ARTnSocal Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 That's true, but...the Bears are also pretty smart about how they handle those stripes. They still do three, but the third is on the sleeve cuff itself, and several Bears players, most notably Urlacher & Briggs, actually wear jerseys w/ sleeves tailored to enclose the edges of their shoulder pads, which is about as close to a "sleeve" as we gon' get in the NFL these days. The Steelers on the other hand....eh, let's not get into that.Quite correct about the 3 stripes .... In 2007 they wore white for their home opener and Devin Hester really pulled a disappearing job on his sleeves.Last season in 2010, da BEARS jersey sleeves are still cut short with the black at the bottom of the roadies, but perhaps they've since made it a team policy where they don't allow any more shortening of the sleeves, possibly in memorial of Mr. Halas' initials, which have shrunk over the years ard are now only on the left arm-sleeve. Back in the day, 80s with Payton the 'GSH' was quite a large font.This is from their 2010 home opener against the LIONS where there wore white and you can barely make out the 'GSH' on the sleeve, but Chester Taylor or other players from other photos didn't mess with the length of their sleeves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewharrington Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 That's true, but...the Bears are also pretty smart about how they handle those stripes. They still do three, but the third is on the sleeve cuff itself, and several Bears players, most notably Urlacher & Briggs, actually wear jerseys w/ sleeves tailored to enclose the edges of their shoulder pads, which is about as close to a "sleeve" as we gon' get in the NFL these days. The Steelers on the other hand....eh, let's not get into that.Quite correct about the 3 stripes .... In 2007 they wore white for their home opener and Devin Hester really pulled a disappearing job on his sleeves.Last season in 2010, da BEARS jersey sleeves are still cut short with the black at the bottom of the roadies, but perhaps they've since made it a team policy where they don't allow any more shortening of the sleeves, possibly in memorial of Mr. Halas' initials, which have shrunk over the years ard are now only on the left arm-sleeve. Back in the day, 80s with Payton the 'GSH' was quite a large font.This is from their 2010 home opener against the LIONS where there wore white and you can barely make out the 'GSH' on the sleeve, but Chester Taylor or other players from other photos didn't mess with the length of their sleeves.That would be dark blue, not black. Also, the Bears would be fine if they would just move the TV numerals up to the top of the shoulder pads. at this point you can't have both numerals and stripes on your sleeve. you can have stripes on your sleeve, but your numerals need to go on your shoulder then. Likewise, if you only have numerals, you can place them either on the sleeve or the shoulders, but you can't have both stripes and numerals on your sleeve anymore. There's just not enough room. I still don't have a website, but I have a dribbble now! http://dribbble.com/andyharry [The postings on this site are my own and do not necessarily represent the position, strategy or opinions of adidas and/or its brands.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJWalker45 Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 Left, classic. Right, should look more like left. BTW, the Cowboys never saw the light of day last year. In looking for an outdoor shot to compare to Craig Morton, I discovered that every game they played outside last year was at night. The game at the Meadowlands started at 4:15 EST.I didn't check game start times, so perhaps it would've been more accurate to say that the pics I could find looked like night games. These are from the Meadowlands. Must have been pretty cloudy. If the game was in November/December, It's getting dark around 4:00 anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTnSocal Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 That would be dark blue, not black. Also, the Bears would be fine if they would just move the TV numerals up to the top of the shoulder pads. at this point you can't have both numerals and stripes on your sleeve. you can have stripes on your sleeve, but your numerals need to go on your shoulder then. Likewise, if you only have numerals, you can place them either on the sleeve or the shoulders, but you can't have both stripes and numerals on your sleeve anymore. There's just not enough room.Whoops! You're right, the BEARS wear that midnight blue color ... My typo error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolvikings Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 The Bears would be fine if they would just move the TV numerals up to the top of the shoulder pads. at this point you can't have both numerals and stripes on your sleeve. you can have stripes on your sleeve, but your numerals need to go on your shoulder then. Likewise, if you only have numerals, you can place them either on the sleeve or the shoulders, but you can't have both stripes and numerals on your sleeve anymore. There's just not enough room.I