BBTV Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 My rule of thumb is that if the nickname includes a modifier, it's minor league. Just off of the top of my head, I can't think of any exceptions to this rule. I'm not sure about the Maple Leafs - is the actual leaf called a "Maple Leaf", or is maple an adjective? I guess it would get grandfathered in because it's so old, but if the team was named today, we'd probably laugh at that name. "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 "Red Sox" would break the rule, since red is modifying sock, but you'll notice that any other ___ Sox team beyond Red and White sounds really minor league, so you may be on to something. The best example of your rule is "Ice ____." ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 And even though said movie wasn't very good...HEY! Bite your tongue! The first one was your average 90s kids sports movie. Nothing great, or even above average, but it wasn't terrible, considering the intended audience. D2, however, was a steaming pile of cinematic Team USA ditches their uniforms for Mighty Ducks unis? Really? And they switch the goalie and sniper to give the sniper a clear shot, AND IT WORKS? There's suspension of disbelief and then there's insulting the intelligence of everyone who's ever played or seen a minuet of hockey in their life. And since when did Iceland become a hockey powerhouse? D3 was pretty much the first one in prep school, only with more stupid moments. Really though, it's not the fact that they named the team after movies I don't like that's my problem. It's that they're named after movies, period.My rule of thumb is that if the nickname includes a modifier, it's minor league. Just off of the top of my head, I can't think of any exceptions to this rule. I'm not sure about the Maple Leafs - is the actual leaf called a "Maple Leaf", or is maple an adjective? I guess it would get grandfathered in because it's so old, but if the team was named today, we'd probably laugh at that name.I'm not sure about Maple Leafs. I would think it wouldn't count because without it the name could refer to any kind of leaf, when in fact it's specifically suppose to be a maple leaf. PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreamSoda Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 My rule of thumb is that if the nickname includes a modifier, it's minor league. Just off of the top of my head, I can't think of any exceptions to this rule. I'm not sure about the Maple Leafs - is the actual leaf called a "Maple Leaf", or is maple an adjective? I guess it would get grandfathered in because it's so old, but if the team was named today, we'd probably laugh at that name."Maple Leaf" is a noun describing an object. Just as the Rocky Mountains is a Noun, not an adjective describing a noun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreamSoda Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 I'm not sure about Maple Leafs. I would think it wouldn't count because without it the name could refer to any kind of leaf, when in fact it's specifically suppose to be a maple leaf.Making Maple Leaf a proper noun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee. Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Wrong. A leaf is a leaf. The tree or plant determines what kind of leaf it is, so a maple (adj) tree (noun) gives us a maple (adj) leaf (noun). In other words, a maple leaf is just a leaf from a maple tree. Dig?The Rocky Mountains are such because although they are rocky, and mountains, that can be said of any mountain range; however, since someone somewhere named them the Rocky Mountains (probably for famed boxer and statue Rocky Balboa, who grew up a mere 3000 miles away from them), they are their own proper noun. Welcome to DrunjFlix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Wrong. A leaf is a leaf. The tree or plant determines what kind of leaf it is, so a maple (adj) tree (noun) gives us a maple (adj) leaf (noun). In other words, a maple leaf is just a leaf from a maple tree. Dig?The Rocky Mountains are such because although they are rocky, and mountains, that can be said of any mountain range; however, since someone somewhere named them the Rocky Mountains (probably for famed boxer and statue Rocky Balboa, who grew up a mere 3000 miles away from them), they are their own proper noun.http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mapleMaple; noun PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreamSoda Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Wrong. A leaf is a leaf. The tree or plant determines what kind of leaf it is, so a maple (adj) tree (noun) gives us a maple (adj) leaf (noun). In other words, a maple leaf is just a leaf from a maple tree. Dig?HA! Do you honestly believe that? I feel sorry for you.Maple Leaf is a proper noun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uniguy22 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Aren't the Maple Leafs named after a WW1 canadian fighting unit? Not an actual leaf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddball Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 As I've read through this thread one thing stands out loud and clear. If it's not blue and white, doesn't have that 5,000 point leaf on it and it's west of Toronto, Ice Cap hates it. Not at all, but you keep on being you sparky.I tried to be you for Halloween, Ice Cap. I found a Maple Leafs jersey, painted myself all blue and went out trick or treating. I kept getting the same reaction, "What are you Jack Frost? Christmas ain't for another friggin' two months! Get outta here!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toews19 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Switch around the shoulder patch and the primary logo and it would look awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Wrong. A leaf is a leaf. The tree or plant determines what kind of leaf it is, so a maple (adj) tree (noun) gives us a maple (adj) leaf (noun). In other words, a maple leaf is just a leaf from a maple tree. Dig?HA! Do you honestly believe that? I feel sorry for you.But he's right. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jezus_Ghoti Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 What are you guys talking about?Maple leaf is a noun. Maple is not an adjective in this case. It is part of the noun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreamSoda Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 What are you guys talking about?Maple leaf is a noun. Maple is not an adjective in this case. It is part of the noun.apparently that is a harder concept to grasp than I imagined... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jezus_Ghoti Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 It might help if you weren't a d*ck about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreamSoda Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Wrong. A leaf is a leaf. The tree or plant determines what kind of leaf it is, so a maple (adj) tree (noun) gives us a maple (adj) leaf (noun). In other words, a maple leaf is just a leaf from a maple tree. Dig?HA! Do you honestly believe that? I feel sorry for you.But he's right.Interesting addition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreamSoda Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 It might help if you weren't a d*ck about it.I am being a dick?I simply stated it was a proper noun and the the other dude claimed it was wrong and used backwards logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Wrong. A leaf is a leaf. The tree or plant determines what kind of leaf it is, so a maple (adj) tree (noun) gives us a maple (adj) leaf (noun). In other words, a maple leaf is just a leaf from a maple tree. Dig?HA! Do you honestly believe that? I feel sorry for you.But he's right.Except that he's wrong. This isn't a debatable point. "Maple Leaf" is in and of itself a noun. Maple is part of that noun, not an adjective. In fact maple isn't considered an adjective at all under any circumstances. PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Okay. I was taught that in, say, the sentence "I like maple syrup," "maple" is the adjective for the noun "syrup," distinguishing it from corn syrup or whatever. Nouns can be used as adjectives all the time. In the same sense, "maple" would modify "leaf," like "tin" modifies "can." ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Okay. I was taught that in, say, the sentence "I like maple syrup," "maple" is the adjective for the noun "syrup," distinguishing it from corn syrup or whatever. Nouns can be used as adjectives all the time. In the same sense, "maple" would modify "leaf," like "tin" modifies "can."I don't know what to say other then, in the example you're using, you're just wrong. "Maple leaf" is a proper noun. There's not much to go into other then the fact that it, well, a noun. PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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