Rockstar Matt Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 If you guys want to see parity, you're in the wrong league. The NBA has never known parity. Some of the greatest teams of all-time have been teams with three great players, (for example: Showtime Lakers, Magic, Kareem, and Worthy. Three hall-fame players on the same team. And the 80's Celtics also three great players with Bird being the best of them). The NBA needs dominate teams from major markets. If all Stern has to worry about from trading CP3 to the Lakers is the media giving him CP3 will be traded to tomorrow if that's the case. The money he, and the NBA, would get from having the Lakers and Heat playing each other in the Finals multiple times would be staggering.If any guys want to see parity, and "teams" winning championships, look no further than the NFL. Football is the ultimate team game. Basketball needs teams with big stars to make money. The NFL just needs to have games played to make money. Cowboys - Lakers - LAFC - USMNT - LA Rams - LA Kings - NUFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigga Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 They should have a separate league branch for Big 3 teams only. On January 16, 2013 at 3:49 PM, NJTank said: Btw this is old hat for Notre Dame. Knits Rockne made up George Tip's death bed speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lights Out Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 The problem is, the NBA just put the fans through an embarrassing lockout under the premise that there would be increased competitive balance (PARITY) in the league. Trading the superstars to the same old teams that have always been gifted superstars would ruin any chance of goodwill with the fans, after all the game cancellations and heated rhetoric that went down over the summer and into the fall. If the NBA is truly serious about selling competitive balance, they simply cannot trade Paul to the Lakers. Sure, if they do so, Stern will still make money off diehard NBA fans and a smattering of bandwagon-jumpers, but he'll have torpedoed any chance of drawing in new serious fans or enticing old fans who stopped watching.Granted, I think it's a moot point, because the Lakers' potential trade assets for either Paul or Howard aren't as good as other teams', and the league still has to put out a product that has a future so that they can find a buyer for the Hornets. POTD: 2/4/12 3/4/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floydnimrod Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 I'd love to see Paul go to the Clippers, and Howard to the Nets. Provided they have to leave their original clubs. I think it could create some new faces so to speak as contenders. I would love to see a Clippers-Thunder Western Conference Finals in the next couple of years. Mancakes: The Bandhttps://twitter.com/FloydNimrod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockstar Matt Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 The problem is, the NBA just put the fans through an embarrassing lockout under the premise that there would be increased competitive balance (PARITY) in the league. Trading the superstars to the same old teams that have always been gifted superstars would ruin any chance of goodwill with the fans, after all the game cancellations and heated rhetoric that went down over the summer and into the fall. If the NBA is truly serious about selling competitive balance, they simply cannot trade Paul to the Lakers. Sure, if they do so, Stern will still make money off diehard NBA fans and a smattering of bandwagon-jumpers, but he'll have torpedoed any chance of drawing in new serious fans or enticing old fans who stopped watching.Granted, I think it's a moot point, because the Lakers' potential trade assets for either Paul or Howard aren't as good as other teams', and the league still has to put out a product that has a future so that they can find a buyer for the Hornets.Very true. If the NBA, I mean, Hornets traded Paul to the Lakers they will have undone everything the lockout was suppose to have accomplished.Dwight wants to be a Laker. He's going to come here no matter what, in my opinion. Whether it's though trade or free agency. I don't think it is very likely the we land CP3 as well, but if we can, I want the Lakers to do it. But, if the Lakers don't get Paul, I'd like to see the Clippers get him. That'd be one of the most-fun teams to watch. Paul and Blake could pick and roll opposing teams to death. Also, then we'd be closer to seeing my dream West Final match-up of Lakers-Clippers (It will happen one day, I swear). Cowboys - Lakers - LAFC - USMNT - LA Rams - LA Kings - NUFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_ThenNowForever Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Remember when the Lakers signed Gary Payton and Karl Malone and got stomped in the Finals? And remember when the Heat signed LeBron James and Chris Bosh and also got beat real bad? NBA All-Star teams sound cool on paper, but don't always actually work out. For every Pierce/Garnett/Allen Celtics, there's a Mavs or Spurs team or two winning with team fundamentals. 