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So the Braves follow up their September collapse by....making no real moves. They're paying Lowe to pitch for Cleveland and finally rid themselves of McClouth.

They'll be alright if folks don't get hurt. And if Jason Heyward remembers how to hit the ball. And Chipper doesn't, like, die.

Yea, but by doing those things they improved their team. :-)

A lot of Braves fans are a little concerned by the lack of moves made, but the truth is we had the team to win last year and with the came group returning, have a great chance to not only get in the playoffs but win the division.

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I'm the type of person who, like Kamerica, almost never misses my team's games.

Amazing that you're able to keep up with four different games per night. :rolleyes:

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So the Braves follow up their September collapse by....making no real moves. They're paying Lowe to pitch for Cleveland and finally rid themselves of McClouth.

They'll be alright if folks don't get hurt. And if Jason Heyward remembers how to hit the ball. And Chipper doesn't, like, die.

Yea, but by doing those things they improved their team. :-)

A lot of Braves fans are a little concerned by the lack of moves made, but the truth is we had the team to win last year and with the came group returning, have a great chance to not only get in the playoffs but win the division.

Yeah, I'm not sweating this at all. It pretty much took a perfect storm of bad luck, injuries, & statistical demons catching up with them for that collapse to happen. Other than the new batting coach & the addition by subtraction, they really didn't NEED to make any moves (and probably couldn't anyways since Liberty Media set a payroll of $94M for the season...). As long as they avoid the pitfalls that felled them at the end of last season, they should be just fine going into the season.

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I've always held a distinction between the Red Sox and Braves ends of the season.

Atlanta struggled in the final month, but given the way the Cardinals finished the season, it really was a matter of them getting red hot at the right time, not the Braves embarking on an epic collapse.

Boston went 7-20 in September with a 1-6 record against Tampa and a 2-5 record against friggen Baltimore. The Rays did not light the world on fire in September - if they didn't catch the Yankees at the tail end of the season when they had nothing on the line, they probably would've missed the playoffs.

NL - great comeback

AL - great collapse

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Whoever buys the Mets, the first thing that needs to. Be done is tear down the house that Madoff built (a.k.a Wilpon's Folly, CitiDump), and build a new Shea Stadium!

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Well since the Twins are going to suck this year, can anybody persuade me to a back up team?

No Yankees, Mets, Indians, White Sox, Braves, Phillies, Dodgers, Rays.

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Well since the Twins are going to suck this year, can anybody persuade me to a back up team?

No Yankees, Mets, Indians, White Sox, Braves, Phillies, Dodgers, Rays.

I'm surprised no Rays. They seem to be a popular team to bandwagon these days.

How about the Brewers?

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Hopefully that bandwagon is trailing off by now.

The Rays are not all that likeable a team - they just seem like it with the whole "little engine that could vs. big market bullies" factor.

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Well since the Twins are going to suck this year, can anybody persuade me to a back up team?

No Yankees, Mets, Indians, White Sox, Braves, Phillies, Dodgers, Rays.

Look no further than investing your new-found fandom in the Washington Nationals, who have a tremendous upside this season than in years past!

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Well since the Twins are going to suck this year, can anybody persuade me to a back up team?

No Yankees, Mets, Indians, White Sox, Braves, Phillies, Dodgers, Rays.

The Red Sox. They suck again, so you're not bandwaggoning.

I'm just kidding. The Nationals. They're my NL team. Nice stadium, great prospects and a bright future.

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Brewers are going to suck too, I could go with the Nationals or Rangers, but I dont really like Hamilton.

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Whoever buys the Mets, the first thing that needs to. Be done is tear down the house that Madoff built (a.k.a Wilpon's Folly, CitiDump), and build a new Shea Stadium!

That seems like a practical decision. Am I the only person that love Citi Field? Probably an unpopular opinion, but it's one of my favorite ballparks in baseball.

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Whoever buys the Mets, the first thing that needs to. Be done is tear down the house that Madoff built (a.k.a Wilpon's Folly, CitiDump), and build a new Shea Stadium!

That seems like a practical decision. Am I the only person that love Citi Field? Probably an unpopular opinion, but it's one of my favorite ballparks in baseball.

I saw them play the Tigers two summers ago and loved it. It's different, no doubt, but still a beautiful ballpark. Why in the world anyone would want the dump that was Shea over that place is beyond my understanding. In fact, I've heard people say the same thing about Yankee Stadium too, which is even more crazy. History be damned, both of those places we're nothing but garbage bins by the time they were closed and they both got terrific replacements.

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Whoever buys the Mets, the first thing that needs to. Be done is tear down the house that Madoff built (a.k.a Wilpon's Folly, CitiDump), and build a new Shea Stadium!

That seems like a practical decision. Am I the only person that love Citi Field? Probably an unpopular opinion, but it's one of my favorite ballparks in baseball.

People knock it because its trying too much to be like Ebbetts Field, which I think is deserved for a team that's struggled to gain their own image, but its not a bad ballpark on its own.

