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Dexter Morgan

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Detroit Stars: One too many SP, one too many RP, one too few C, one too few CF. Your initial lineup on the rosters page was also flawed, as Crawford does not qualify as a CF. He was a RF.

One pitcher in the pen was allowed to be SP, I have 2 catchers, Sam Crawford played 278 games at CF.

Your long reliever is the one that is allowed to be a starter. That means 7 in total. You picked 8.

278 games isn't enough to qualify for a position (it's in the 600 range - 4 uninterrupted seasons), and you only have Cochrane at catcher.

Ok, I'll fix CF. Also, my roster above has Cochrane and Freehan as catchers. I only have 7 SP, Perry, Walsh, Newhouser, Morris, Tanana, Keefe and Fidrych. 4 relief, Jenks, Valverde, Myers, Wagner.

Ok, I went back and looked at my things. I had Freehan listed as CP, and not C. That was my fault.

However, you also have Waite Hoyt as a SP. So you do have one extra, at the expense of another CF.

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I say Lights Out should drop Craig Counsell and take another MI unless he really wants Craig Counsell.

I'll say that if all he wants are modern guys its really going to limit the options he can go with at that position. No question about it that he's better off going for a SS as well over a 2B.

There were good choices, even with his modern spin... Counsell was just a weird, weird ass pick.

Julio Franco, Lou Whitaker, Bret Boone, Carlos Baerga, Alfonso Soriano, (then, with SS's) Hanley Ramirez, Michael Young...

Counsell there just baffled me.

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I say Lights Out should drop Craig Counsell and take another MI unless he really wants Craig Counsell.

I'll say that if all he wants are modern guys its really going to limit the options he can go with at that position. No question about it that he's better off going for a SS as well over a 2B.

There were good choices, even with his modern spin... Counsell was just a weird, weird ass pick.

Julio Franco, Lou Whitaker, Bret Boone, Carlos Baerga, Alfonso Soriano, (then, with SS's) Hanley Ramirez, Michael Young...

Counsell there just baffled me.

I'll PM you the guys I think he should go with in order of how I have them. I don't like how we keep dueling to take guys for other people.

I stopped updating the who's been picked section of my sheet in about the 13th round so a few of the guys I have listed may in fact already be taken.

The fact that he's taking all modern guys though is going to hurt him alot.

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Detroit Stars: One too many SP, one too many RP, one too few C, one too few CF. Your initial lineup on the rosters page was also flawed, as Crawford does not qualify as a CF. He was a RF.

One pitcher in the pen was allowed to be SP, I have 2 catchers, Sam Crawford played 278 games at CF.

Your long reliever is the one that is allowed to be a starter. That means 7 in total. You picked 8.

278 games isn't enough to qualify for a position (it's in the 600 range - 4 uninterrupted seasons), and you only have Cochrane at catcher.

Ok, I'll fix CF. Also, my roster above has Cochrane and Freehan as catchers. I only have 7 SP, Perry, Walsh, Newhouser, Morris, Tanana, Keefe and Fidrych. 4 relief, Jenks, Valverde, Myers, Wagner.

Ok, I went back and looked at my things. I had Freehan listed as CP, and not C. That was my fault.

However, you also have Waite Hoyt as a SP. So you do have one extra, at the expense of another CF.

I never drafted Hoyt. :wacko: The Crawfords have him. I'm dropping Magglio for a CF when the time comes.

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Detroit Stars: One too many SP, one too many RP, one too few C, one too few CF. Your initial lineup on the rosters page was also flawed, as Crawford does not qualify as a CF. He was a RF.

One pitcher in the pen was allowed to be SP, I have 2 catchers, Sam Crawford played 278 games at CF.

Your long reliever is the one that is allowed to be a starter. That means 7 in total. You picked 8.

278 games isn't enough to qualify for a position (it's in the 600 range - 4 uninterrupted seasons), and you only have Cochrane at catcher.

Ok, I'll fix CF. Also, my roster above has Cochrane and Freehan as catchers. I only have 7 SP, Perry, Walsh, Newhouser, Morris, Tanana, Keefe and Fidrych. 4 relief, Jenks, Valverde, Myers, Wagner.

Ok, I went back and looked at my things. I had Freehan listed as CP, and not C. That was my fault.

However, you also have Waite Hoyt as a SP. So you do have one extra, at the expense of another CF.

I never drafted Hoyt. :wacko: The Crawfords have him. I'm dropping Magglio for a CF when the time comes.

Ah-HA.

I had them backwards in my big list.

This also helps clear up Infa's team too. I will drop the last pitcher picked and replace him with a catcher.

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Other than the Mets, am I missing anyone, and are there any errors on this?

