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Just to further prove that money doesn't buy World Series championships....the top 9 teams in 2011 payroll are out.

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The Cubs require an incentive to succeed, with no end to profits in sight they'll field the same garbage for another decade or so.

Under the corporate regime, content just to have the Cubs as a showy jewel in their empire, I'd agree.

I do think the current owners have as much ego as any other ownership group. I believe they want to win.

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Not to mention that they stand to earn even more if they win.

"No incentive to succeed" has often been leveled at the Packers, too.

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I can't speak for the Chicago teams, agree with you about the Dodgers, but how are the Giants a poorly run team? They constantly are at the top of the league in attendance figures, Have great TV ratings, have built a solid minor league system, and JUST won a World Series and have won the pennant twice in the last decade. They also make more money per fan than just about any other team. Not sure what's so poorly run about that.

Kind of funny since the Up and In Podcast breaks down the Giants system on their most recent show. The phrase "bottom of the barrel" gets used by Jason Parks. It's basically Gary Brown and... a wasteland.

Just look at what their scouting department and minor league system has produced over the past decade though. There's no denying how successful they've been in that department. It might be somewhat down at this very moment, but it basically brought them a title last season.

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Anything can happen in a short series. Though I believe they are getting rid of the 5 Game Series, and going to a 7 Game.

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Anything can happen in a short series. Though I believe they are getting rid of the 5 Game Series, and going to a 7 Game.

There's been no mention that that's happening, only that one wild card team may (unnecessarily) be added in each league.

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Unnecessary?

I think a one-game Wild Card play-in would be :censored: ing amazing. Can't wait.

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Anything can happen in a short series. Though I believe they are getting rid of the 5 Game Series, and going to a 7 Game.

There's been no mention that that's happening, only that one wild card team may (unnecessarily) be added in each league.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure I've heard it mentioned, and apparently all parties (teams and players) want the 7 game ALDS.

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I think a one-game Wild Card play-in would be :censored: ing amazing. Can't wait.

Really?

Look at this year... that incredible, greatest day of regular season baseball of all time would have been absolutely irrelevant with a one-game playoff.

In years where it's a lot less close, I really don't like the idea of one game being the reason why a team several games back keeps to get going forward, while the team that has clearly shown themselves to be superior over the previous 162 doesn't, all due to the amazing flukish things that can happen over 9 innings.

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I think a one-game Wild Card play-in would be :censored: ing amazing. Can't wait.

Really?

Look at this year... that incredible, greatest day of regular season baseball of all time would have been absolutely irrelevant with a one-game playoff.

In years where it's a lot less close, I really don't like the idea of one game being the reason why a team several games back keeps to get going forward, while the team that has clearly shown themselves to be superior over the previous 162 doesn't, all due to the amazing flukish things that can happen over 9 innings.

This.

One game playoffs are great when they happen on their own, when 2 team's are tied at the end of the season. You add one every year and it's just gonna be boring and repetitive ever year. That's why baseball playoffs are great. The fewest amount of team's get in which makes them that much more prestige.

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On the topic of Big market vs. Small market:

The Yankees are the Yankees and will always be the Yankees. Until there is revenue sharing or a hard salary cap (neither of which will ever happen), teams like the Yankees, Phillies and Red Sawks will have more money to spend on high-priced free agents and thus will have a higher talent level relative to other teams. Therefore they'll be able to rise to the top because of the 162-game marathon season that rewards consistency.

Teams like the Royals, Orioles and Padres will have a much, much lower margin of error. If they make one wrong move in terms of signing a player, it could haunt the organization for decades afterwards. Yanks, Phils and Sawks? It's no worry, they can just throw more money at players, even if they miss on a couple. MLB creates the environment with its salary structure that rewards teams that play in larger markets.

On the topic of 5-game series:

I am all in favor of them. 3-game series are fine too. Part of the reason I love the NCAA Tournament is because of the unpredictability. Part of the reason I personally dislike the NBA playoffs is because 90% of the time, everyone already knows who is going to win.

As a Nats fan it warms my heart to know the Phils got bounced in the first round of the playoffs, and thus their fans will see this season as a failure. It also amuses me that many Phils fans are bandwagon hoppers who are blissfully ignorant of what the team's attendance numbers looked like prior to 2006. The Phils' window is closing. Their starters are aging and the heart of their order is aging (Howard, Utley and Rollins aren't getting any younger). We'll see how many Phils fans show up to games when the expectations for the team are more along the lines of the expectations for the 76ers.

I applaud this post. I really do!!! Having lived in the Philly area for all 45 years of my life, it's so true how fair-weather these Philadelphia "fans" actually are. Couldn't have happened to a better city...again!

On the topic of obnoxious Phillies fans:

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Unnecessary?

I think a one-game Wild Card play-in would be :censored: ing amazing. Can't wait.

Really?

Look at this year... that incredible, greatest day of regular season baseball of all time would have been absolutely irrelevant with a one-game playoff.

In years where it's a lot less close, I really don't like the idea of one game being the reason why a team several games back keeps to get going forward, while the team that has clearly shown themselves to be superior over the previous 162 doesn't, all due to the amazing flukish things that can happen over 9 innings.

