2012 MLB & Logo Changes

[bosrs1]

I doubt AT&T Park will be changing names again anytime soon, since AT&T is an old name and likely here to stay. SBC was always a dumb name, surprised they didn't just go with AT&T in the first place.

Because AT&T didn't exist as it does today at the time. Originally the park naming rights were purchased by local Pacific Telephone and Telegraph (Pacific Bell) who were bought out shortly thereafter by SBC who in turn bought out AT&T's name and renamed their own company to AT&T. The AT&T that exists today is really still just a renamed SBC Communications, not the AT&T we all knew and hated in the 20th century.

[Bouj]

"Marlins Park" will be gone in short order and "Office Depot Field" or whatever the hell it's called will be all that we remember it by.

I'm not a fight-to-the-deather on the whole corporate naming rights thing (but for one sentimental execption), but I do hate the contrived nicknames that are made to go along with the corporate name. U.S Cellular Field as "The Cell," I'll allow, though I'll still refer to it as Comiskey, and I feel nicknaming anything on the south side after a jail seems rather tone-deaf. But I wanted to punch a random passerby when I was instructed to refer to Minute Maid Park as "The Juice Box," or the Giants' revolving-door-name park as "The Phone Booth." "Hey, let's go to the Phone Booth!" No one says this.

The first time I heard Minute Maid referred to as The Juice Box was when the local TV sports anchors decided to get cute and started call it that in 04/05 or around there. It was dumb then, it's dumb now. But it kinda caught on enough for it to be a thing. No one I know calls it The Juice Box, they just call it Minute Maid.

[piratesfan16]

Here's my speculation of mlb uniform & logo changes for 2012.

1. Houston Astros: Complete overhaul on both home and road jerseys and home & road alternates. They will return to the Navy and orange combo and their logo will be a combination of their 80's and mid to late 90's set.

2.Oakland Athletics. A return to "A's" on their home uniforms and green alternate and Old English style lettering on their roads

3. Toronto Blue Jays: complete overhaul and a return to solid royal blue and baby blue on all uniforms

4. Milwaukee Brewers. "Milwaukee" on road jerseys

5.Seattle Mariners to bring back Navy/teal cap.

6.Florida Marlins. Teal and orange will be their primary colors. Home, road, and two alternates. One a teal home alt

7. New York Mets. Swap the black alternate for a Royal blue one

8. Baltimore Orioles. Orange home alt jersey and a black road alt with "Baltimore" across the chest in orange

9. San Diego Padres. Complete overhaul. Brown/yellow gold/khaki primary colors. Home, road, and a brown alt jersey

10.Pittsburgh Pirates. Canary Yellow throwback jersey for an alternate. Yellow/black hat from the early 70's added as the alt cap

11. Colorado Rockies. Overhaul on all uniforms. Drop the pinstripes on home and road jerseys, tweak the lettering a bit and add sleeves on the black alt and pinstripe alt

Christ, you're back?

"speculation" is not a synonym for "what I want" or "poop I'm just making up".

Dude, it's what I think will happen, not what I want to happen. I just got this feeling those changes will be made for next season or the season after next season. Nobody knows which mlb team will get new uniforms next season other than the Jays and Marlins.

Using ANGELCAT-IDA's logic, here's what I think will happen in my near future:

Saturday, I will win the lottery. I'll buy a huge house, 47 cars and at least 3 boats. On Wednesday I'll win the lottery again, but I'll buy an airplane or something cheap. A month from now, Kate Upton and some of her supermodel friends and I will be playing ping-pong in my back yard. Two months from now, I'll win the lottery again, not because I'll need the money, but rather, I'm good at picking numbers. Next year, I'll buy the LA Dodgers and move them back to Brooklyn. And in five years, I'll be the commissioner of all 4 major pro sports leagues.

Again, this is what I think will happen, not what I want to happen. I just got this feeling...

It may appear like this thread is just going down the crapper, but it actually is helping to distinguish those who seriously know what they're talking about and those who are just looking to feel like they're of a superior mind before reallity sets in and they return to their mother's basement.

#1, #3, #5, #7, #8, and #11 are all VERY close to being true. I think we owe him an apology.

[McCall]

Here's my speculation of mlb uniform & logo changes for 2012.

1. Houston Astros: Complete overhaul on both home and road jerseys and home & road alternates. They will return to the Navy and orange combo and their logo will be a combination of their 80's and mid to late 90's set.