To be fair as well there have been alot of changes made to the park since its been opened, so while certainly the lack of Mets history could be legit criticism when it first opened, I don't know how much that can be said now. They have a Met HOF, banners of past Mets greats everywhere, the original apple is right outside, the retired numbers and banners are very visible. Its gotten alot better since it opened in that regard.

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Well since the Twins are going to suck this year, can anybody persuade me to a back up team?

No Yankees, Mets, Indians, White Sox, Braves, Phillies, Dodgers, Rays.

Marlins or Rangers. Both teams(the Rangers hopefully) will have a great 2012. The Marlins get a new stadium, their best offseason in their history, and the Rangers are 2-time defending AL Champs.

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So the Braves follow up their September collapse by....making no real moves. They're paying Lowe to pitch for Cleveland and finally rid themselves of McClouth.

They'll be alright if folks don't get hurt. And if Jason Heyward remembers how to hit the ball. And Chipper doesn't, like, die.

Yea, but by doing those things they improved their team. :-)

A lot of Braves fans are a little concerned by the lack of moves made, but the truth is we had the team to win last year and with the came group returning, have a great chance to not only get in the playoffs but win the division.

Yeah, I'm not sweating this at all. It pretty much took a perfect storm of bad luck, injuries, & statistical demons catching up with them for that collapse to happen. Other than the new batting coach & the addition by subtraction, they really didn't NEED to make any moves (and probably couldn't anyways since Liberty Media set a payroll of $94M for the season...). As long as they avoid the pitfalls that felled them at the end of last season, they should be just fine going into the season.

So much of the possibility of the Braves having success hinges on everything going right. Too much depends on everyone staying healthy and performing at their peak levels.

I'm confident in that Freddie Freeman will improve upon his rookie season (although he had a cold September) and that McCann and Bourn will continue to do their thing. I'm somewhat confident that Uggla can't have as lousy a start to this season as he had last year. I'm confident that Hudson will be reliable as usual.

I'm not confident in Chipper, Prado, Jurrjens, and Hanson staying healthy. I'm not confident in Heyward getting his head out of his ass (to me, he's got Francoeur written all over him). I'm not confident in Freddi Gonzalez not burning out the bullpen by September. I'm not confident in getting any sort of quality production from the SS position.

The Braves are built to win a bunch of 3-2 (or lower-scoring) games. They simply don't have the offensive pop to out-score the better offensive teams or hit the better pitchers.

The Braves have so much pitching depth. Time to start using that towards trades to improve the team now. Give the fans a reason to get excited about a team who's current image is blowing an 8-game lead with about 25 games to play.

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So the Braves follow up their September collapse by....making no real moves. They're paying Lowe to pitch for Cleveland and finally rid themselves of McClouth.

They'll be alright if folks don't get hurt. And if Jason Heyward remembers how to hit the ball. And Chipper doesn't, like, die.

Yea, but by doing those things they improved their team. :-)

A lot of Braves fans are a little concerned by the lack of moves made, but the truth is we had the team to win last year and with the came group returning, have a great chance to not only get in the playoffs but win the division.

Yeah, I'm not sweating this at all. It pretty much took a perfect storm of bad luck, injuries, & statistical demons catching up with them for that collapse to happen. Other than the new batting coach & the addition by subtraction, they really didn't NEED to make any moves (and probably couldn't anyways since Liberty Media set a payroll of $94M for the season...). As long as they avoid the pitfalls that felled them at the end of last season, they should be just fine going into the season.

So much of the possibility of the Braves having success hinges on everything going right. Too much depends on everyone staying healthy and performing at their peak levels.

I'm confident in that Freddie Freeman will improve upon his rookie season (although he had a cold September) and that McCann and Bourn will continue to do their thing. I'm somewhat confident that Uggla can't have as lousy a start to this season as he had last year. I'm confident that Hudson will be reliable as usual.

I'm not confident in Chipper, Prado, Jurrjens, and Hanson staying healthy. I'm not confident in Heyward getting his head out of his ass (to me, he's got Francoeur written all over him). I'm not confident in Freddi Gonzalez not burning out the bullpen by September. I'm not confident in getting any sort of quality production from the SS position.

The Braves are built to win a bunch of 3-2 (or lower-scoring) games. They simply don't have the offensive pop to out-score the better offensive teams or hit the better pitchers.

The Braves have so much pitching depth. Time to start using that towards trades to improve the team now. Give the fans a reason to get excited about a team who's current image is blowing an 8-game lead with about 25 games to play.

The Braves have an interesting team as about 90%(this is my own made up number) of their team is under 28. I think the fact that they are so young and that they competed in the NL East for so long last year, it gives people almost a false hope. They are a good solid young team, and they can only get better as far as im concerned. Health is a concern with this team with Jurjens and Heyward, but they are definitely heading in the right direction.

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That's true, but in totality, they actually regressed in 2011 compared to what they did in 2010 ,when, with team littered with injuries, they nearly took out the Giants in the playoffs.

And with the Nats upward progression and the Marlins going about the off-season as if they were the Yankees, not to mention the Phillies are still very good, and it will be a hard go of it for the Braves in 2012. Should make for a fun race.

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The NL East was already tough and now will probably go into 2012 as the most improved division as well.

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