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It's a harder job than it looks. 1. The NFL won't let you make the same (or similar) caps each year, so there constant reinventing of the wheel/fixing what isn't broken. 2. The NFL generally sees the cap customer as decidedly progressive, which automatically puts the designer in a hole, in my opinion. 3. I don't mind this cap. I like stripes. Something you don't normally see on a cap. 4. No reason to call out the designer for being a novice. If you knew how many meetings and revisions these designs went through, you'd pull your hair out. When you design licensed apparel, you often grow to hate your own work because the final product is always miles away from your original idea.

Who cares? The "Star Wars" prequels no doubt took a lot of "hard work" and were directed by "non-novice" George Lucas. Doesn't change the fact that they sucked.

This type of attitude is actually the main reason these things continue to suck. It's kind of rude to go around bad mouthing a designer you've never met based on a product the likes of which you know next to nothing about how it was produced. If I had designed that cap, would you call me a novice to my face? No, you'd probably go about it in a much more constructive way and tell me that you don't really like it that much and explain why. I don't see why it's okay to disrespect the designer because he or she is faceless (to you). Put yourself in the other person's shoes every once in a while.

And given the circumstances I outlined in the post that you derided, I'd say the designer did an admirable job. Your George Lucas comparison is not valid, either. He had complete artistic control over how those prequels played out, and he blew it, so it is his fault, and they did suck. No decisions regarding licensed apparel are made by the person who created the design, so it's not really fair to put it all on the designer.

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It's a harder job than it looks. 1. The NFL won't let you make the same (or similar) caps each year, so there constant reinventing of the wheel/fixing what isn't broken. 2. The NFL generally sees the cap customer as decidedly progressive, which automatically puts the designer in a hole, in my opinion. 3. I don't mind this cap. I like stripes. Something you don't normally see on a cap. 4. No reason to call out the designer for being a novice. If you knew how many meetings and revisions these designs went through, you'd pull your hair out. When you design licensed apparel, you often grow to hate your own work because the final product is always miles away from your original idea.

Who cares? The "Star Wars" prequels no doubt took a lot of "hard work" and were directed by "non-novice" George Lucas. Doesn't change the fact that they sucked.

This type of attitude is actually the main reason these things continue to suck. It's kind of rude to go around bad mouthing a designer you've never met based on a product the likes of which you know next to nothing about how it was produced. If I had designed that cap, would you call me a novice to my face? No, you'd probably go about it in a much more constructive way and tell me that you don't really like it that much and explain why. I don't see why it's okay to disrespect the designer because he or she is faceless (to you). Put yourself in the other person's shoes every once in a while.

And given the circumstances I outlined in the post that you derided, I'd say the designer did an admirable job. Your George Lucas comparison is not valid, either. He had complete artistic control over how those prequels played out, and he blew it, so it is his fault, and they did suck. No decisions regarding licensed apparel are made by the person who created the design, so it's not really fair to put it all on the designer.

Are you a designer, or have you merely taken it upon yourself to get offended on their behalf? Rewind: I never said that Reebok's designer was a "novice," but rather the end product was decidedly amateurish. You say these things are done "by committee"? Fine, then they all did a lousy job.

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These were the best ones because each cap wasn't part of the same template. Each cap featured the piping of each team's pants on the cap. Wish they'd do something like this instead of using one generic template for each cap.

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Bland is the word. Looks like a novice graphic artist designed it.

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The only thing I dislike about these is the white stitching that stands out against the blue....horrible idea. Reminds me of Reebok's Draft Day trucker caps from 2005. I think that was the year they used the same stripes design in the front.

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This is also new era:

http://www.hatsaleshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/New_Era_Hats.jpg

If u guys thing you're going to get plain hats with a team logo on the front every year you are sadly mistaken.

And if u think the NFL gave contracts to Nike and new era for anything but money, you are also sadly mistaken. The NFL has loved reeboks work the last 11 years and the teams did too. If reebok put up the money they would have had the contract...

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This is also new era:

http://www.hatsaleshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/New_Era_Hats.jpg

If u guys thing you're going to get plain hats with a team logo on the front every year you are sadly mistaken.

And if u think the NFL gave contracts to Nike and new era for anything but money, you are also sadly mistaken. The NFL has loved reeboks work the last 11 years and the teams did too. If reebok put up the money they would have had the contract...

Well hopefully they'll do it at least one year. One year is all I need.

PS- That Mets hat posted a few posts above is so awesome.

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Doubt each cap would be that fancy. More than likely they'll just be the stretch kind that MLB players wear after winning a championship.

I don't know about that. Wouldn't it make more sense to use 59Fifty's instead since they are New Era's biggest sellers?

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I love those monograms that New Era used to use for the NFL. If they brought those back for the sideline caps, I'd be a very happy man.

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This is also new era:

http://www.hatsaleshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/New_Era_Hats.jpg

If u guys thing you're going to get plain hats with a team logo on the front every year you are sadly mistaken.