2.Oakland Athletics. A return to "A's" on their home uniforms and green alternate and Old English style lettering on their roads

3. Toronto Blue Jays: complete overhaul and a return to solid royal blue and baby blue on all uniforms

4. Milwaukee Brewers. "Milwaukee" on road jerseys

5.Seattle Mariners to bring back Navy/teal cap.

6.Florida Marlins. Teal and orange will be their primary colors. Home, road, and two alternates. One a teal home alt

7. New York Mets. Swap the black alternate for a Royal blue one

8. Baltimore Orioles. Orange home alt jersey and a black road alt with "Baltimore" across the chest in orange

9. San Diego Padres. Complete overhaul. Brown/yellow gold/khaki primary colors. Home, road, and a brown alt jersey

10.Pittsburgh Pirates. Canary Yellow throwback jersey for an alternate. Yellow/black hat from the early 70's added as the alt cap

11. Colorado Rockies. Overhaul on all uniforms. Drop the pinstripes on home and road jerseys, tweak the lettering a bit and add sleeves on the black alt and pinstripe alt

Christ, you're back?

"speculation" is not a synonym for "what I want" or "poop I'm just making up".

Dude, it's what I think will happen, not what I want to happen. I just got this feeling those changes will be made for next season or the season after next season. Nobody knows which mlb team will get new uniforms next season other than the Jays and Marlins.

Using ANGELCAT-IDA's logic, here's what I think will happen in my near future:

Saturday, I will win the lottery. I'll buy a huge house, 47 cars and at least 3 boats. On Wednesday I'll win the lottery again, but I'll buy an airplane or something cheap. A month from now, Kate Upton and some of her supermodel friends and I will be playing ping-pong in my back yard. Two months from now, I'll win the lottery again, not because I'll need the money, but rather, I'm good at picking numbers. Next year, I'll buy the LA Dodgers and move them back to Brooklyn. And in five years, I'll be the commissioner of all 4 major pro sports leagues.

Again, this is what I think will happen, not what I want to happen. I just got this feeling...

It may appear like this thread is just going down the crapper, but it actually is helping to distinguish those who seriously know what they're talking about and those who are just looking to feel like they're of a superior mind before reallity sets in and they return to their mother's basement.

#1, #3, #5, #7, #8, and #11 are all VERY close to being true. I think we owe him an apology.

#1 did NOT happen and no, we do NOT owe him an apology.

[TheOldRoman]

"Marlins Park" will be gone in short order and "Office Depot Field" or whatever the hell it's called will be all that we remember it by.

I'm not a fight-to-the-deather on the whole corporate naming rights thing (but for one sentimental execption), but I do hate the contrived nicknames that are made to go along with the corporate name. U.S Cellular Field as "The Cell," I'll allow, though I'll still refer to it as Comiskey, and I feel nicknaming anything on the south side after a jail seems rather tone-deaf. But I wanted to punch a random passerby when I was instructed to refer to Minute Maid Park as "The Juice Box," or the Giants' revolving-door-name park as "The Phone Booth." "Hey, let's go to the Phone Booth!" No one says this.

C'mon. Your point stands, but I would say a whole bunch people refer to their cell phone as their "cell" and other than the few "ZOMG! It's like a prison cell cuz it's in the ghetto" imbeciles, most people think of cellphones first before prison. It's not like they have affectionately dubbed it The Clink.

[Gothamite]

I certainly didn't make the cell/prison connection the first few thousand times I heard it.

[RETROJR79]

Plural form of team name + "park" is a lame-o construction. Yankee Stadium, Tiger Stadium, those are classics. Even the short-lived "Dolphin Stadium" sounded nice. But "Nationals Park" sounds stupid, like it's a national park, but someone made a typo. I remember one of the sports-geekery sites of Ye Olde Intered Net, I wanna say Munsey & Suppes, had the tentative name of the Expos' new home as "The Capital Diamond." That would've sounded pretty sweet. Unfortunately, the Washington Nationals are the Washington Nationals, and as such they play in "Nationals Park." Sometimes old people call Wrigley Field "Cubs Park." They're dumb. One of the most famous sports venues in the world and you can't even deign to say "Wrigley"? I wonder if there's a dying generation of New Englanders who wax nostalgic about Place Where Red Sox Games Are Contested.

Anyway, "Marlins Park" is no better. I'd almost rather they call it the Miami Orange Bowl, since it's the spiritual successor of that venue. Loria said something at the relaunch party about how the Marlins were an international team for an international city. How about International Ballpark?

