Island_Style Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 "The winged wheel logo was actually borrowed from a cycling club in Montreal." Says Bob Duff in his Detroit Red Wings article in Total Hockey: The Official Encyclopedia of the National Hockey LeagueThe team Detroit took the logo from wasn't the originators. They took it from the cycling club.And I guess it is a bike wheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 "The winged wheel logo was actually borrowed from a cycling club in Montreal." Says Bob Duff in his Detroit Red Wings article in Total Hockey: The Official Encyclopedia of the National Hockey LeagueThe team Detroit took the logo from wasn't the originators. They took it from the cycling club.And I guess it is a bike wheel.The club wasn't a cycling club. It was an athletic club. Cycling and hockey were each different aspects of the club. The hockey team was the first team to win the Stanley Cup. James Norris, who bought the Detroit Falcons and renamed them the Red Wings, played for them in 1898. So that's why he used a variation of their logo for the Wings. To honour the legacy and history of his former team.They didn't just see a random athletic club logo and go "let's use that!" Quote PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illwauk Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 "The winged wheel logo was actually borrowed from a cycling club in Montreal." Says Bob Duff in his Detroit Red Wings article in Total Hockey: The Official Encyclopedia of the National Hockey LeagueThe team Detroit took the logo from wasn't the originators. They took it from the cycling club.And I guess it is a bike wheel.That cycling club WAS Montreal AAA... they called themselves an ATHLETIC association because they played more than one sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Island_Style Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 I understand. I still don't like it. Who else did that? The logo still sucks. My point, history makes things jaded."The winged wheel logo was actually borrowed from a cycling club in Montreal." Says Bob Duff in his Detroit Red Wings article in Total Hockey: The Official Encyclopedia of the National Hockey LeagueThe team Detroit took the logo from wasn't the originators. They took it from the cycling club.And I guess it is a bike wheel.That cycling club WAS Montreal AAA... they called themselves an ATHLETIC association because they played more than one sport.But auto racing wasn't part of that. My point, it isn't a car wheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 I understand. I still don't like it. Who else did that? The logo still sucks. My point, history makes things jaded.No one's begrudging you for simply not liking it. It's that your stated reasons came off as misinformed. Had you just said "I don't like the Red Wings' logo no one would have cared."The winged wheel logo was actually borrowed from a cycling club in Montreal." Says Bob Duff in his Detroit Red Wings article in Total Hockey: The Official Encyclopedia of the National Hockey LeagueThe team Detroit took the logo from wasn't the originators. They took it from the cycling club.And I guess it is a bike wheel.That cycling club WAS Montreal AAA... they called themselves an ATHLETIC association because they played more than one sport.But auto racing wasn't part of that. My point, it isn't a car wheel.I don't think the Red Wings ever claimed it was a car wheel. The whole "it's a car wheel/it represents the auto industry" thing probably came from people who didn't know where the logo came from and were trying to justify it to themselves. It's just an homage to one of hockey's earliest powerhouse teams. Quote PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Island_Style Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 I know, Cap. Proving it isn't a car wheel was fueled by this post.Car wheels can have spokes too.I understand they are paying homage but that is what I don't like about it. Be your own thing. Of course I realize my opinion on this in unpopular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Well as important as the Montreal AAA hockey team was to hockey history I think the Red Wings have made the winged wheel logo their own thing I hated the Rangers' "Lady Liberty" sweaters and really don't understand the folks who want to see them replace one of the most classic sweaters in the history of hockey. Most New Yorkers have only visited the statue once, on a middle-school field trip... how is that a good symbol for a team representing New York City?Not to mention it technically sits in NJ's waters.From the National Park Service:Is the Statue in New York or New Jersey?The Statue of Liberty is on Liberty Island, federal property administered by the National Park Service, located within the territorial jurisdiction of the State of New York.You didnt contradict anything I said above. It still sits in NJ's waters even though NY has jurisdiction over the Island.Jurisdiction trumps territory. The US embassy in London's in the UK's territory but it's still American land.It's more or less an easement granted to the given country. And I didnt say anything trumped anything. Stop devolving this further into semantic stupidity.It's not semantics. If a government has jurisdiction over a piece of land, then that land is theirs. Therefore the Statue of Liberty is in New York because the land it's on falls under the State of New York's jurisdiction. Quote PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRed618 Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 I like the Dolphin's new logo. I think it's a good evolution of the Dolphin-and-Sun and when I read the article about it, only to see most of the comments basically say BOOHOOHOONOTMUHDOLPHINZ!!11!, I got sick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportstar1212 Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 I think the Kings look better without the purple in their color scheme. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianLion Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 It's not semantics. If a government has jurisdiction over a piece of land, then that land is theirs. Therefore the Statue of Liberty is in New York because the land it's on falls under the State of New York's jurisdiction.Oh boy. All I said was Liberty Island was in NJ's waterway, I didnt say who owned what.....Seriously, what do I need to do to get out of this argument? Can I send you some money or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 It's not semantics. If a government has jurisdiction over a piece of land, then that land is theirs. Therefore the Statue of Liberty is in New York because the land it's on falls under the State of New York's jurisdiction.Oh boy. All I said was Liberty Island was in NJ's waterway, I didnt say who owned what.....Seriously, what do I need to do to get out of this argument? Can I send you some money or something?You brought it up buddy. Quote PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_tattoos Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 I always thought the trim on the Chicao Bulls red uniforms looked out of placeJust seems like white is supposed to be simply an accent color on the uni given that the font/numbers are black with white trim. I always thought the trim pattern would look better if it were black-white-red-white-black instead of white-black-red-black-white. Quote Hotter Than July > Thriller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeFrank Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Team names on the back of shorts aren't the end of the freaking world. People act like it's some sort of assault on human decency when in reality it's in the arch of the back and you can't even see it most of the time. Quote concepts: washington football (2017) ... nfl (2013) ... yikes potd 10/20/12 origin story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_Star Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 And hate these(Rams)Why? I like the Ram's look. I wish they get the helmets right.I will show you which Ram's look really sucks the most.^ That one sucks the most. The nylon type khaki color pants with navy blue looks so dead, I don't even watch the Rams games much anymore because of this dreaded look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrysleraspen08 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 I don't know if this is considered an unpopular opinion or not, but I like most teams 90's logos better then their current logos. Quote Sporting Venue Count (for games): OHL: 19 (28 Total)- 770 games (after 18-19), MLB: 13 (15 Total), NHL: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatic Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 I think the addition of orange to the Sharks colour scheme was genius. The uniforms are still predominantly Teal and Black, but the little bit of orange adds "pop" and contrast, and gives it more of a California feel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BelfourThibault Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 And hate these(Rams)Why? I like the Ram's look. I wish they get the helmets right.I will show you which Ram's look really sucks the most.^ That one sucks the most. The nylon type khaki color pants with navy blue looks so dead, I don't even watch the Rams games much anymore because of this dreaded look.I like those pants 100000x more than the blue pants, and I don't really like the white pants either.You really stopped watching a team just because of the uniforms? I buy Sunday Ticket every year just to be able to watch the Rams, so I would've understood if you'd have said their play over the past decade has turned you off. But the unis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonny Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Here's an unpopular one for you. I think the brick and sand identity for the Diamondbacks is truckloads better than their teal and purple unis 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatic Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Here's an unpopular one for you. I think the brick and sand identity for the Diamondbacks is truckloads better than their teal and purple unisI absolutely agree with you on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zpqmaowl Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 I like both the Sedona Red/Sonoran Sand and the Purple/Arizona Turquoise schemes equally. 1 Quote the worst helmets design to me is the Jacksonville jaguars hamlets from 1995 to 2012 because you can't see the logo vary wall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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