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I'm not sure how I feel about that...

I'm sure.

I hate it.

Black armbands are classy and a worthy tribute. If that's not enough, do what the Yankees sometimes do and put his number in black above the armband.

But dressing the entire team up in his jersey? I don't like it when MLB does it for Jackie Robinson, but at least he was a singular figure in the sport. Pesky was never anything close to Robinson.

Another showy, look-at-me-grieving promotion. Shameless.

Not only do I agree with you on this, but if it wasn't for the foul pole being named after him, no one outside of Fenway would know or care about Pesky. He was a good player, but the way he's talked about, I thought he dominated his era, not even close. I guess Pesky is Boston's version of Tim Tebow.

 

 

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I'm not sure how I feel about that...

I'm sure.

I hate it.

Black armbands are classy and a worthy tribute. If that's not enough, do what the Yankees sometimes do and put his number in black above the armband.

But dressing the entire team up in his jersey? I don't like it when MLB does it for Jackie Robinson, but at least he was a singular figure in the sport. Pesky was never anything close to Robinson.

Another showy, look-at-me-grieving promotion. Shameless.

Not only do I agree with you on this, but if it wasn't for the foul pole being named after him, no one outside of Fenway would know or care about Pesky. He was a good player, but the way he's talked about, I thought he dominated his era, not even close. I guess Pesky is Boston's version of Tim Tebow.

You should read up on him. Because he's much more than "Boston's version of Tim Tebow".

I'd say he's more known for his time on Earth as a human being than being known as a great player.

I mean his legend might be a little over the top, but the reason he's so big isn't because he was as a great player. His legendary status has a lot more to do with his reputation as a human being.

I'm a Red Sox fan, so you can write this off if you want, but I think I'm a pretty objective Red Sox fan. But I digress.

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I'm not sure how I feel about that...

I'm sure.

I hate it.

Black armbands are classy and a worthy tribute. If that's not enough, do what the Yankees sometimes do and put his number in black above the armband.

But dressing the entire team up in his jersey? I don't like it when MLB does it for Jackie Robinson, but at least he was a singular figure in the sport. Pesky was never anything close to Robinson.

Another showy, look-at-me-grieving promotion. Shameless.

Not only do I agree with you on this, but if it wasn't for the foul pole being named after him, no one outside of Fenway would know or care about Pesky. He was a good player, but the way he's talked about, I thought he dominated his era, not even close. I guess Pesky is Boston's version of Tim Tebow.

This comment fills me with so much rage I have no idea what I'm going to do.

Johnny Pesky devoted his life to the Boston Red Sox. He'd done everything the organization has asked him to. He was a manager, a coach, a broadcast, a player, and then basically an "ambassador" for the Sox. He loved the team and he loved the fans, and the team and fans loved him, too. He is one of the Red Sox' single most important icons, right up there with Williams and Yaz, not because of his talents on the field (though he was an above-average player) but because how much he loved the franchise and the city.

Johnny Pesky is so much more than "Boston's version of Tebow". The fact that you would even write off his life and career like that is, quite frankly, offensive.

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I'm not sure how I feel about that...

I'm sure.

I hate it.

Black armbands are classy and a worthy tribute. If that's not enough, do what the Yankees sometimes do and put his number in black above the armband.

But dressing the entire team up in his jersey? I don't like it when MLB does it for Jackie Robinson, but at least he was a singular figure in the sport. Pesky was never anything close to Robinson.

Another showy, look-at-me-grieving promotion. Shameless.

Not only do I agree with you on this, but if it wasn't for the foul pole being named after him, no one outside of Fenway would know or care about Pesky. He was a good player, but the way he's talked about, I thought he dominated his era, not even close. I guess Pesky is Boston's version of Tim Tebow.

This comment fills me with so much rage I have no idea what I'm going to do.

Johnny Pesky devoted his life to the Boston Red Sox. He'd done everything the organization has asked him to. He was a manager, a coach, a broadcast, a player, and then basically an "ambassador" for the Sox. He loved the team and he loved the fans, and the team and fans loved him, too. He is one of the Red Sox' single most important icons, right up there with Williams and Yaz, not because of his talents on the field (though he was an above-average player) but because how much he loved the franchise and the city.