"Marlins Park" sounds like what they would call it in a video game that didn't want to pay the corporate sponsor to use the actual name. Marlin Field sounds like an actual name. Including the "s" makes it generic and soulless enough to be forgettably tossed aside for the corporate nom du jour. "Marlins Park" will be gone in short order and "Office Depot Field" or whatever the hell it's called will be all that we remember it by.

That's what I was thinking, too. Same with Nationals Park. A corporate sponsorship would almost be better.

I kinda like it when stadium is not name after corporation I mean the Browns name is still Cleveland Browns Stadium since 99 so I got no problem with Marlins Park although I was hoping it would be Costco Field LOL.

[The_Admiral]

As far as nicknames for the actual cell, I like "Hotel 26th and California."

[RETROJR79]

"Marlins Park" will be gone in short order and "Office Depot Field" or whatever the hell it's called will be all that we remember it by.

I'm not a fight-to-the-deather on the whole corporate naming rights thing (but for one sentimental execption), but I do hate the contrived nicknames that are made to go along with the corporate name. U.S Cellular Field as "The Cell," I'll allow, though I'll still refer to it as Comiskey, and I feel nicknaming anything on the south side after a jail seems rather tone-deaf. But I wanted to punch a random passerby when I was instructed to refer to Minute Maid Park as "The Juice Box," or the Giants' revolving-door-name park as "The Phone Booth." "Hey, let's go to the Phone Booth!" No one says this.

The first time I heard Minute Maid referred to as The Juice Box was when the local TV sports anchors decided to get cute and started call it that in 04/05 or around there. It was dumb then, it's dumb now. But it kinda caught on enough for it to be a thing. No one I know calls it The Juice Box, they just call it Minute Maid.

That make sense I called STAPLES Center "The Big Office"!!

[TwoRsAndTwoLs]

"Marlins Park" will be gone in short order and "Office Depot Field" or whatever the hell it's called will be all that we remember it by.

I'm not a fight-to-the-deather on the whole corporate naming rights thing (but for one sentimental execption), but I do hate the contrived nicknames that are made to go along with the corporate name. U.S Cellular Field as "The Cell," I'll allow, though I'll still refer to it as Comiskey, and I feel nicknaming anything on the south side after a jail seems rather tone-deaf. But I wanted to punch a random passerby when I was instructed to refer to Minute Maid Park as "The Juice Box," or the Giants' revolving-door-name park as "The Phone Booth." "Hey, let's go to the Phone Booth!" No one says this.

In Seattle, we had the KeyArena and Safeco Field before they built what was then called Seahawks Stadium. I had hoped they would eschew the corporate naming process and name it for the Washington State governor at the time, Gary Locke.

That way, we'd have "The Key," "The Safe," and "The Locke."

[tohasbo]

I am pretty sure that this has been going on for a while but on each MLB team site, it looks like they have an individual Spring Training logo.

[RedSox44]

I am pretty sure that this has been going on for a while but on each MLB team site, it looks like they have an individual Spring Training logo.

And all of them are ugly.

I've long suspected that arenas/stadiums looking to pick up a corporate sponsorship make their name as bland and generic sounding as possible, to muffle the negative reaction once a sponsorship is picked. New Meadowlands Stadium was the epitome of that: it sounded generic and temporary, and people actually were happy when it was renamed. Virtually anything with "Plural team name" + "Field/Park/Stadium" fits that bill though.

Giving it a cool, or at least permanent-sounding, distinguishing nameis only begging for an uproar once a sponsorship is picked up.

That's a good point, but it doesn't explain why Nationals Park, which has been the home field of the Nationals since 2008, doesn't have a corporate sponsor yet.

They haven't been able to get a sponsor willing to pay what they are demanding yet. The economy went belly-up soon after Nats Park opened, after all.

They need to drop the price then. Having Nationals Park and Marlins Park in the same division must be crushing for NL East fans.

[CanesCop86]

I am pretty sure that this has been going on for a while but on each MLB team site, it looks like they have an individual Spring Training logo.

And all of them are ugly.

I've long suspected that arenas/stadiums looking to pick up a corporate sponsorship make their name as bland and generic sounding as possible, to muffle the negative reaction once a sponsorship is picked. New Meadowlands Stadium was the epitome of that: it sounded generic and temporary, and people actually were happy when it was renamed. Virtually anything with "Plural team name" + "Field/Park/Stadium" fits that bill though.