1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said: and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lights Out Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 If you want a superteam to work, the players' games have to complement each other. That's why the Celtics' and Spurs' Big Threes were successful. (Yes, I count Parker/Ginobli/Duncan as a Big Three, albeit a totally-drafted one.) However, I could go either way on the Heat. Maybe they'll eventually figure out how to make their games complement each other, but right now, they have two high-usage players fighting for touches, and Bosh.To use the Clippers' rumors as an example, I think a Paul/Gordon/Griffin Big Three would work nicely. A Paul/Griffin/Howard Big Three? Not so much... unless Griffin and Howard could work out a way not to clog the lane for each other. POTD: 2/4/12 3/4/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGooo Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Paul/Gordon/Griffin Big ThreeThat's a big 2 1/2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lights Out Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Eric Gordon is underrated, IMO. I think he'll have a breakout year. POTD: 2/4/12 3/4/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanMcD29 Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 OK, seriously, what was the point of the lockout again? I thought the new CBA was intended to put a stop to this "Big 3" crap when the lockout began. Now it's just back to the way it was: trade and sign and these big 3 teams. Twitter: @RyanMcD29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigga Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 OK, seriously, what was the point of the lockout again? I thought the new CBA was intended to put a stop to this "Big 3" crap when the lockout began. Now it's just back to the way it was: trade and sign and these big 3 teams.The point of the lockout was for the owners to guarantee they would make money. Simple as that. Player movement will be more restricted, but things will be eased in this year and next...you'll really start to see big differences in year three. On January 16, 2013 at 3:49 PM, NJTank said: Btw this is old hat for Notre Dame. Knits Rockne made up George Tip's death bed speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGooo Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Eric Gordon is underrated, IMO. I think he'll have a breakout year.I used to really like Eric Gordon, until I went to a Clippers-Warriors game a few years ago and he lit it up. Probably had close to 40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Remember when the Lakers signed Gary Payton and Karl Malone and got stomped in the Finals? And remember when the Heat signed LeBron James and Chris Bosh and also got beat real bad? NBA All-Star teams sound cool on paper, but don't always actually work out. For every Pierce/Garnett/Allen Celtics, there's a Mavs or Spurs team or two winning with team fundamentals.Yet they still got all the way to the Finals. So, again, what's the point of even watching? On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 If you don't like when really good athletes are really good at their sport, watch another sport. Enough. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninersdd Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Just curious, but did the signings of Payton and Malone that year make a difference at all? I mean they were like 35 and 40. BEAR DOWN ARIZONA!2013/14 Tanks Picks Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CS85 Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Just curious, but did the signings of Payton and Malone that year make a difference at all that year? I mean they were like 35 and 40. The Payton/Malone signings were their final desperate attempt to win a title. Paul and Howard are at the cusp of their primes. If you don't like when really good athletes are really good at their sport, watch another sport. Enough. What? Quote "You are nothing more than a small cancer on this message board. You are not entertaining, you are a complete joke." twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 All this "WAH THEY GET ALL THE GOOD PLAYERS AND WIN ALL THEIR GAMES" crap. Sick of it. Basketball isn't supposed to be a crapshoot. The game isn't built for that. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_ThenNowForever Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 The NBA is different than the other major sports. It really only takes one or two good players to make a team competitive. Add three or four really good role players, and you're near championship material. That good players prefer to play with good players seems almost natural. That good teams only having room for a couple good players forces marginally good players to settle for second-tier teams also seems natural. Yes, the Lakers are good nearly every year. But some years they're not. And the Bucks and Nets might be bad most years, but some years they make the conference or NBA Finals. Generally though, the NBA is far more of a narrative sport than baseball, football or hockey. Because the players are so visible and because they generally stay good for as long as they do, there isn't nearly as much league turnover as in other sports. It's the agreement you make to the league when you become a fan. And if you live in Milwaukee, you get to see LeBron twice a year and Kobe once. That's not bad. 1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said: and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CS85 Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Fair enough. I'm still going to wish ill on teams that compile the star trinity. Quote "You are nothing more than a small cancer on this message board. You are not entertaining, you are a complete joke." twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Frankly, the idea of an NBA where there's only about as much separation as there is in the NHL is horrifying. A game in which your best player accounts for at least one-sixth of the team's minutes, not to mention that your best player is often way better than everyone else in the game, eliminates a whole lot of randomness. That's the good and bad of pro basketball. Don't get me wrong, I root for the Heat's demise while hoping that the Bulls can win with their approach, but I'd rather have the big bad Heat alongside totally worthless teams than a big blob of sorta-contenders. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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