rvrdgsfn Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/6912807/texas-aggies-tell-big-12-seek-new-conferenceThey also mentioned possible schools that are going to the Big 12 & SEC. Rumors include for the Big 12 include Notre Dame & TCU while SEC may go for Virginia Tech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeFrank Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 My dad is an A&M alum, and really likes this move as long as they keep playing Texas every year. concepts: washington football (2017) ... nfl (2013) ... yikes potd 10/20/12 origin story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvrdgsfn Posted August 31, 2011 Author Share Posted August 31, 2011 My dad is an A&M alum, and really likes this move as long as they keep playing Texas every year.I also think this is a good move, but yeah, they have to keep the rivalry with Texas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEW.ERA Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Well I think this will set off a firestorm leading to the end of Big XII football altogether. Texas is destined for Independence, Pac 12 wants 16, the Oklahoma schools and Kansas schools make sense to go there. Baylor, Mizzou, Tech and Iowa State will find homes no doubt about it. Unless they are really serious about SMU, Houston, etc and I doubt BYU would leave being independent, I think the end is near. Of course I don't know all the paperwork logistics, but to me I think it's only a matter of time. JETS|PACK|JAYS|NUFC|BAMA|BOMBERS|RAPS|ORANJE| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicfurth Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 I think this whole shin-dig really does stem from A&M's indigence over the Longhorn Network. I also think this is the ultimate rivalry move on the Aggies' part because it shows they will not play by UT's rules anymore. Personally, I love it. The rivalries with Oklahoma and OK State are manufactured at best. Texas Tech and Baylor are but ants in the grand scheme of things, always trying to steal from the big boys' picnic. On that note, however, I seriously doubt that they will throw away the game with Texas. There are other intra-conference rivalries that really work, too:-Florida/Florida State-South Carolina/Clemson-Notre Dame/Anyone elseTexas A&M has reached a point where they don't need anyone else to dictate what they can do. As of next July, I'm an SEC fan. Big XII was fun while it lasted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 The problem with A&M going to the SEC is that they seem to believe the problem with the Big 12 is Texas' dominance. What are they going to say when they get routed regularly by the SEC's upper echelon teams? I mean, A&M is good, but they're not SEC top tier good. A&M to the SEC is a lateral move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBGKon Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 The problem with A&M going to the SEC is that they seem to believe the problem with the Big 12 is Texas' dominance. What are they going to say when they get routed regularly by the SEC's upper echelon teams? I mean, A&M is good, but they're not SEC top tier good. A&M to the SEC is a lateral move.In the Big 12, Texas is king and everyone else is their subjects. At least in the SEC it can be argued that there are many in the top tier, rather that one running the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 The problem with A&M going to the SEC is that they seem to believe the problem with the Big 12 is Texas' dominance. What are they going to say when they get routed regularly by the SEC's upper echelon teams? I mean, A&M is good, but they're not SEC top tier good. A&M to the SEC is a lateral move.In the Big 12, Texas is king and everyone else is their subjects. At least in the SEC it can be argued that there are many in the top tier, rather that one running the show.If anything, having multiple teams at the top like that is worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicfurth Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 I'd beg to differ. If you have 6-7 really good teams, that seems more like parity than dominance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 But there aren't 6-7 really good teams in the SEC's top tier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicfurth Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Never mentioned top-tier, which ties into my original point. Texas was elevated above the other 11 (now 8) schools because of... why? SEC doesn't do that. The SEC doesn't have a top tier. Everyone plays, everyone beats the crap out of each other. The remaining schools in the Big XII served as fodder for Texas and networks to eat up and Texas A&M finally had enough. This was never an issue of competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEW.ERA Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Really Vandy is the only disappointing one if you really look at the SEC on a grand scale and Kentucky but they're known for 6-6, 7-5 seasons. Granted the SEC is pretty much a half and half conference, but so is the rest of the nations conferences.Perennial favorites Bama, Florida, Georgia, Auburn, Arkansas, LSUMiddleMiss State, Ole Miss, Tennessee, South CarolinaLesser likesVandy, KentuckyEvery BCS Conference has it. Adding Texas A&M and Clemson/Florida State would only greatly improve the SEC's stature, yes it can get bigger. JETS|PACK|JAYS|NUFC|BAMA|BOMBERS|RAPS|ORANJE| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Florida State won't move. There's no way Florida will let them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicfurth Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 I would almost think North Carolina would be a good fit if not for the basketball rivalries. Money-wise, VaTech makes the most sense if the point of realignment is to gain ground. Clemson, Florida State, or even Georgia Tech would not increase market share. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Clemson, Florida State, or even Georgia Tech would not increase market share.Which is why they won't go. The SEC won't permit a dilution of any of their markets, so SC won't allow Clemson, Florida won't allow FSU and Georgia will keep GT out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Really Vandy is the only disappointing one if you really look at the SEC on a grand scale and Kentucky but they're known for 6-6, 7-5 seasons. Granted the SEC is pretty much a half and half conference, but so is the rest of the nations conferences.Perennial favorites Bama, Florida, Georgia, Auburn, Arkansas, LSUMiddleMiss State, Ole Miss, Tennessee, South CarolinaLesser likesVandy, KentuckyEvery BCS Conference has it. Adding Texas A&M and Clemson/Florida State would only greatly improve the SEC's stature, yes it can get bigger.And if you look at the conference historically, Tennessee can be bumped up to the top tier (not now though) and I'd even move Kentucky up one as well. On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicfurth Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Clemson, Florida State, or even Georgia Tech would not increase market share.Which is why they won't go. The SEC won't permit a dilution of any of their markets, so SC won't allow Clemson, Florida won't allow FSU and Georgia will keep GT out.That's what I just said. "VaTech makes the most sense..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbean24 Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Vanderbilt should seriously go to the Sun Belt or C-USA. What do they give to the SEC? A guranteed win for many other teams. St. Paul Pioneers(GHA) Minnesota Skeeters(CL) Minnesota Lake Monsters(UFL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicfurth Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Academics. Gotta have a Vandy for every Alabama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvrdgsfn Posted August 31, 2011 Author Share Posted August 31, 2011 Clemson, Florida State, or even Georgia Tech would not increase market share.Which is why they won't go. The SEC won't permit a dilution of any of their markets, so SC won't allow Clemson, Florida won't allow FSU and Georgia will keep GT out.That's what I just said. "VaTech makes the most sense..."It does. Coming from an ACC fan their are only a few big names in that conference that go on to win in football, Va Tech is one, FSU. is the other. I would have also said Miami but with all the hullabaloo going on along... It would be interesting to see "Beamer Ball" works in the SEC. When or if Tech goes, this may help some of the other schools in the ACC possibly grow. Then again, I'm a UVA fan so we got a long way to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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