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Just a sort of out-of-left-field question since I couldn't find an answer:

When does Majestic's exclusivity contract w/ MLB run out?

They just re-upped, so no time soon.

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Granted I'm not from that area, but do people out there really refer to them as "The Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim" in normal conversation? You could basically ignore that long name, and you wouldn't even notice it. It doesn't seem to be forced in the fans' faces.

Yeah no one around here (at least in OC, and I doubt they'd say it in LA) says LA Angels of Anaheim.

It's just the Angels. No reference to either city really. In the ballpark, on tickets, on all merchandise (minus the 60's throwbacks), no reference to LA (i.e. "Please welcome to the field... Your Angels!") Hell, you'll hear more people slip up and call them the California or Anaheim Angels than you will Los Angeles Angels.

Really the only time it's ever brought up is when someone wants to argue about it or make a deal about it.

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Well in all fairness, no one in any city or area refers to their team as the city/nickname. When I'm talking to other people around here, I don't say, "Hey did you watch the St. Louis last night?" or "Are you a St. Louis Cardinals fan?", it's always just Cardinals. That's just how most sports fans talk to each other. They never say the full name, usually just the nickname.

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I used to work at a Lids which sold mostly Angels gear, but the sales numbers were just dreadful due to the lack of city branding. Stuff that said San Diego Padres, Los Angeles Dodgers, and other team gear that include the city name sold extremely well with people who werent necessarily fans because people liked to represent a specific city. All of the Angels gear just read The Angels and didn't move very well because if that. I personally think the Angels should've kept the Anaheim moniker, but if they must switch to Los Angeles then so be it. Either way, they have to do something because IMO, it hurts their brand tremendously.

With the shaky home status of the A's and the name issues with the Angels, I've always been in favor if them both changing their names to the Angels of Southern California and the Athletics of Northern California. It'd solve some of the logistical issues, widen the fanbase, and wouldn't infringe on the other California teams because they're in a different league. I know most won't buy this argument, but with as much of a clusterfluff both of their situations are, it's not the worst idea. I mean not only could we have had the LAAoA, we could've been stuck with the Oakland Athletics of Freemont as well :S

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Well in all fairness, no one in any city or area refers to their team as the city/nickname. When I'm talking to other people around here, I don't say, "Hey did you watch the St. Louis last night?" or "Are you a St. Louis Cardinals fan?", it's always just Cardinals. That's just how most sports fans talk to each other. They never say the full name, usually just the nickname.

Well, I don't totally agree with that. I regularly hear fans here refer to the Red Sox as "Boston", the Rays as "Tampa Bay," etc. I think the point is that even with the Angels' formal long name, no one really refers to them as "Los Angeles of Anaheim" or even "Anaheim" or "Los Angeles" (since there already is another LA team).

So it should basically be a non-issue to fans. It's a technicality/formality that really only affects the people at the top of the organization who deal with the legal stuff... which is really why the issue even exists to begin with.

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With the shaky home status of the A's and the name issues with the Angels, I've always been in favor if them both changing their names to the Angels of Southern California and the Athletics of Northern California. It'd solve some of the logistical issues, widen the fanbase, and wouldn't infringe on the other California teams because they're in a different league. I know most won't buy this argument, but with as much of a clusterfluff both of their situations are, it's not the worst idea.

It's only a cluster because the City of Anaheim has an inferiority complex.

Your solution wouldn't solve the basic problem - the naming rights agreement requires "Anaheim" to be in there somewhere.

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Growing up in Southern California my entire life and still living here, I know pretty much everybody I know still associates the Angels with Anaheim. All of my baseball buddies refer to them as either the Halos, Anaheim or the Angels. It's still ridiculous that they're called the LA Angels of Anaheim. It would be like renaming the Padres the Anaheim Padres of San Diego or the Athletics the San Francisco Athletics of Oakland.

Anaheim....Anaheim...they are from Anaheim, they play in Anaheim and they always will be Anaheim. I don't think it's a bad thing, either. Quite the contrary, the Angels should be proud of where they play. I always thought it was a slap in the face to people who live in Orange County and to the Halo fans.

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Growing up in Southern California my entire life and still living here, I know pretty much everybody I know still associates the Angels with Anaheim. All of my baseball buddies refer to them as either the Halos, Anaheim or the Angels. It's still ridiculous that they're called the LA Angels of Anaheim. It would be like renaming the Padres the Anaheim Padres of San Diego or the Athletics the San Francisco Athletics of Oakland.

Anaheim....Anaheim...they are from Anaheim, they play in Anaheim and they always will be Anaheim. I don't think it's a bad thing, either. Quite the contrary, the Angels should be proud of where they play. I always thought it was a slap in the face to people who live in Orange County and to the Halo fans.

