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Oh yeah... definitely looks like a homophobic slur to me. I'm not sure how that's not conclusive enough to punish him.

He won't be punished at all and GLAAD is pissed.

http://sports.nationalpost.com/2011/09/27/simmonds-wont-be-punished-for-alleged-slur/

I kind of agree though to an extent. If Simmonds had just come up to Sean Avery and said that out of nowhere, it would be a different story, but obviously this was not an unprovoked remark. I also think Avery shot himself in the foot because A. he's Sean Avery and B. becuase he made such a big deal over it following the game, it may have wound up hurting his own cause. It certainly didn't help it. He comes off looking like a tattle tale who got in three shots before the other guy got in one, and then ran straight to the teacher as soon as it happened. Obviously he was not an innocent party in this.

Didn't need to go to the media about it, but he wanted to draw attention to himslef and make it as big of a deal as possible.

I'm sure Simmonds get something behind the scenes to the effect of make sure something like this doesen't happen again, but as a point of reference Kobe got a one game suspension and a $100K fine for what he said earlier in the year and that was an unprovoked incident. So I think that is standard by which athletes as punished for this type of incident. Your not going to be able to give somebody any worse punishment then that unless a fan is involved.

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Did we make fun of the St. Louis Blues yet for choosing "Don't Stop Believing" as their 2012 team slogan when THAT IS THE SONG YOUR RIVAL THE DETROIT RED WINGS PLAY WHEN THEY'RE ABOUT TO WIN A HOME GAME, YOU TONE-DEAF RUBES. What, you couldn't fit "Doot do-do-doot do-do-doot do-do doody-oody doot" on a billboard? Dopes. Never win anything.

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Campbell said they couldn't prove he said it despite the video evidence...

That may be a mistake on the part of the NHL because he clearly did.

Now if you want to say that yes he did, but this was not an incident like Kobe where it was an innocent party being attacked, that's another story, and I think that's what the NHL did view it as.

On the other hand though Sean Avery is a major spokesman for GLAAD, and it may not look good on the NHL to try to paint Sean Avery as someone who instigates these types of incidents. I think anyone who knows anything about sports and about Sean Avery is certain that is what happened, but the people that don't watch hockey and don't know much about Sean Avery's history really aren't going to care. They're view is Simmonds should be punished no matter what Sean Avery may or may not have said/done to him. The problem with that is now your setting a precedent where your saying if you call someone a :censored: no matter what they did to you, they get off scot free and you pay the price. That may or may not have been what Sean Avery was trying to see if he could do. I don't think there's anything that guy won't try to get an advantage.

So the NHL may have felt they were better served by looking stupid then trying to get into a political correctness battle with a group such as GLAAD that they aren't going to win. I don't know what the case was, but you can't tell me politics weren't involved somehow in the way the NHL handled this.

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Just flat-out calling someone a fag is actually pretty tame as far as in-game trash talk goes. Doesn't make it right, but all this speaking in hushed tones over the hurtful things athletes say is really rather contrived.

This right here.

Hell go to any pick up basketball, hockey, football, baseball, soccer, whatever game. Or even literally any organized sport at any level from high school and above. These type of things go on everywhere. Like admiral said, it's not exactly right for it to go on, but it goes on all the time in all areas of sports.

Admiral said it best earlier on this page too (much props to ya admiral haha), it's aggressive males trying to assert themselves over other aggressive males, and one way to do that is try and demean them by calling them homosexual slurs. Not right, but that's just the nature of it. Almost everyone does it.

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Gay slurs are wrong, but I'm not sure how reasonable it is not to budget for hyper-aggressive males engaged in competition suggesting that their opponents are not hyper-aggressive males.

Anyone who suggests that a gay man can't be "hyper-aggressive" doesn't really know any gay men.

Which is exactly why homophobic slurs are as wrong as racist slurs.

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Anyone who suggests that a gay man can't be "hyper-aggressive" doesn't really know any gay men.

Well, of course, which makes the whole thing silly, but that's not going to stop anyone from doing it. I'd add that it's not accurate to draw a straight line between racial/ethnic slurs and gay slurs because gay slurs have a separate currency as all-purpose insults between guys that racial slurs simply do not have. People can call each other stupid fags and not say or mean it as anything particularly malicious. Not so much with calling someone a stupid n-gger. Again, not right, but that's where we are. I mean, I'm pret-ty sure I don't harbor hatred for gay people, but I've called someone a "worthless sally" and not really felt like I was engaging in hate speech, so.

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THIS IS DETROIT'S SONG YOU STUPID GITS.

Think it got put into general domain after it became the offical theme song of happy hour.

Its a good song as well, but if I never heard it again I'd be okay with that because its long since been ruined for me. That may very well be the most overplayed song in the world. I don't think I've been to a bar with a jukebox on a Friday or Saturday night where that song wasn't played at some point.

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