And if u think the NFL gave contracts to Nike and new era for anything but money, you are also sadly mistaken. The NFL has loved reeboks work the last 11 years and the teams did too. If reebok put up the money they would have had the contract...

True, but at least part of the package will be the 59Fiftys (hopefully poly) that are essentially plain other than the team logos. That alone makes it worth it. Reebok cant put out a decent fitting hat, that's my gripe.

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This is also new era:

http://www.hatsaleshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/New_Era_Hats.jpg

If u guys thing you're going to get plain hats with a team logo on the front every year you are sadly mistaken.

And if u think the NFL gave contracts to Nike and new era for anything but money, you are also sadly mistaken. The NFL has loved reeboks work the last 11 years and the teams did too. If reebok put up the money they would have had the contract...

True, but at least part of the package will be the 59Fiftys (hopefully poly) that are essentially plain other than the team logos. That alone makes it worth it. Reebok cant put out a decent fitting hat, that's my gripe.

Exactly. People are getting a little carried away about New Era. Both Nike and New Era will be making unique and plain NFL hats in 2012.

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IF ONE IS CONSIDERED RACIST, THEN BOTH MUST BE CONSIDERED RACIST.

BOTTOM LINE: NEITHER ONE IS RACIST.

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This is also new era:

http://www.hatsaleshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/New_Era_Hats.jpg

If u guys thing you're going to get plain hats with a team logo on the front every year you are sadly mistaken.

And if u think the NFL gave contracts to Nike and new era for anything but money, you are also sadly mistaken. The NFL has loved reeboks work the last 11 years and the teams did too. If reebok put up the money they would have had the contract...

True, but at least part of the package will be the 59Fiftys (hopefully poly) that are essentially plain other than the team logos. That alone makes it worth it. Reebok cant put out a decent fitting hat, that's my gripe.

Have you ever tried on a 59Fifty? Tough task to find even one of them that fits correctly and/or doesn't have some sort of error in the placement or quality of the embroidery.

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This is also new era:

http://www.hatsaleshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/New_Era_Hats.jpg

If u guys thing you're going to get plain hats with a team logo on the front every year you are sadly mistaken.

And if u think the NFL gave contracts to Nike and new era for anything but money, you are also sadly mistaken. The NFL has loved reeboks work the last 11 years and the teams did too. If reebok put up the money they would have had the contract...

True, but at least part of the package will be the 59Fiftys (hopefully poly) that are essentially plain other than the team logos. That alone makes it worth it. Reebok cant put out a decent fitting hat, that's my gripe.

Exactly. People are getting a little carried away about New Era. Both Nike and New Era will be making unique and plain NFL hats in 2012.

AND Twins '47 also gets in on the NFL hat game, which makes me the most happy of any of these new contracts

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It's a harder job than it looks. 1. The NFL won't let you make the same (or similar) caps each year, so there constant reinventing of the wheel/fixing what isn't broken. 2. The NFL generally sees the cap customer as decidedly progressive, which automatically puts the designer in a hole, in my opinion. 3. I don't mind this cap. I like stripes. Something you don't normally see on a cap. 4. No reason to call out the designer for being a novice. If you knew how many meetings and revisions these designs went through, you'd pull your hair out. When you design licensed apparel, you often grow to hate your own work because the final product is always miles away from your original idea.

Who cares? The "Star Wars" prequels no doubt took a lot of "hard work" and were directed by "non-novice" George Lucas. Doesn't change the fact that they sucked.

This type of attitude is actually the main reason these things continue to suck. It's kind of rude to go around bad mouthing a designer you've never met based on a product the likes of which you know next to nothing about how it was produced. If I had designed that cap, would you call me a novice to my face? No, you'd probably go about it in a much more constructive way and tell me that you don't really like it that much and explain why. I don't see why it's okay to disrespect the designer because he or she is faceless (to you). Put yourself in the other person's shoes every once in a while.

And given the circumstances I outlined in the post that you derided, I'd say the designer did an admirable job. Your George Lucas comparison is not valid, either. He had complete artistic control over how those prequels played out, and he blew it, so it is his fault, and they did suck. No decisions regarding licensed apparel are made by the person who created the design, so it's not really fair to put it all on the designer.

Are you a designer, or have you merely taken it upon yourself to get offended on their behalf? Rewind: I never said that Reebok's designer was a "novice," but rather the end product was decidedly amateurish. You say these things are done "by committee"? Fine, then they all did a lousy job.

I am a designer, and I do take it upon myself to stick up for them. In-house designers, especially designers in licensed apparel, take a lot of heat from you guys. Being on the other side of the fence, knowing and experiencing the process, seeing a project go from concept to completion is something that very few of you guys can relate to, so I try to share what I know when it seems like the designer is not getting a fair go at things. It's fine to not like something, but a good portion of the time people make disrespectful comments about the designer and his or her skillset, which is not excellent.

I still don't have a website, but I have a dribbble now! http://dribbble.com/andyharry

[The postings on this site are my own and do not necessarily represent the position, strategy or opinions of adidas and/or its brands.]

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