andrewharrington Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 And look at Oregon - they wore that hideous steel-plate look, and then, instead of copping out and switching back to throwbacks full-time, they created the far-superior current winged look. Why can't the Bills do the same thing?Because a winged shoulder design would look incredibly stupid on the Bills' uniforms. I still don't have a website, but I have a dribbble now! http://dribbble.com/andyharry [The postings on this site are my own and do not necessarily represent the position, strategy or opinions of adidas and/or its brands.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewharrington Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 You know what the problem is with pushing the envelope? Sometimes you push it right off a cliff. That's what happened with the Bills' last/current set. It's time to reign it in, get back to basics. The Bills are an older team in a smaller, traditional northern market, kind of like the AFL/AFC version of the Packers. They're a team that just looks right in traditionally styled uniforms.Back to "pushing the design envelope" though. Sports logo/uniform design is not the optimum field for that. At the end of the day the goal is for the team to look good. Not reinvent the standards of graphic design. Push the envelope, explore new frontiers in other fields of design, reinvent the wheel, etc... in other areas. When it comes to a sports team and their identity they just need to look good.You're very correct in your thought here.Teams have signature components to their looks, and they are all rooted in their respective histories. For me, any good looking uniform pays at least a little homage to the history of the team and the sport. Otherwise there's no link to the past, and without a link to the past, it's like there is no team, because the past is the team. I still don't have a website, but I have a dribbble now! http://dribbble.com/andyharry [The postings on this site are my own and do not necessarily represent the position, strategy or opinions of adidas and/or its brands.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSU151 Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 If the third logo is a full-outlining of the first two, then why is the red stripe at a different angle?You do realize all three logos have differences among them, right? The red stripes in the top two logos have different angles (not to mention different buffalo shapes as well). Smart is believing half of what you hear. Genius is knowing which half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverNRed Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Maybe I missed it in the first 23 pages, but do we have an unveiling date for these yet?You'd think it'd be before, or at, the draft but I'm wondering how the labor negotiations might be affecting all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Apollo Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 And look at Oregon - they wore that hideous steel-plate look, and then, instead of copping out and switching back to throwbacks full-time, they created the far-superior current winged look. Why can't the Bills do the same thing?Because a winged shoulder design would look incredibly stupid on the Bills' uniforms.I'm not so sure. Buffalo Wings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommytimp Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 [i'm not so sure. Buffalo Wings?I guess you have to be here to appreciate them fully. "The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that it's hard to verify their authenticity."--Abraham Lincoln Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewharrington Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 And look at Oregon - they wore that hideous steel-plate look, and then, instead of copping out and switching back to throwbacks full-time, they created the far-superior current winged look. Why can't the Bills do the same thing?Because a winged shoulder design would look incredibly stupid on the Bills' uniforms.I'm not so sure. Buffalo Wings?I stand corrected. I should have said, "To any sane person, a winged shoulder design would look incredibly stupid on the Bills' uniforms." I still don't have a website, but I have a dribbble now! http://dribbble.com/andyharry [The postings on this site are my own and do not necessarily represent the position, strategy or opinions of adidas and/or its brands.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGWB Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Interesting....this is what the concept is based off:It's based off of a photo of a blurry, half visible logo on a sign. Stupidest thing I've heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 New brand identity leaked today: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverNRed Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 New brand identity leaked today:You're a monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicfurth Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 If the third logo is a full-outlining of the first two, then why is the red stripe at a different angle?You do realize all three logos have differences among them, right? The red stripes in the top two logos have different angles (not to mention different buffalo shapes as well).My mistake. Just glanced over them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lights Out Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 And look at Oregon - they wore that hideous steel-plate look, and then, instead of copping out and switching back to throwbacks full-time, they created the far-superior current winged look. Why can't the Bills do the same thing?Because a winged shoulder design would look incredibly stupid on the Bills' uniforms.I think you misunderstood me. I meant that, like Oregon, the Bills could adopt a better modern design instead of doing a total cop-out retro uniform. POTD: 2/4/12 3/4/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 