Johnny Pesky is so much more than "Boston's version of Tebow". The fact that you would even write off his life and career like that is, quite frankly, offensive.

Can you explain just exactly how/why you're offended?

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So you're saying he's someone who couldn't let go when his playing days were over, then.

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So you're saying he's someone who couldn't let go when his playing days were over, then.

That's more or less what I'd say he was. He did a lot for the team over the (many) years he was here, but yeah "someone who couldn't let go when his playing days were over" is pretty accurate.

As far as dedication to the Red Sox goes, he's at the top. But he sure as hell isn't worthy of a Jackie Robinson-esque tribute, because quite simply he didn't have an iota of the effect on the game of baseball that Jackie Robinson did.

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If he did all those "jobs" for free, then he'd be a remarkable man. But if someone offered me a paid job as a coach or "ambassador" for the Red Sox, I'd probably say yes too. Probably not the worst job in the world.

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If he did all those "jobs" for free, then he'd be a remarkable man. But if someone offered me a paid job as a coach or "ambassador" for the Red Sox, I'd probably say yes too. Probably not the worst job in the world.

I know he got paid to be an actual member of a coaching staff for some years in the middle of the century, and was paid when he became a broadcaster, but I'm not sure if he got paid during his later years when he was just hitting fungos to the infielders or dozing off in the dugout.

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I'm not sure how I feel about that...

I'm sure.

I hate it.

Black armbands are classy and a worthy tribute. If that's not enough, do what the Yankees sometimes do and put his number in black above the armband.

But dressing the entire team up in his jersey? I don't like it when MLB does it for Jackie Robinson, but at least he was a singular figure in the sport. Pesky was never anything close to Robinson.

Another showy, look-at-me-grieving promotion. Shameless.

Not only do I agree with you on this, but if it wasn't for the foul pole being named after him, no one outside of Fenway would know or care about Pesky. He was a good player, but the way he's talked about, I thought he dominated his era, not even close. I guess Pesky is Boston's version of Tim Tebow.

This comment fills me with so much rage I have no idea what I'm going to do.

Johnny Pesky devoted his life to the Boston Red Sox. He'd done everything the organization has asked him to. He was a manager, a coach, a broadcast, a player, and then basically an "ambassador" for the Sox. He loved the team and he loved the fans, and the team and fans loved him, too. He is one of the Red Sox' single most important icons, right up there with Williams and Yaz, not because of his talents on the field (though he was an above-average player) but because how much he loved the franchise and the city.

Johnny Pesky is so much more than "Boston's version of Tebow". The fact that you would even write off his life and career like that is, quite frankly, offensive.

Can you explain just exactly how/why you're offended?

Because Johnny Pesky was much more to the Red Sox and Boston than just "A below-average quarterback who has a far-too-devoted following for whatever reason."

Think about it - he's been involved with the Red Sox in some capacity longer than the current owner has been alive.

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Hey just thought I'd share these with you guys, I figure this is the most appropriate place to put it without creating a whole new topic. Just stumbled upon these press passes for the New York Giants and Cleveland Indians World Series match-up in 1954. It also includes an awesome shot of the Giant's victory ring at the bottom, which is absolutely beautiful with the branches surrounding the bold diamond.

The second photo is a very cool comparison to hold to the 1954 ring and press passes, showing what the SF Giants and Texas Rangers used two years ago which are what I'm assuming to be press passes used for the Series? (is this a tradition in MLB?)

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I'm a Yankee fan and I have tremendous respect for the legacy that Johnny Pesky left. To compare him to Tebow is purely asinine (especially from the perspective of a Jets fan who cannot stand Tebow or the hype around him). The guy absolutely loved his team and stayed active for decades and decades. There are certain guys who spend their entire lives in baseball, from day one to the day they die, and he was one of them.

BTW, let's not underrate how good a player he was. Before the war, he was one of the best players in the league. There's probably some even better articles about the start of his career out there, but here's a good summary of those early playing days of Johnny Pesky, when he was at his peak: (link)

And of course, there's some guys who become legendary in their home cities for more than just what they did as players. Pesky was one of those guys, and from a perspective on the opposite side of that rivalry, I can totally see why. Very few people were as dedicated to the game and to his team as he was.