Anaheim is part of the greater Los Angeles metropolitan area. Committing to the Los Angeles moniker would be expressing pride in where they play. There's pride to be had in representing the second largest city in the United States. Not so much in representing a suburb of that city though.

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Growing up in Southern California my entire life and still living here, I know pretty much everybody I know still associates the Angels with Anaheim. All of my baseball buddies refer to them as either the Halos, Anaheim or the Angels. It's still ridiculous that they're called the LA Angels of Anaheim. It would be like renaming the Padres the Anaheim Padres of San Diego or the Athletics the San Francisco Athletics of Oakland.

Anaheim....Anaheim...they are from Anaheim, they play in Anaheim and they always will be Anaheim. I don't think it's a bad thing, either. Quite the contrary, the Angels should be proud of where they play. I always thought it was a slap in the face to people who live in Orange County and to the Halo fans.

I see what you're saying, but I feel like pretty much everyone over 25 and under 15 doesn't consider "Anaheim Angels" to be such an ingrained name. I know they won a World Series with that name, but I still don't think 8 years is long enough to be a solid unchangeable identity.

It's interesting that your friends refer to them as "Anaheim" though, I honestly didn't think anyone did that. I guess I know, now.

But I still think that most MLB fans consider the Angels to be an LA team, though. A lot of teams technically don't play in the cities that are in their names. There's nothing wrong with that.

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Cumulatively, they've been the Los Angeles Angels for more years than they've been the Anaheim Angels now. 9+ as LA, 8 as Anaheim, the rest as California (which was stupid and should've been nixed before they ever took the field as such).

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I'm a longtime Angels fan and I too thought it was silly to call them Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim. LA is a very large and spread out city which goes as far north as San Fernando, Sylmar, and Mission Hills to the north. It's a bit of a haul driving from there down to Anaheim. They're not even in the same County.

Had they kept the 'Los Angeles' when Anaheim Stadium was built, it probably wouldn't be that big of a deal, just as when the LA Rams moved to Anaheim and kept the 'LA'

When AL teams fly to the area to play the Angels they don't fly to LAX, they fly into the Orange County (John Wayne) Airport.

There's 5 baseball teams in California, so I thought when they changed the name from California to Anaheim it made alot of sense. I understand the Vikings being called Minnesota, they're the only NFL team in the State, and the Jazz being called Utah. Never had a problem with the Jets & Giants keeping the New York. Thought it was odd when the Senators moved the 2nd time, but with a nickname like 'Rangers' it fits alot better with Texas than it does had they called them Dallas.

The LA Angels being called 'LA' .... It's grown on me now, they may as well go full board and just drop the 'of Anaheim' part ....

What's next, the San Francisco Sharks of San Jose?

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Anaheim is part of the greater Los Angeles metropolitan area. Committing to the Los Angeles moniker would be expressing pride in where they play. There's pride to be had in representing the second largest city in the United States. Not so much in representing a suburb of that city though.

The greater Metropolitan area of LA is way bigger than that. Basically LA stretches from Ventura county, LA County, Riverside, San Bernardino and Orange County. But all of those areas are nothing alike and have their own unique identities. Not to mention the fact there are as far apart as 125 miles from each other. So what you said is actually way, way off.

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"San Francisco Sharks" has a terrific cadence and would represent an entire world-class metropolis rather than an office park with a mayor. Biggest upgrade they could make short of actually rolling four lines for once.

Except that most of the Sharks fans are from the south bay.

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With the shaky home status of the A's and the name issues with the Angels, I've always been in favor if them both changing their names to the Angels of Southern California and the Athletics of Northern California. It'd solve some of the logistical issues, widen the fanbase, and wouldn't infringe on the other California teams because they're in a different league. I know most won't buy this argument, but with as much of a clusterfluff both of their situations are, it's not the worst idea.

It's only a cluster because the City of Anaheim has an inferiority complex.

Your solution wouldn't solve the basic problem - the naming rights agreement requires "Anaheim" to be in there somewhere.

Actually you are wrong about Anaheim having an inferiority complex, it's actually quite the opposite. Anaheim actually brands itself, and so the reason behind the sports teams having the Anaheim name is to brand them as part of Anaheim. It's the same thing as the league's putting their logo on the jerseys of the teams, they are part of the larger brand of the team. Whether you agree or disagree with the city branding itself or whether the branding has been done properly or well, is another story. Yet, to say that Anaheim has an inferiority complex, shows you've never lived in the city or know anything about the city. And the fact of the matter is, that Anaheim has never had an inferiority complex as 99% of the residents know that they are living in quite possibly one of the most popular places in the country and the world to live. You go outside this country and you ask people to name places in the United States, of course New York and Los Angeles are going to be probably #1 & #2, but within the top 10 if not 5 is going to be Disneyland which is in Anaheim and actually is Anaheim. None of the residents nor city leaders walk around feeling like another city is better than them. The whole thing with Anaheim being in the Angels name was 100% branding.

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