bosrs1 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 The San Jose Earthquakes two kits finally leaked out.The away kit is particularly good being a return to what the Quakes should have been wearing since 2008http://www.soccer.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Merchant_Id=1&query=MLS&N=0&Product_Id=3801508The home kit continues the same black crap they've been wearing...http://www.soccer.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Merchant_Id=1&query=MLS&N=0&Product_Id=3799881The sad thing is that those are the best new uniforms in the entire MLS.Gotta disagree. The fire away shirt was better, and I think the Chivas shirt is really classy. The San Jose jerseys are really nice which is surprising because it seems like a pretty generic design.It's because they did away with the white away jersey which was as generic as you could get. Rumor is that their third kit is going to be a "heritage red" jersey like they wore in the 70's as an NASL 1.0 team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJWalker45 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 2017 would be the earliest we see that. Seeing how the A League teams look better since they don't have to share the same 3 or 4 templates it makes sense to open up the contract to several vendors then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosrs1 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Better looks at the Earthquakes away and home kits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFoA Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Good lord, it's like teams either make huge upgrades (San Jose, Chivas) or gigantic downgrades (Barca, Newcastle, Galaxy, RSL) for next season. It's crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk36 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Better looks at the Earthquakes away and home kitsSorry but I just can't get past that logo. Style is so dated. Maybe it's near and dear to those in San Jose but from an outsider's perspective, time to refine it and make it look more like an actual, top tier, team logo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waltere Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 2. Ripping off Real Madrid's "Real" and the fact that the United States has never had a monarch based government.Plenty of US sports franchises, at all levels, use royal imagery. Kings, Royals, Monarchs.Difference being that the Sacramento Kings, Kansas City Royals etc. all use it solely as a nickname, there are no lions in the wild in the US yet no one holds that against the Detroit Lions. 'Real' at the beginning of the name of spanish soccer teams however shows that, at one time or another, the club has recieved direct royal approval, it's not just a nickname. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJM Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Better looks at the Earthquakes away and home kitsSorry but I just can't get past that logo. Style is so dated. Maybe it's near and dear to those in San Jose but from an outsider's perspective, time to refine it and make it look more like an actual, top tier, team logo.Couldn't agree more...that crest needs a redesign. Not a fan of the jerseys either...Adidas phoned this one in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJWalker45 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Even if Real is at the front, its the same as if it were Salt Lake Royals. Yes it looks goofy for a team in Utah to have a Spanish name attached to it. But there was a precedent for it when they made an alliance with Real Madrid. They have an agreement to provide training facilities for youth players and Madrid chipped in for getting the facility built. Would be similar to the youth academies in Ohio that fell under Columbus Crew's youth development program and changed their names to match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintsfan Posted January 27, 2012 Author Share Posted January 27, 2012 2. Ripping off Real Madrid's "Real" and the fact that the United States has never had a monarch based government.Plenty of US sports franchises, at all levels, use royal imagery. Kings, Royals, Monarchs.Difference being that the Sacramento Kings, Kansas City Royals etc. all use it solely as a nickname, there are no lions in the wild in the US yet no one holds that against the Detroit Lions. 'Real' at the beginning of the name of spanish soccer teams however shows that, at one time or another, the club has recieved direct royal approval, it's not just a nickname.But Real Salt Lake are an American sports franchise. Also Real Madrid in fact benefitted most from Franco's patronage, rising to prominence in the 50s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJWalker45 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Also Real Madrid in fact benefitted most from Franco's patronage, rising to prominence in the 50s.Several Spanish clubs benefitted from Franco. The main reason for the hate between Real Madrid and Barcelona came from how Franco treated Catalunya after the war. The Camp Nou was the only place that Catalans could speak out against him which is why Barca, Valencia and other clubs have such passionate fans. And Real's title was given by Alfonso XIII, not Franco, in 1920 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin W. Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Yep, and that's part of why Johan Cruyff is so revered among Barca fans, because he pretty much publicly told Franco to piss off when he signed with Barcelona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintsfan Posted January 27, 2012 Author Share Posted January 27, 2012 Also Real Madrid in fact benefitted most from Franco's patronage, rising to prominence in the 50s.Several Spanish clubs benefitted from Franco. The main reason for the hate between Real Madrid and Barcelona came from how Franco treated Catalunya after the war. The Camp Nou was the only place that Catalans could speak out against him which is why Barca, Valencia and other clubs have such passionate fans. And Real's title was given by Alfonso XIII, not Franco, in 1920Yes, but the growth of Real Madrid as a major force in Spanish and European football comes from Franco's patronage, rather than any royal patronage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosrs1 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Better looks at the Earthquakes away and home kitsSorry but I just can't get past that logo. Style is so dated. Maybe it's near and dear to those in San Jose but from an outsider's perspective, time to refine it and make it look more like an actual, top tier, team logo.Couldn't agree more...that crest needs a redesign. Not a fan of the jerseys either...Adidas phoned this one in.Won't happen. The fans fought hard to get that crest, along with the team's colors, name and records to stay in the city when the original version of the team left. They won't let it go now. And to be fair they did upgrade it when the team came back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
479gooch Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 These designs are practically begging MLS to end the Adidas contract and allow individual production.Umbro's worst is above Adidas these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin W. Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 These designs are practically begging MLS to end the Adidas contract and allow individual production.That would be possible if not for the single-entity structure of the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJWalker45 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 These designs are practically begging MLS to end the Adidas contract and allow individual production.Umbro's worst is above Adidas these days.Just remember, Reebok made the Revolution and original Colorado Rapids logos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waltere Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Also Real Madrid in fact benefitted most from Franco's patronage, rising to prominence in the 50s.Several Spanish clubs benefitted from Franco. The main reason for the hate between Real Madrid and Barcelona came from how Franco treated Catalunya after the war. The Camp Nou was the only place that Catalans could speak out against him which is why Barca, Valencia and other clubs have such passionate fans. And Real's title was given by Alfonso XIII, not Franco, in 1920Yes, but the growth of Real Madrid as a major force in Spanish and European football comes from Franco's patronage, rather than any royal patronage.And that has anything to do with their name because...Not being an ass just they were called Real Madrid long before Franco came along, and are still called it long after Franco has gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin W. Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 These designs are practically begging MLS to end the Adidas contract and allow individual production.Umbro's worst is above Adidas these days.Just remember, Reebok made the Revolution and original Colorado Rapids logosI really don't understand the hate for the Revs' logo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 It is at once terribly ugly, irretrievably dated and wholly inappropriate for a sports team. These designs are practically begging MLS to end the Adidas contract and allow individual production.That would be possible if not for the single-entity structure of the league.I don't know that single-entity is really such an impediment to that. Team investors already operate much as traditional owners do in other sports in terms of the crest, team name etc. Why not throw the uniforms into that?I think the bigger problem is the rise of online stores run by the league rather than individual teams. It's just so much easier for leagues to operate one online shop when all the products come from the same supplier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin W. Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 The crests don't make money. The uniforms do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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