ARTnSocal Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Agree with the last poster .... both should leave their uniforms as is ... no need to change.If Wisconsin were to change their red jersey to the darker version of red on their 'W' helmet logo, then we'd have a post created on here complaining that they look too much like Indiana.Besides, if you can have two 'BULLDOGS' in the SEC then I don't see a problem with 2 teams from the Big 10 or whatever they're gonna call it having similar looking uniforms/colors ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sport Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Wisconsin-Nebraska games will look like this This is really only going to be a problem for the less observant and the impatient such as my dad who is constantly asking me where games are being played. He could look at any one of the many signs like sideline wall graphics, jersey color, midfield logo, endzone scripts, weather (late in the season such as when Miami goes to Buffalo), stadium shots, or even which team comes first in the scorebug graphic. It literally takes less than a second for me to figure out which team is which and who's playing at home, but he chooses to ask before figuring it out for himself. I guess that's why I post here and he doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubsFanBudMan Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Plus, one is a Leader and one is a Legend, so they won't play every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Agree with the last poster .... both should leave their uniforms as is ... no need to change.If Wisconsin were to change their red jersey to the darker version of red on their 'W' helmet logo, then we'd have a post created on here complaining that they look too much like Indiana.Besides, if you can have two 'BULLDOGS' in the SEC then I don't see a problem with 2 teams from the Big 10 or whatever they're gonna call it having similar looking uniforms/colors ...Could that please happen. I'd like to delude myself into thinking Indiana is now magically good at football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 If the Insight Bowl had no issue with it, why should a Nebraska/Wisconsin matchup? The Mizzou old gold does not make that much of a difference in a game for a QB. The same could be said for the annual Navy/Notre Dame game as well. They are smart enough to know who plays for whom. Don't underestimate the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFoA Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 If the Insight Bowl had no issue with it, why should a Nebraska/Wisconsin matchup? The Mizzou old gold does not make that much of a difference in a game for a QB. The same could be said for the annual Navy/Notre Dame game as well. They are smart enough to know who plays for whom. Don't underestimate the players. The Insight Bowl had no issue because Iowa looks like the Steelers & Missouri looks like the Steelers in the year 3011. They had the same colors, but radically different uniforms. Nebraska & Wisconsin have the same colors & basically the same uniforms. That is an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 If the Insight Bowl had no issue with it, why should a Nebraska/Wisconsin matchup? The Mizzou old gold does not make that much of a difference in a game for a QB. The same could be said for the annual Navy/Notre Dame game as well. They are smart enough to know who plays for whom. Don't underestimate the players. The Insight Bowl had no issue because Iowa looks like the Steelers & Missouri looks like the Steelers in the year 3011. They had the same colors, but radically different uniforms. Nebraska & Wisconsin have the same colors & basically the same uniforms. That is an issue.Which is why I brought up Notre Dame v. Navy since Navy does not always wear navy blue pants. This is from 2004, so we know they did this for decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFoA Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 If the Insight Bowl had no issue with it, why should a Nebraska/Wisconsin matchup? The Mizzou old gold does not make that much of a difference in a game for a QB. The same could be said for the annual Navy/Notre Dame game as well. They are smart enough to know who plays for whom. Don't underestimate the players. The Insight Bowl had no issue because Iowa looks like the Steelers & Missouri looks like the Steelers in the year 3011. They had the same colors, but radically different uniforms. Nebraska & Wisconsin have the same colors & basically the same uniforms. That is an issue.Which is why I brought up Notre Dame v. Navy since Nave does not always wear navy blue pants. This is from 2004, so we know they did this for decades. Ah, I gotcha. Didn't Navy start wearing their alt away unis, or was that just for Army & bowl games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-(dp)- Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 If the Insight Bowl had no issue with it, why should a Nebraska/Wisconsin matchup? The Mizzou old gold does not make that much of a difference in a game for a QB. The same could be said for the annual Navy/Notre Dame game as well. They are smart enough to know who plays for whom. Don't underestimate the players. The Insight Bowl had no issue because Iowa looks like the Steelers & Missouri looks like the Steelers in the year 3011. They had the same colors, but radically different uniforms. Nebraska & Wisconsin have the same colors & basically the same uniforms. That is an issue.Which is why I brought up Notre Dame v. Navy since Nave does not always wear navy blue pants. This is from 2004, so we know they did this for decades. Even worse was when Georgia Tech and Notre Dame played, with ND wearing gold-white-gold and GT wearing gold-gold-white Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnWis97 Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 On 1/3/2011 at 4:32 PM, Red Wolf said: On 1/3/2011 at 2:15 PM, illwauk said: On 1/3/2011 at 1:26 PM, TheOldRoman said: It has been discussed here before, but Wisconsin's and Nebraska's football uniforms look almost identical. White helmets with red facemask, same shade of red jersey with two white stripes, white pants with two red stripes. Other than the logos, the only differences between the teams are that Nebraska has a single helmet stripe, always wears red pants on the road, and just this season moved the TV numbers to the shoulders. I was reminded of this watching the Rose Bowl, when Wiscy wore their little seen red pants (presumably for the last time). Having two nearly identical looking teams is no big deal if they rarely if ever play eachother, but they really need to distinguish themselves if they are going to be in the same conference. Both of these are established football schools (Neb much moreso) and aren't going to drastically change their looks or pull out silly modern jerseys which wouldn't fit them. So, are any changes rumored for either of the teams? What changes do you guys think should be made? First off, I would eliminate the red pants from Wisconsin's closet. I think Wisconsin should switch their shade of red to that of their helmet decals (which are noticably darker than the jerseys/pants/facemasks). As much as I am against adding black to established looks for the hell of it, I think Wiscy could add a thin black outline (or even a small drop shadow) to the numbers to mimic the logo. I think Nebraska could go from a double stripe to a single stripe on the sleeves and pants. It is not a whole lot, but it would distinguish the schools a little bit more. I definitely wouldn't complain if this were to happen. However, I would love to see them rock these full-time: Not only are they actually wearing cardinal and not the scarlet they switched to thanks to Barry Alverez's daddy issues with the Huskers, but it's a perfect look for a team from a school that calls itself a Midwest Ivy with a straight face Those are awesome. I know a lot of people like these, but I am never sure whether they include those ridiculous helmets in their assessment. I could go for the jersey, but the helmet needs to stay the same. I know Wisconsin is not Alabama, Notre Dame, Yankees, etc., but in Madison, the helmet is untouchable and the symbol of the program. Barry Alverez brought it in and proceeded to build a doormat into a winner. The rest of the uniform, however, is nothing special...and I think people would be content with a different design, so long as it was fairly simple. I hope they leave block numbers on the jersey and don't add black trim (see: basketball), but I think most fans would live with it. I agree with making the rest of the red match the helmet. The current helmet, the above jersey and darker red on the current pants (love the stripes, which match the helmet stripes). Or keep it the same. I agree with some of the above...neither Wisconsin nor Nebraska "have to" change uniforms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnWis97 Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 On 1/3/2011 at 1:45 PM, PackerBadger said: Regardless of Saturday's score, this ? ? looks better than this: Abso-freaking-lutely. White-white-white is so boring. Gimme white-red-white and white-white-red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PackerBadger Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 If Wisconsin were to change their red jersey to the darker version of red on their 'W' helmet logo, then we'd have a post created on here complaining that they look too much like Indiana.You may be right, but let's get our reds straight:NEBRASKA: Scarlet and creamOHIO STATE: Scarlet and grayWISCONSIN: Cardinal and whiteINDIANA: Cream and crimsonMINNESOTA: Maroon and goldUW should be darker than Nebraska and Ohio State, but lighter than Indiana. (As it is, the above photo looks as if they stole the Kansas City Chiefs' red pants.)And for that matter, perhaps the answer is for Nebraska to replace its white with cream. (Makes you wonder why America's Dairyland didn't have cream as a color for its world class university.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOldRoman Posted January 4, 2011 Author Share Posted January 4, 2011 How about BOTH teams keep them the same and anyone who can't read the team name on the score bar can be slapped in the face. And if you are actually at the game and can't tell who is playing then you have problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JQK Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 How about BOTH teams keep them the same and anyone who can't read the team name on the score bar can be slapped in the face. And if you are actually at the game and can't tell who is playing then you have problems.