ZapRowsdower8 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 I'm probably really late to the party on this one, but was the Rays' plaid gear from last year a lead up to the playoff thing only? It seemed pretty popular around here and I don't believe they have broken it out this season, correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tubby34 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 That's the thing - what are the rules? What do you grant exceptions for? Who judges which events that result in life-loss are cap-altering worthy and which aren't?In my opinion if the Astros can wear green earth day caps and the rays a plaid billed cap ( both made my new era) then the mets should have been able to wear the services caps. It comes down to what can and can't be sold at the end of the day, and it makes me dislike selish selig even more.Edit: funny my phones auto correct tried to fix selig to selling . Lol, selling the games soul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erlovepuck Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 A horrific tragedy? Yes.The owner's dog died? No.It shouldn't be hard to determine what is and isn't reasonable. Then again, Bud Selig is still commissioner.OKC bombing? 9/11? I-35? Katrina? Irene? DC Sniper? Some yahoo shoots up the local supermarket? It's not always as cut-and-dried as owners dog vs natural disaster.Ok and what is the harm if a team decides to wear some type of special cap after any of those events? Let the team decides what warrants that type of tribute or doesn't. The term "uniform" means for a team to all be dressed the same, not the entire league. Most significantly in this debate is that 10 years ago in the aftermath of 9/11 they had all teams wear flag patches on their caps and uniforms. Guess what, the Mets went ahead and wore the first responder caps on the field anyway even though no one else did and gasp the whole league wasn't uniform. It didn't lead to an outbreak of teams wearing all kinds of unofficial caps on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powersurge Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 A horrific tragedy? Yes.The owner's dog died? No.It shouldn't be hard to determine what is and isn't reasonable. Then again, Bud Selig is still commissioner.OKC bombing? 9/11? I-35? Katrina? Irene? DC Sniper? Some yahoo shoots up the local supermarket? It's not always as cut-and-dried as owners dog vs natural disaster.Ok and what is the harm if a team decides to wear some type of special cap after any of those events? Let the team decides what warrants that type of tribute or doesn't. The term "uniform" means for a team to all be dressed the same, not the entire league. Most significantly in this debate is that 10 years ago in the aftermath of 9/11 they had all teams wear flag patches on their caps and uniforms. Guess what, the Mets went ahead and wore the first responder caps on the field anyway even though no one else did and gasp the whole league wasn't uniform. It didn't lead to an outbreak of teams wearing all kinds of unofficial caps on the field.while I agree with you on the sentiment behind WHY they would do something like that I have to believe that if you don't impose some uniformity and control over what's being worn then you would be letting the inmates run the asylum. I know its the unpopular decision to make but I can understand why they did it. I think thats ultimately what BBTV is getting at in his post, but I could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Exactly. Players are the last people who should be allowed to decide what they wear on the field. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erlovepuck Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 A horrific tragedy? Yes.The owner's dog died? No.It shouldn't be hard to determine what is and isn't reasonable. Then again, Bud Selig is still commissioner.OKC bombing? 9/11? I-35? Katrina? Irene? DC Sniper? Some yahoo shoots up the local supermarket? It's not always as cut-and-dried as owners dog vs natural disaster.Ok and what is the harm if a team decides to wear some type of special cap after any of those events? Let the team decides what warrants that type of tribute or doesn't. The term "uniform" means for a team to all be dressed the same, not the entire league. Most significantly in this debate is that 10 years ago in the aftermath of 9/11 they had all teams wear flag patches on their caps and uniforms. Guess what, the Mets went ahead and wore the first responder caps on the field anyway even though no one else did and gasp the whole league wasn't uniform. It didn't lead to an outbreak of teams wearing all kinds of unofficial caps on the field.while I agree with you on the sentiment behind WHY they would do something like that I have to believe that if you don't impose some uniformity and control over what's being worn then you would be letting the inmates run the asylum. I know its the unpopular decision to make but I can understand why they did it. I think thats ultimately what BBTV is getting at in his post, but I could be wrong.I think the inmates running the asylum is more akin to the power New Era and Majestic have over MLB's uniforms. They come up with new BP jerseys, caps and jackets every few years which include features and silly striping solely there to make them different than the previous version hoping people will buy the newest thing. They have new stars and stripes hats where for years they have had teams wearing caps that look completely mismatched with the uniforms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 I'll agree with you on the Stars & Stripes caps. Those have always been abominations, partly for the same reason that the Mets' grab-bag was visually offensive.Can't agree about the BP gear and assorted merchandise, though. Planned obsolescence is just one of capitalism's less-attractive features. