that is how we roll." :rolleyes:<_<

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Absolutely horrible game in Ann Arbor. The Illinois defense that let up 16 pts/game let Michigan run up 67 on them. The tackling was bad, the coverage was bad, it was just a bad game to watch. I don't even know what else to say about this game other than the defense on both sides was absolutely horrible. At least we get Minnesota next week.

Aww. Kick the couch, but not a woman. Zook is 26-43 for his Illinois career, why think he is better?

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I just think it's amazing that I walked out to get a haircut when it was 38-31 Michigan, came back and it was 67-65 F-3OT, and I was not surprised to see that this was the end result of the game. Atrocious defensive effort from both teams, but man, what a light show. This will definitely be one to watch on ESPN3 again.

EDIT: Wow. Never thought TCU would get out to a 20-0 start on Utah AT UTAH.

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