disagree. Its true, the Bears' sleeves are really crowded, but I appreciate them being the last team to hold the line on the traditional numbers-and-stripes-on-the-sleeve look (unless you count the Chiefs... I don't because the end-of-sleeve band is not the same as a full sleeve stripe IMO). Moving the numbers up to the shoulder is not a small thing. It really does change the look significantly. To me, shoulder numbers say "modern" and sleeve numbers say "traditional". Look at old vs. new pictures of the Browns, Packers, or Giants. Look at pictures of the Vikings from the 70's and compare it to last year's throwbacks. Moving those numbers up would make a HUGE change in the overall feel of the Bears' uni. I'd rather see the stripes dropped than the numbers moved. http://dstewartpaint.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewharrington Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 The Bears would be fine if they would just move the TV numerals up to the top of the shoulder pads. at this point you can't have both numerals and stripes on your sleeve. you can have stripes on your sleeve, but your numerals need to go on your shoulder then. Likewise, if you only have numerals, you can place them either on the sleeve or the shoulders, but you can't have both stripes and numerals on your sleeve anymore. There's just not enough room.I disagree. Its true, the Bears' sleeves are really crowded, but I appreciate them being the last team to hold the line on the traditional numbers-and-stripes-on-the-sleeve look (unless you count the Chiefs... I don't because the end-of-sleeve band is not the same as a full sleeve stripe IMO). Moving the numbers up to the shoulder is not a small thing. It really does change the look significantly. To me, shoulder numbers say "modern" and sleeve numbers say "traditional". Look at old vs. new pictures of the Browns, Packers, or Giants. Look at pictures of the Vikings from the 70's and compare it to last year's throwbacks. Moving those numbers up would make a HUGE change in the overall feel of the Bears' uni. I'd rather see the stripes dropped than the numbers moved.There's no question that shoulder numbers make a uniform look completely different, but functionality is the issue here, not aesthetics. Traditional only works if it's still functional (see the Packers' 1929 throwbacks from last season). The other point to be made is that, sure, you see a Bears uniform with sleeve numbers next to one with shoulder numbers, it looks like a drastic change, but once the switch is made, it's something that is quite subtle. The Browns don't look modern at all, but they definitely use shoulder numbers. When you see a current Browns uniform next to an old one, you get the feeling, but on it's own, the current Browns uni looks as traditional as ever. Ohio State has used shoulder numbers for decades and has never looked very modern. I still don't have a website, but I have a dribbble now! http://dribbble.com/andyharry [The postings on this site are my own and do not necessarily represent the position, strategy or opinions of adidas and/or its brands.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LunchBox8484 Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 Here's one with the GIANTS and their rare 1975 logo with blue road pants at RFK from the season they played their home games at Shea Stadium.I saw those when they played the BILLS at Rich Stadium on MNF that season, that game remains a bit of a blur. Like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02Rover Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 This is one of those questions that probably has no clear answer and, indeed, is "in the eye of the beholder", but where does one draw the line between "classic" and "dated" looks when it comes to NFL unis? Teams such as the Bears, Packers, Raiders would probably fall in that category. I tend to see it as the classic look while I've heard others remark that they need to bring their unis into the 21st century. Then again, I'll be 51 in a couple weeks so maybe it's an age thing I believe that the more traditional teams need a new look: BrownsChiefsRaidersPackersColtsI dont think the Browns or Packers (or Raiders for that matter) would ever do a complete overhaul. Maybe a tweak here or there, as we have seen, but the fans in these cities are totally in love with thier teams look and they (we, me being a Browns fan) really dont care of others dont care for it. We love it and our team knows we love it and its been enough to get the current "classic" unis to this point, Im sure there is no turning back now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakonius26 Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Here's one with the GIANTS and their rare 1975 logo with blue road pants at RFK from the season they played their home games at Shea Stadium.I saw those when they played the BILLS at Rich Stadium on MNF that season, that game remains a bit of a blur. Like this? LOL, scrimmage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockstar Matt Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 I think the Raiders need to have these: as their away uniforms then they'll have the best look in the NFL. It'd be classic