Giving it a cool, or at least permanent-sounding, distinguishing nameis only begging for an uproar once a sponsorship is picked up.

That's a good point, but it doesn't explain why Nationals Park, which has been the home field of the Nationals since 2008, doesn't have a corporate sponsor yet.

They haven't been able to get a sponsor willing to pay what they are demanding yet. The economy went belly-up soon after Nats Park opened, after all.

They need to drop the price then. Having Nationals Park and Marlins Park in the same division must be crushing for NL East fans.

Frankly, I have more important things to worry about then a stadium name. I much rather worry about watching the team play so I'm definately not "crushing"

[TheOldRoman]

I actually don''t mind the name US Cellular Field (the name itself kinda sucks, but I deal with it). I don't call it Comiskey for two reasons. 1) Comiskey Park was the classic park across the street which was torn down. I don't like parks sharing names, and that park was special. 2) New Comiskey was a huge blunder which is best forgotten. Renovations started around '99, but the most dramatic renovations were done with money from the naming rights. Taking the name USCF (or whatever name they would have chosen) turned a white elephant into a damn good park. It isn't PNC Park by any means, but it is nice and the transformation from 15 years ago is night and day.

[FiddySicks]

"Marlins Park" will be gone in short order and "Office Depot Field" or whatever the hell it's called will be all that we remember it by.

I'm not a fight-to-the-deather on the whole corporate naming rights thing (but for one sentimental execption), but I do hate the contrived nicknames that are made to go along with the corporate name. U.S Cellular Field as "The Cell," I'll allow, though I'll still refer to it as Comiskey, and I feel nicknaming anything on the south side after a jail seems rather tone-deaf. But I wanted to punch a random passerby when I was instructed to refer to Minute Maid Park as "The Juice Box," or the Giants' revolving-door-name park as "The Phone Booth." "Hey, let's go to the Phone Booth!" No one says this.

Actually in SF many people do call it "The Phone Booth", since it's always been named after one phone company or another. It's been the one consistent thing about the park. Or it goes by it's original nickname "Pac Bell."

I've been to about a hundred Giants games since Pac Bell/SBC/AT&T Park opened, during every single name change, and watch just about every single game on TV, and I have never once heard it referred to by anyone as the phone booth before this thread. If people were to say that, they'd probably get some funny looks from Giants fans.

The only other name I've ever heard the park called was the name that was originally proposed, and thats China Basin Park. That was the placeholder before all the details with Pacific Bell were worked out, but even that wasn't official and I've only heard it once or twice.

[BBTV]

I am pretty sure that this has been going on for a while but on each MLB team site, it looks like they have an individual Spring Training logo.

And all of them are ugly.

I've long suspected that arenas/stadiums looking to pick up a corporate sponsorship make their name as bland and generic sounding as possible, to muffle the negative reaction once a sponsorship is picked. New Meadowlands Stadium was the epitome of that: it sounded generic and temporary, and people actually were happy when it was renamed. Virtually anything with "Plural team name" + "Field/Park/Stadium" fits that bill though.

Giving it a cool, or at least permanent-sounding, distinguishing nameis only begging for an uproar once a sponsorship is picked up.

That's a good point, but it doesn't explain why Nationals Park, which has been the home field of the Nationals since 2008, doesn't have a corporate sponsor yet.

They haven't been able to get a sponsor willing to pay what they are demanding yet. The economy went belly-up soon after Nats Park opened, after all.

They need to drop the price then. Having Nationals Park and Marlins Park in the same division must be crushing for NL East fans.

Yeah, I'm an NL East fan (Phillies) and having those parks in the division is nothing short of devastating. I hope they fix that by opening day or I'm not sure if I'll be able to go on.

[GuitarPunk2512]

me and my friends and people dont say "lets go to _____ stadium/field/park,ect. we just say lets go to a mets game or an islanders game. i know one place that would be sad to see naming rights on is the nassau veterans memorial coliseum here for the islanders, but the way things are panning out, the islanders will eb gone and the coliseum will be closed.

[roxfan00]

The Rockies new road uniforms.

[Fox]

Looks better than the first photo I saw of them. Still, I think they would look better with a full or mostly purple script.

[Magnum]

Looks alright but I'm starting to wish they'd scrap their current unis and do a complete rehaul. I mean, 19 years now ... at least there's consistency.