And look at Oregon - they wore that hideous steel-plate look, and then, instead of copping out and switching back to throwbacks full-time, they created the far-superior current winged look. Why can't the Bills do the same thing?Because a winged shoulder design would look incredibly stupid on the Bills' uniforms.I think you misunderstood me. I meant that, like Oregon, the Bills could adopt a better modern design instead of doing a total cop-out retro uniform.Why do you assume it's going to be a retro uniform? It's clearly not. They're maintaining navy. If any of the recent new NFL uniforms are any indication the new Bills set will have a wordmark and a custom number font, both modern design elements. This isn't a retro uniform. It's going to be based in retro styling, and that's perfect for a team like the Bills. PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 And look at Oregon - they wore that hideous steel-plate look, and then, instead of copping out and switching back to throwbacks full-time, they created the far-superior current winged look. Why can't the Bills do the same thing?Because a winged shoulder design would look incredibly stupid on the Bills' uniforms.I think you misunderstood me. I meant that, like Oregon, the Bills could adopt a better modern design instead of doing a total cop-out retro uniform.Why do you assume it's going to be a retro uniform? It's clearly not. They're maintaining navy. If any of the recent new NFL uniforms are any indication the new Bills set will have a wordmark and a custom number font, both modern design elements. This isn't a retro uniform. It's going to be based in retro styling, and that's perfect for a team like the Bills.I thought there were pics of the new unis already shown in this thread? Were those just concepts? Either way, all indications have been that it's going to be retro - maybe not a straight "throwback", but at the very least "retro inspired" or "traditional". "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewharrington Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 I think one could argue that any 'modern' uniform design is rooted in 'retro' aesthetic just as much as any design that has sleeve and sock stripes to go along with a linear helmet and pant stripe. Just because a uniform. Just because a uniform has straight linear stripes doesn't automatically make it a retro design, just as any design that features asymmetrical, oversized or vertical design elements and colored panels isn't necessarily modern. I still don't have a website, but I have a dribbble now! http://dribbble.com/andyharry [The postings on this site are my own and do not necessarily represent the position, strategy or opinions of adidas and/or its brands.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Just concepts, Vet. I would submit that not all retro uniforms are "cop-outs". If the design is good, who cares if it's old? Sometimes hearkening back to an earlier era really is the best choice. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC in Da House w/o a Doubt Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 I think one could argue that any 'modern' uniform design is rooted in 'retro' aesthetic just as much as any design that has sleeve and sock stripes to go along with a linear helmet and pant stripe. Just because a uniform. Just because a uniform has straight linear stripes doesn't automatically make it a retro design, just as any design that features asymmetrical, oversized or vertical design elements and colored panels isn't necessarily modern.Who the hell is Maryland University?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 And look at Oregon - they wore that hideous steel-plate look, and then, instead of copping out and switching back to throwbacks full-time, they created the far-superior current winged look. Why can't the Bills do the same thing?Because a winged shoulder design would look incredibly stupid on the Bills' uniforms.I think you misunderstood me. I meant that, like Oregon, the Bills could adopt a better modern design instead of doing a total cop-out retro uniform.Why do you assume it's going to be a retro uniform? It's clearly not. They're maintaining navy. If any of the recent new NFL uniforms are any indication the new Bills set will have a wordmark and a custom number font, both modern design elements. This isn't a retro uniform. It's going to be based in retro styling, and that's perfect for a team like the Bills.I thought there were pics of the new unis already shown in this thread? Were those just concepts? As Goth said, those were just concepts. Either way, all indications have been that it's going to be retro - maybe not a straight "throwback", but at the very least "retro inspired" or "traditional".And this is fitting for the Buffalo Bills. PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanMcD29 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 I think one could argue that any 'modern' uniform design is rooted in 'retro' aesthetic just as much as any design that has sleeve and sock stripes to go along with a linear helmet and pant stripe. Just because a uniform. Just because a uniform has straight linear stripes doesn't automatically make it a retro design, just as any design that features asymmetrical, oversized or vertical design elements and colored panels isn't necessarily modern.Who the hell is Maryland University??And University of Syracuse for that matter Twitter: @RyanMcD29 // College Crosse: Where I write, chat, and infograph lacrosse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Either way, all indications have been that it's going to be retro - maybe not a straight "throwback", but at the very least "retro inspired" or "traditional".And this is fitting for the Buffalo Bills.True.Oregon was mentioned, but that's an apples/oranges comparison. They never had a really classic, beloved look in their historical closet. The Bills do. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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