bucknut40 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 What will the Marlins do after Ozzie Guillens comments about Fidel Castro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEW.ERA Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Daniel Tosh has been having fun with this on Twitter all morning. Some of them are gold! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMac12 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Especially in South Beach with a big Cuban population, this will have huge ramification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucknut40 Posted April 9, 2012 Author Share Posted April 9, 2012 Especially in South Beach with a big Cuban population, this will have huge ramification.Exactly anywhere else it is not as big of story, but when you do it in Miami I wonder what is he thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedy Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Oh, Ozzie Guillen said something off-color? Shocking.This guy doesn't bow down to anybody, always says what's on his mind. There's something to be said for that. Baseball needs more character guys like him. Let him talk. So he likes Fidel, great. He's not Hitler and McCarthy kicked the bucket a long time ago, who cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the admiral Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 It doesn't matter that Castro isn't Hitler. You'd have to be a complete drunken idiot, which it so happens that Ozzie Guillen is, to go to Miami and say "Fidel Castro was great." It's not as bad as "Hitler had some good ideas" or whatever MargeSchott90 said, but it's still incredibly tone-deaf considering they hired Ozzie Guillen to draw Hispanic fans and he just alienated the largest Hispanic minority in Miami.While I agree that baseball needs more colorful characters, I don't know that it really needs Ozzie anymore. Ozzie fails to make the distinction between Telling It Like It Is and just rattling off whatever is going through his head at a given moment. One is fun, the other just wears your ass out after a while.The interesting wild card here is that even though the Marlins really sought him out, they're still run by Jeff Loria, who literally fired Joe Girardi for looking at him the wrong way. He doesn't have his make-believe daddy Reinsdorf to mollycoddle him and gladly suffer his foolishness anymore. I won't be shocked if he can't finish out the year and just goes away forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayJaxon Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Baseball does NOT need more idiots like Ozzie in the game. He is a media whore that only cares about himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mings Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Personally, I'm waiting for the Guillen/Zambrano cage match that is bound to happen at some point this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMac12 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Personally, I'm waiting for the Guillen/Zambrano cage match that is bound to happen at some point this year.PPV, perchance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Ozzie Guillen has no filter and he is often putting his foot in his mouth, but I think what he said just came out wrong and if the Marlins want a good manager they will let it roll past them as Ozzie being Ozzie. He has spoken out against Chavez in the past so I dont think he really loves Castro any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OchentaYOcho88 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 I tend to think that the context of what Ozzie said may have been lost. Either TIME Magazine misquoted, he made a mistake using his second language or his sarcasm was lost somewhere from interview to print. It wouldn't be the first time someone said something off color in a sarcastic way and it being lost in print. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDR Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 In a related story, Robin Ventura hasn't said anything remotely interesting yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmoehrin Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 The only thing that I could see Ozzie Guillen being guilty of was being politically incorrect. As long as its not racist or derogatory I don't think anyone should be suspended or fined for making a comment like that.I would also say see Magglio Ordonez if you want to hear about somebody making controversial political statements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infrared41 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 In a related story, Robin Ventura hasn't said anything remotely interesting yet.OK, that cracked me up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aci Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 I think he was probably trying to say something that the Miami Cuban population would approve of, but forgot to consider why Miami Cubans aren't Cuban Cubans anymore.I'm sure a lot of Cubans still in Cuba love Castro, but the ones that left are for the most part anti-Castro. Not exclusively, but for the most part. I'm going to just write this off as Ozzie being ignorant.There also seems to be quite a gulf between what Americans think of Castro and Cuba and what other countries (especially Canada) think of Cuba. I dated a girl for almost 3 years whose father was born and raised in Cuba, and not only has he never said anything bad about being there, but they trained him as a pilot. For free. My sister's mother-in-law also remarried to a Cuban man about ten years ago, and goes to Cuba twice a year to visit his family and friends for weeks at a time. The people there might not have all the amenities of Canada or the US, but they are quite happy. The stresses of life are so much less in Cuba; you don't have to ever worry about where your next meal is coming from, or if you can afford to put your kids through school. that appeals to some people, and doesn't appeal to others. The ones who don't like it leave, which is why the Miami Cubans are so anti-Castro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coast2CoastAM2006 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 well this should reduce the marlins fan base by about 76%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illwauk Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 well this should reduce the marlins fan base by about 76%.So that's, what, 100 people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 It doesn't matter that Castro isn't Hitler. You'd have to be a complete drunken idiot, which it so happens that Ozzie Guillen is, to go to Miami and say "Fidel Castro was great." if Guillen had said that. Which he didn't. I happen to think that the guy's a clown, but let's keep what he said in context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CS85 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 And people are surprised by this why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 And people are surprised by this why?Nobody who's ever even heard his name before should be surprised, except possibly that it took this long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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