and they'd never need to change it.Classic:Dated:I hate the Giants, but they need to get rid of the Grey pants for the home set and change them to white, then they'll have a great looking set.I hate the 'Iggles, but they have a great helmet. However, I hate the rest of the uniform. Cowboys - Lakers - LAFC - USMNT - LA Rams - LA Kings - NUFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chawls Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 [a bunch of pictures] Now to me, I find the Cowboys' mismatching blues to date their look. On the other hand, I find the Giants' look timeless BECAUSE of their gray pants. I hate gray facemasks in most situations, but the gray pants help to justify what would otherwise be a gross misuse of a gray facemask. Quote If you hadn't noticed, Chawls loves his wrestling, whether it be real life or sim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideRight Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Classic: Packers, Bears, Giants, 49ers(if they fix the sleeve stripes), Steelers, Browns, Raiders, Redskins, Buccs, SaintsDated: Jets, Colts (Both for the ridiculous half-shoulder stripe issues), Cowboys (color mismatch), ChiefsNew but good: Bills new-retro, Broncos, Cardinals, Seahawks (if they stop unitarding and mix up the pants/jerseys) Dolphins, Patriots (could be better, but it is at least solid), Eagles, Panthers, Texans, Ravens, Lions, FalconsNew and bad: Vikings, Bengals, Chargers (so close, but some major issues remain), Rams (need to do a retro with the sleeves and go back to gold pants), Jaguars (any of their prior unis is better than the present ones), Titans (more of a lame logo issue than the uniforms, but I will put it here just for the use of a light blue jersey and dark blue pants.)Some teams need total overhauls (Vikings, Bengals), some need minor tweaks (Chargers, Cowboys, Chiefs), some just need to wear the right combination of pants & jerseys (Seahawks, Titans). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 I don't get the sentiment that wants to see the Giants go with white pants. The grey pants sets them apart from other red, white, and blue sports teams. It makes their scheme unique. PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lights Out Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 If the Giants used grey/silver in their jerseys, logo, and color scheme, then the gray facemask and pants would make sense. As it stands right now, the random gray and inconsistent uniforms make the Giants look like a muddled mess. POTD: 2/4/12 3/4/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolvikings Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Giants in white pants would suck. The gray pants are what makes the uniform interesting. That, and the switch to red elements on the road. People want to take away the only things that make the uniform worth looking at.Sometimes consistancy makes a uniform come together well, but consistancy for it's own sake does nothing for me. http://dstewartpaint.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnySeoul Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 The "untouchables"(with a few allowable tweaks)The "decent modern"The "what the &^*$ were they thinking"The "would be so much better if they..." JohnnySeoul's WikipageIF ONE IS CONSIDERED RACIST, THEN BOTH MUST BE CONSIDERED RACIST.BOTTOM LINE: NEITHER ONE IS RACIST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC in Da House w/o a Doubt Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 I definitely prefer what the Jets currently wear to what you put for what you'd wish they go with. I actually think the Jets uniforms aren't too far from reaching that untouchables category. I doubt they change them for many many years. Overall though, I agree with 90% of JohnnySeoul's assessment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolvikings Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 The dark red 9er uniform? Really? http://dstewartpaint.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TornadoGTS Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 The dark red 9er uniform? Really?Thats what I was thinking as well. I have always hated those unis and always will. Facebook: CustomSportsCovers Twitter: CSCovers Quote No because when the Irish came to Ireland and first came in contact with the leprechaun people, they didn't take their land away and force them to move west. Instead, the two groups learned to assimilate peacefully. However, certain tribes of the leprechaun refused to taint the pure blood and moved north into the forests of Ireland, only to be seen rarely, usually at the same time of a rainbows appearance and occasionally at the factories of Lucky Charms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolvikings Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 The dark red 9er uniform? Really?Thats what I was thinking as well. I have always hated those unis and always will.Wait, I just spotted an even worse "really??"... the all-black Jags uniform? If possible, that might be even uglier then their current nightmare. http://dstewartpaint.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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