Detroit Stars

Starters:

C- Mickey Cochrane

1B- George Sisler

2B- Charlie Gehringer

SS- Honus Wagner

3B- Wade Boggs

OF- Stan Musial

CF- Hack Wilson

OF- Sam Crawford

DH- Harold Baines

Bench:

C- Bill Freehan

1B/3B- #24 Tony Perez

SS/2B- Billy Herman

OF- Paul Waner

CF- Wally Berger

Rotation:

SP- Gaylord Perry

SP- Ed Walsh

SP- Hal Newhouser

SP- Jack Morris

SP- Frank Tanana

SP- Tim Keefe

Bullpen:

RP- Mark Fidrych

RP- Bobby Jenks

RP- Jose Valverde

RP- Randy Myers

CL- Billy Wagner

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Salisbury Steaks

Starters:

C- Yogi Berra

1B- Rafael Palmeiro

2B- Bill Mazeroski

SS- Derek Jeter

3B- Chipper Jones

OF- Jimmy Sheckard

CF- Willie Mays

OF- Jose Canseco

DH- Prince Fielder

Bench:

C- Biz Mackey

1B/3B- Cap Anson

U- Dan Brouthers

OF- Bo Jackson

CF- Deion Sanders

Rotation:

SP- Greg Maddux

SP- Three Finger Brown

SP- John Clarkson

SP- Dizzy Dean

SP- Eddie Cicotte

SP- Albert Spalding

Bullpen:

RP- Greg A. Harris

RP- Noboru Akiyama

LR- Shunsuke Watanabe

SU- Mike Stanton

CL- Mariano Rivera

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New York Highlanders

Starters:

C- Bill Dickey

1B- Eddie Murray

2B- Bobby Doerr

SS- Alex Rodriguez

3B- Judy Johnson

OF- Ted Williams

CF- Earle Combs

OF- Mel Ott

DH- Dave Winfield

Bench:

C-: Ernie Lombardi

1B/3B- Don Mattingly

SS/2B- Joe Sewell

OF- Harry Heilmann

CF- Earl Averill

Rotation:

SP- Grover Cleveland Alexander

SP- Steve Carlton

SP- Carl Hubbell

SP- Ron Guidry

SP- Johan Santana

SP- Dazzy Vance

Bullpen:

LR- Don Newcombe

MR- Jeff Nelson

SU- Dave Righetti

SU- Mike Marshall

CL- Sparky Lyle

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Los Angeles Dodgers

Starters:

C- Roy Campanella

1B- Jimmie Foxx

2B- Napoleon Lajoie

3B- George Kell

SS- Luke Appling

LF- Carl Yastrzemski

CF- "Cool Papa" Bell

RF- Goose Goslin

DH- Bill Terry

Bench:

C- Ray Schalk

1B- Todd Helton

2B/SS- Maury Wills

OF- Chuck Klein

CF- Lloyd Waner

Rotation:

SP- Christy Mathewson

SP- Don Sutton

SP- Robin Roberts

SP- Early Wynn

SP- Mickey Lolich

SP- Fernando Valenzuela

Bullpen:

RP- Jim Kaat

RP- Scot Shields

RP- Roberto Hernandez

RP- Jason Isringhausen

CL- Lee Smith

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Atlanta Black Crackers

Starters:

C- Jorge Posada

1B- Jeff Bagwell

2B- Rogers Hornsby

SS- Joe Cronin

3B- George Brett

OF- Barry Bonds

CF- Duke Snider

OF- Tim Raines

DH- Joe Jackson

Bench:

C- Jim Sundberg

1B/3B- Buddy Bell

SS/2B- Lou Whitaker

OF- Bobby Bonds

CF- Andruw Jones

Rotation:

SP- Tom Seaver

SP- Pedro Martinez

SP- John Smoltz

SP- Bret Saberhagen

SP- Old Hoss Radbourn

SP- Luis Tiant

Bullpen:

RP- Andy Pettite

RP- Ron Perranoski

RP- Wilbur Wood

RP- Jeff Reardon

CL- John Wetteland

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Pittsburgh Crawfords

Starters:

C - Johnny Bench

1B - Lou Gehrig

2B - Joe Morgan

3B - Brooks Robinson

SS - Alan Trammell

OF - Al Kaline

CF - Dale Murphy

OF - Frank Robinson

DH - Vada Pinson

Bench:

C - Elston Howard

1B/3B - Graig Nettles

2B/SS - Nomar Garciaparra

OF - Gary Sheffield

CF - Al Oliver

Rotation:

SP - Bob Gibson

SP - Tom Glavine

SP - Mike Mussina

SP - Catfish Hunter

SP - Waite Hoyt

SP - Dave Stieb

Bullpen:

RP- Mike Cuellar

RP- Tom Gordon

RP- Jeff Montgomery

RP- Rod Beck

CL- Tom Henke

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Tampa Bay Devil Rays

Starters:

C- Joe Mauer

1B- Sadaharu Oh

2B- Roberto Alomar

SS- Omar Vizquel

3B- Darrell Evans

OF- Larry Walker

CF- Kirby Puckett

OF- Ichiro Suzuki

DH- Edgar Martínez

Bench:

C- Javy Lopez

1B/3B- Gary Gaetti

SS/2B- Craig Counsell

OF- Luis Gonzalez

CF- Devon White

Rotation:

SP- Roger Clemens

SP- Roy Halladay

SP- Kevin Brown

SP- Felix Hernandez

SP- David Cone

SP- Orel Herschiser

Bullpen:

RP- David Wells

RP- Jeff Brantley

RP- Armando Benitez

RP- Scott Downs

CL- Trevor Hoffman

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Chicago Cubs

Starters:

C- Josh Gibson

1B- Willie Stargell

2B- Ryne Sandberg

SS- Barry Larkin

3B- Mike Schmidt

OF- Billy Williams

CF- Ken Griffey, Jr.

OF- Sammy Sosa

DH- Manny Ramirez

Bench:

C- Buck Ewing

1B/3B- Fred McGriff

SS/2B- Luis Aparicio

OF- Minnie Minoso

CF- Fred Lynn

Rotation:

SP- Lefty Grove

SP- Fergie Jenkins

SP- Joe Williams

SP- Tim Lincecum

SP- Jim Bunning

SP- J.R. Richard

Bullpen:

RP- Dock Ellis

RP- Gene Garber

RP- Bruce Sutter

RP- John Franco

CL- Robb Nen

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Albuquerque Dukes

Starters:

C- Ivan Rodriguez

1B- Jim Thome

2B- Chase Utley

SS- Pee Wee Reese

3B- Ken Boyer

OF- Reggie Jackson

CF- Andre Dawson

OF- Ricky Henderson

DH- Joe Medwick

Bench:

C- Mike Scioscia

1B- Johnny Mize

2B- Bobby Grich

3B/SS- Matt Williams

OF- Vince Coleman

OF- Carl Furillo

Rotation:

SP- Sandy Koufax

SP- Don Drysdale

SP- Dwight Gooden

SP- Lew Burdette

SP- Mudcat Grant

Bullpen:

RP- Rick Honeycutt

RP- Alejandro Pena

RP- Troy Percival

RP- Dan Quisenberry

CL- Dennis Eckersley

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Newark Eagles

Starters:

C- Gabby Hartnett

1B- Ernie Banks

2B- Eddie Collins

SS- Robin Yount

3B- Eddie Mathews

OF- Al Simmons

CF- Richie Ashburn

OF- Ed Delahanty

DH- Dick Allen

Bench:

C- Wally Schang

2B- Nellie Fox

3B- Home Run Baker

OF- Brett Butler

OF- Sherry Magee

Rotation:

SP- Walter Johnson

SP- Warren Spahn

SP- Red Ruffing

SP- Bert Blyleven

SP- Bob Lemon

SP- Eppa Rixey

Bullpen:

LR- Billy Pierce

MR- Don McMahon

SU- Tug McGraw

SU-Dave Smith

CL- Kent Tekulve

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Milwaukee Baseball LLC

Starters

C- Gary Carter

1B-Albert Pujols

2B- Frankie Frisch

SS- Lou Boudreau

3B- Paul Molitor

OF- Henry "Hank" Aaron

CF- Jim Edmonds

OF- Roberto Clemente

DH- David Ortiz

Bench:

C- Bob Uecker

1B/3B- George Scott

SS/2B- Red Schoendienst

OF- Ryan Braun

CF- Kenny Lofton

Rotation:

SP- Nolan Ryan

SP- Kid Nichols

SP- Dennis Martinez

SP- CC Sabathia

SP- Dave Stewart

SP- Tom Candiotti

Bullpen:

RP- Mike Timlin

RP- Cliff Lee

RP- Mike Fetters

RP- Francisco Rodriguez

CL- Dan Plesac

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Montreal Royals

Starters:

C- Thurman Munson

1B- Rod Carew

2B- Jackie Robinson

SS- Arky Vaughan

3B- Ron Santo

OF- Ty Cobb

CF- Tris Speaker

OF- Vladimir Guerrero

DH- Willie McCovey

Bench:

C- Ted Simmons

1B/3B- Buck Leonard

SS/2B- Craig Biggio

OF- Willie Keeler

CF- Bernie Williams

Rotation:

SP- Randy Johnson

SP- Jim Palmer

SP- Whitey Ford

SP- Lefty Gomez

SP- Tommy John

SP- Justin Verlander

Bullpen:

RP- Chuck Finley

RP- Doug Jones

RP- John Hiller

RP- Joe Nathan

CL- Rollie Fingers

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