That said, I think the "everyone wears #6 tribute is a bit hokey, and sets a bad precedent. I'm fine with it on Jackie Robinson Day to recognize his impact on the game as a whole, but I don't want this to become a standard tribute for every beloved player, which'll evenutally get worn down to every well-liked player that passes away. A nice patch or armband is a fine tribute, uniform-wise. I find simple tributes are usually the best.

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I'm not sure how I feel about that...

I'm sure.

I hate it.

Black armbands are classy and a worthy tribute. If that's not enough, do what the Yankees sometimes do and put his number in black above the armband.

But dressing the entire team up in his jersey? I don't like it when MLB does it for Jackie Robinson, but at least he was a singular figure in the sport. Pesky was never anything close to Robinson.

Another showy, look-at-me-grieving promotion. Shameless.

Not only do I agree with you on this, but if it wasn't for the foul pole being named after him, no one outside of Fenway would know or care about Pesky. He was a good player, but the way he's talked about, I thought he dominated his era, not even close. I guess Pesky is Boston's version of Tim Tebow.

This comment fills me with so much rage I have no idea what I'm going to do.

Johnny Pesky devoted his life to the Boston Red Sox. He'd done everything the organization has asked him to. He was a manager, a coach, a broadcast, a player, and then basically an "ambassador" for the Sox. He loved the team and he loved the fans, and the team and fans loved him, too. He is one of the Red Sox' single most important icons, right up there with Williams and Yaz, not because of his talents on the field (though he was an above-average player) but because how much he loved the franchise and the city.

Johnny Pesky is so much more than "Boston's version of Tebow". The fact that you would even write off his life and career like that is, quite frankly, offensive.

I can understand someone not understanding if they'd never experienced something like that. By the way you speak, it sounds like he was the Bostonian equivalent of Yogi Berra or Don Lasorda. He must be sorely missed. :cry:

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I was browsing the MLB Shop, and noticed that they are once again selling authentics hats with the American flag on the side, and a Blue Jays one with both flags for 9/11. I guess the Stars &Stripes hats won't be making an appearance. Without restarting the military vs patriotism debate, I think they are a nice tribute.

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I was browsing the MLB Shop, and noticed that they are once again selling authentics hats with the American flag on the side, and a Blue Jays one with both flags for 9/11. I guess the Stars &Stripes hats won't be making an appearance. Without restarting the military vs patriotism debate, I think they are a nice tribute.

I personally have no problem with the Stars and Stripes caps, but I think the Flag Patch caps are definitely the better way to go. Especially with 9/11 anniversary, which is when they were first used.

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I was browsing the MLB Shop, and noticed that they are once again selling authentics hats with the American flag on the side, and a Blue Jays one with both flags for 9/11. I guess the Stars &Stripes hats won't be making an appearance. Without restarting the military vs patriotism debate, I think they are a nice tribute.

I personally have no problem with the Stars and Stripes caps, but I think the Flag Patch caps are definitely the better way to go. Especially with 9/11 anniversary, which is when they were first used.

Yet they're all made in China. Go figure.

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I was browsing the MLB Shop, and noticed that they are once again selling authentics hats with the American flag on the side, and a Blue Jays one with both flags for 9/11. I guess the Stars &Stripes hats won't be making an appearance. Without restarting the military vs patriotism debate, I think they are a nice tribute.

I personally have no problem with the Stars and Stripes caps, but I think the Flag Patch caps are definitely the better way to go. Especially with 9/11 anniversary, which is when they were first used.

Yes, exactly. Like someone in this thread said earlier (about a different topic) simpler is better. I, for one, liked the Stars & Stripes hats the first few years they had them before they jumped the shark, but I feel that an American flag patch on the side is a much better tribute.

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Wow, I seemed to piss off someone in Boston who found out that the rest of the world doesn't revolve around them and their sports franchises. Again, if it wasn't for the foul pole no one outside of Boston would know or care who Johnny Pesky was. If that pisses you off, oh well.

 

 

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Wow, I seemed to piss off someone in Boston who found out that the rest of the world doesn't revolve around them and their sports franchises. Again, if it wasn't for the foul pole no one outside of Boston would know or care who Johnny Pesky was. If that pisses you off, oh well.

No, he is pissed off because you called him the Tim Tebow of the Red Sox. Your statement was quite ignorant.

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