<img> Stupid Picture </img>That doesn't really fit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubsFanBudMan Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Those Wisconsin reverse-sleeved jerseys aren't the only non-traditional look they've trotted out, right? Weren't there Apex jerseys with giant front-facing motion Ws arond the same time as Iowa's wing jerseys? Or did I imagine that?Either way, neither will likely be forced to change, but it seems the Badgers might do it since they've done it before, especially if the uni is based on Nebraska. It seems Alvarez screwed up the Hayden Fry "steal your look from a winner" tradition he started with the Hawkeyes-Steelers and Bill Snyder continued with Kansas State-Cowboys. It was supposed to be an NFL team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnWis97 Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Those Wisconsin reverse-sleeved jerseys aren't the only non-traditional look they've trotted out, right? Weren't there Apex jerseys with giant front-facing motion Ws arond the same time as Iowa's wing jerseys? Or did I imagine that?That was Minnesota. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOldRoman Posted January 4, 2011 Author Share Posted January 4, 2011 How about BOTH teams keep them the same and anyone who can't read the team name on the score bar can be slapped in the face. And if you are actually at the game and can't tell who is playing then you have problems.<img> Stupid Picture </img>That doesn't really fit...Sure it does. Stomping your feet and saying "anyone who doesn't agree with me should be slapped" and building a strawman about the people who disagree with you is more than fitting. Yes, I could tell by the giant W on Wisconsin's helmet that they are the Badgers and not Cornhuskers. Still there is no reason why two schools, let alone two schools in the same conference, should have identical uniforms except for a chest patch, helmet decal and one extra helmet stripe. It is even worse considering Wisconsin's school color is different, and they ackonwledged ditching their color and stealing their look from Nebraska.Is it earthshattering that sports teams should consider branding and distinguishing themselves? What the heck do we talk about on this board? People complain about every other MLB using red-white-blue, yet it is A-OK for two college football teams who will play almost every year to have not just the same colors, but carbon copy unis? Why not just put each team in Raiders unis with different logos and say "If you can't tell who is playing by the helmet logos and players you are a moron?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruColor Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 College/university color standards don't always seem to matter - it seems that athletic teams sometimes do whatever they want regardless of any guidelines that are in place - but here are the "standard" shades of Red used by the U. of Wisconsin and the U. of Nebraska: <---> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knnhrvy16 Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Echoing some other posters here, and as I've said before, there are enough differences to tell the two apart. I've already said what I think should be done if there HAS to be a change, but in my humble opinion, there really doesn't have to be. It's not like Wisconsin students are going to show up to a home game against Nebraska and not be able to tell the two teams apart. Even from a distance, the gigantic "W" on the helmets really is enough. Hell, you could see that thing from outer space. Was it a good idea for Wisconsin to change in the first place? Eh, as obviously seen here, probably not. But, it is what it is and has been for some 20 years. I'd be all for a total re-haul for Wisconsin from the get-go if they sucked, but they've won three Rose Bowls and have played in four with this look, so it's a look that epitomizes success in Wisconsin's history. But like I said, if there absolutely positively HAS to be a change or the world falls off it's axis, just make it a simple one and no crazy crap, because if the Badgers ever trot out of the gate with some ridiculous modern template and look like Nebraska's and Cincinnati's love child, I'll hurl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PackerBadger Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Those Wisconsin reverse-sleeved jerseys aren't the only non-traditional look they've trotted out, right? Weren't there Apex jerseys with giant front-facing motion Ws arond the same time as Iowa's wing jerseys? Or did I imagine that?Either way, neither will likely be forced to change, but it seems the Badgers might do it since they've done it before, especially if the uni is based on Nebraska. It seems Alvarez screwed up the Hayden Fry "steal your look from a winner" tradition he started with the Hawkeyes-Steelers and Bill Snyder continued with Kansas State-Cowboys. It was supposed to be an NFL team. The less-than-cardinal red actually dates back to the early 1980s, I think. Before that their uniforms generally looked like the St. Louis Cardinals. (As if that is a "steal your look from a winner" move.)They added the jersey stripes in the early '80s ?? then went to TV numbers in the mid '80s (see #62, upper right) ?? then Alvarez arrived and he went to the Nebraska East look in 1990, with the motion W a year later.Since, I read, UW is putting in a new field at Camp Randall, maybe this is their opportunity for CARDINAL and red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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