I like the advent of having 2 wild card teams, a 5 seed playing at a 4 seed, but having it be only a 1 game play-in game. Yes, the end of this 2011 regular season was beyond incredible. It's extremely unlike to happen again, so that's one reason I am in favor of the 1 game wildcard play-in game. It would require those play-in teams to perhaps use their best starting pitcher, and give them an added disadvantage in the LDS round. It would also compel teams who are in 2nd place to A. try harder to win the division to avoid having to play the 1 game play-in game, and B. teams would want to fight til the end for a better record, if they wind up being the 4 seed to host a 5 seed. As it is, if you get a team that's already wrapped up a playoff berth, they just kind of "coast". 2011 Phillies are a prime example of that. They dropped 4 in a row to the crappy Washington Nationals, but turned it on to sweep the Braves and eliminate Atlanta from the playoffs. Ironic to think the team the Phillies helped out would be the very same team that would help the Phillies out....of the post-season that is...

1 game Wildcard play in game, all for it, absolutely. LDS best of 5, LCS and World Series still the best of 7. I never understood the argument in favor of extending the 1st round to the best 4 out of 7. I prefer it this way. The one thing I would like to see changed is the wild card team would play the top seeded team, regardless of whether they are in the same division or not. As for the possibility of realignment in 2013, I'd prefer to see the D'Backs move to the AL West, and move the Houston Astros to the NL West. This way Texas & Houston would have a natural interleague rivalry, Colorado & Arizona could become a new interleague rivalry, and Houston has been a National League team for 50 seasons now. I would like to see the Astros get much better looking uniforms however. The ones they had in the late 70s, say what you will, but I loved them, and also the ones in the late 90s.

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Unnecessary?

I think a one-game Wild Card play-in would be :censored: ing amazing. Can't wait.

Really?

Look at this year... that incredible, greatest day of regular season baseball of all time would have been absolutely irrelevant with a one-game playoff.

In years where it's a lot less close, I really don't like the idea of one game being the reason why a team several games back keeps to get going forward, while the team that has clearly shown themselves to be superior over the previous 162 doesn't, all due to the amazing flukish things that can happen over 9 innings.

I like the advent of having 2 wild card teams, a 5 seed playing at a 4 seed, but having it be only a 1 game play-in game. Yes, the end of this 2011 regular season was beyond incredible. It's extremely unlike to happen again, so that's one reason I am in favor of the 1 game wildcard play-in game. It would require those play-in teams to perhaps use their best starting pitcher, and give them an added disadvantage in the LDS round. It would also compel teams who are in 2nd place to A. try harder to win the division to avoid having to play the 1 game play-in game, and B. teams would want to fight til the end for a better record, if they wind up being the 4 seed to host a 5 seed. As it is, if you get a team that's already wrapped up a playoff berth, they just kind of "coast". 2011 Phillies are a prime example of that. They dropped 4 in a row to the crappy Washington Nationals, but turned it on to sweep the Braves and eliminate Atlanta from the playoffs. Ironic to think the team the Phillies helped out would be the very same team that would help the Phillies out....of the post-season that is...

1 game Wildcard play in game, all for it, absolutely. LDS best of 5, LCS and World Series still the best of 7. I never understood the argument in favor of extending the 1st round to the best 4 out of 7. I prefer it this way. The one thing I would like to see changed is the wild card team would play the top seeded team, regardless of whether they are in the same division or not. As for the possibility of realignment in 2013, I'd prefer to see the D'Backs move to the AL West, and move the Houston Astros to the NL West. This way Texas & Houston would have a natural interleague rivalry, Colorado & Arizona could become a new interleague rivalry, and Houston has been a National League team for 50 seasons now. I would like to see the Astros get much better looking uniforms however. The ones they had in the late 70s, say what you will, but I loved them, and also the ones in the late 90s.

Although I don't really agree with you on the playoff format. I do kind of agree with you on the re-alignment front. It should be one of the 3 NL Recent expansion teams. I still don't understand that only one went to the AL when expansion happened in the 90's. Thus setting up the move of the Brewers to the NL as well? Though I'm loving that last fact right now. The NL has had two more teams than the AL. If it was a half arsed way of creating competitive balance between the leagues, I don't buy it. It seems so lopsided as it is. 16-14 in favor of the NL, doesn't make sense. Moving Colorado or Arizona to the AL West makes the most sense, then moving Houston to the NL West, balancing things out. If the Rangers can be in the AL West, there is no reason Houston couldn't be in the NL West.

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Baseball just isn't a sport where a best of one works very well.

End of the season tiebreaker is one thing, but I wouldn't want to see a postseason series decided on one game. I wouldn't mind seeing a best of three in the LDS, but that's it. I'm not really complaining much about the MLB postseason other then I think the TV networks have too much control over who plays when. For the LDS series especially no series should be allowed to have more then two or three night games.

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Best of 3 Wild Card Play-In

Best of 5 LDS

Best of 7 LCS

Best of 9 World Series

I can dream, can't I?

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Best of 3 LDS

Best of 5 LCS

Best of 9 World Series

I can dream, can't I?

I think the seven game LCS series is here to stay, but the best of 9 in the World Seires may happen. I know the MLB was considering it a few years back and it has historical precedence. I don't expect it to happen tomorrow, but I could picture it happening 10 years from now. I don't think it will, but its not something I would say won't happen either.

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Best of 3 Wild Card Play-In

Best of 5 LDS

Best of 7 LCS

Best of 9 World Series

I can dream, can't I?

The only change I would make to that would be to keep a 7-game world series

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Tony Francona is actually doing a good job commentating tonight, and Buck is a much better Baseball guy.

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Best of 3 Wild Card Play-In

Best of 5 LDS

Best of 7 LCS

Best of 9 World Series

I can dream, can't I?

If that happened, we might see December baseball.

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Best of 3 Wild Card Play-In

Best of 5 LDS

Best of 7 LCS

Best of 9 World Series

I can dream, can't I?

If that happened, we might see December baseball.

Or you could just start the playoffs a week or two earlier...

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