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bipolarbear Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 What was with those brown caps the Pirates wore today??http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/games/310914123/gallery;_ylt=AkwgIkfDtGrhC.Ob.strhmq4u7YF#photoViewer=urn:newsml:sports.yahoo,getty:20050301:mlb,photo,314044b9b5f37993e56fd9d51dbb248b-getty-124952922:1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GriffinM6 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 What was with those brown caps the Pirates wore today??http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/games/310914123/gallery;_ylt=AkwgIkfDtGrhC.Ob.strhmq4u7YF#photoViewer=urn:newsml:sports.yahoo,getty:20050301:mlb,photo,314044b9b5f37993e56fd9d51dbb248b-getty-124952922:1It's honey mustard yellow, and they're the ahts they wore in the 60's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bipolarbear Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 With the current jersey, it looks odd and makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 With the current jersey, it looks odd and makes no sense.I think it would look great if it was regular yellow instead of the brownish shade that they sported today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gEO 3b 4 Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 What was with those brown caps the Pirates wore today??http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/games/310914123/gallery;_ylt=AkwgIkfDtGrhC.Ob.strhmq4u7YF#photoViewer=urn:newsml:sports.yahoo,getty:20050301:mlb,photo,314044b9b5f37993e56fd9d51dbb248b-getty-124952922:1It's honey mustard yellow, and they're the ahts they wore in the 60's.I've seen those in stores for a while now, but I just thought they were fashion throwbacks or something, I didn't realize the Bucs would be wearing them on-field (I'm not positive, but I think when I saw them at Lids they had the New Era flag logo on the side, but I could be mistaken, the left panel may have been bare which obviously is an indication of an authentic on-field cap). I think they look stupid with the current set (unless they were wearing throwback jerseys today, I couldn't tell by that pic. All you can see is the neck piping and I can't recall off the top of my head if the 60's set had piping like that, although I highly doubt it). Is this the first time they've worn them all year? I'm a Yankee fan but I follow the Pirates pretty closely and I haven't seen them before, but I could have missed them. I agree with Fox though, I think a regular yellow cap would look good as an alt. With a black brim and the outline that they have on the current black alt caps that they introduced with the current set.In my opinion if the Astros can wear green earth day caps and the rays a plaid billed cap ( both made my new era) then the mets should have been able to wear the services caps. I agree wholeheartedly. The funny thing too is that I remember back after 9/11 and into 2002 New Era made and sold NYPD, FDNY, and PAPD caps on their website. Granted, I don't believe they were 59fifty's, but nevertheless they were produced by New Era, so I don't think it should have been a problem if they used those ones.Exactly. Players are the last people who should be allowed to decide what they wear on the field.Yeah but this is a joke, all they wanted to do was pay tribute to the heroes who gave their lives on 9/11. Believe me, I understand the licensing issues behind it and why MLB had a problem, but in this instance it was a freaking joke. Let them pay tribute if they want, that would have been the right thing. This is just another example of corporate greed. It's just unfortunate that in this situation it had to overshadow the remembrance of 9/11. In my opinion, it was a heartless display on New Era's part; and MLB for that matter for not standing up to New Era, who I'm sure were the ones who really objected to the idea to begin with. I even heard that they threatened a lawsuit against LB (or the Mets, not sure) if the Mets wore the first responder hats and not the on-field flag caps. I don't know how true that is, I haven't read up on it, I just heard it in conversation among a group of people. And the worst part to me is that I'm a New Era junkie and always have been. I have an enormous collection of 5950's, but I lost so much respect for New Era after this incident that it might be a few months until my collection grows again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gEO 3b 4 Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Also, I just came across this picture of John Axford. I don't know when these were worn by the Brewers or what they were are (throwback, negro league, etc). Can anyone shed some light for me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dahatman Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Also, I just came across this picture of John Axford. I don't know when these were worn by the Brewers or what they were are (throwback, negro league, etc). Can anyone shed some light for me?Those are Negro League - Milwaukee Bears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 1923, if memory serves. And damn, do I wish I had one or twelve of those caps. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouj Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 With the current jersey, it looks odd and makes no sense.Especially since they have the jerseys to match. They wore the 1970's set earlier in the year, hence the reasont hey had the hats to begin with. I thought the TV at the gym had gone haywire when I saw the Pirates wearing the 1970 hats & the current uniforms. Go Astros!Go Texans!Go Rockets!Go Javelinas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anubis2051 Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 Mariano Rivera all-time saves leader logo merch - does anyone have a clean copy of the logo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBubba Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 ^That bobblehead screams "pedo rapist". Nobody cares about your humungous-big signature. PotD: 29/1/12   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodboy13 Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 Between Rivera and Jeter, this has been a banner year for fleecing Yankee fans. On 1/25/2013 at 1:53 PM, 'Atom said: For all the bird de lis haters I think the bird de lis isnt supposed to be a pelican and a fleur de lis I think its just a fleur de lis with a pelicans head. Thats what it looks like to me. Also the flair around the tip of the beak is just flair that fleur de lis have sometimes source I am from NOLA. PotD: 10/19/07, 08/25/08, 07/22/10, 08/13/10, 04/15/11, 05/19/11, 01/02/12, and 01/05/12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 I'm not familiar with how the Yankees honor their retired numbers, but do they currently acknowledge Jackie Robinson's league-wide 42 retirement? Would they have two 42s when Rivera retires? "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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