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Okay...at this point I got to question whether or not you really are a high school teacher or whether you were just blowing smoke up our asses. How the hell do you expect us to believe you really educate teenagers when the maturity level of your posts reads as a teenager?

Most expect a certain level of decorum from those entrusted to be educators...just saying.

Well, remember that he also wants to date teenagers, so he has to operate on their wavelength.

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For all the bird de lis haters I think the bird de lis isnt supposed to be a pelican and a fleur de lis I think its just a fleur de lis with a pelicans head. Thats what it looks like to me. Also the flair around the tip of the beak is just flair that fleur de lis have sometimes source I am from NOLA.

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Your overall ignorance of the sport is showing (Though loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooogodud still doesn't have a case). It IS part of the strategy of the end of basketball games, at all levels.

It's part of the rules, but is not an irremovable part. And it makes for plodding, dull finishes to close games that should be frantic and exciting.

But it's the same thing as kneeling in football or intentionally walking in baseball. It's a fabric of the strategy of the game and it's seen at all levels no matter which gender. And at least in the levels below the NBA, and even in the NBA if it's a poor FT shooter, free throws can be some of the most tense moments in the entire game

Kneeling and walking aren't penalties. I see the action on the court as the true spirit of the game. It's nice that intentional fouling is there on all levels, but that's beside my point. I've already stated how I'd prefer to see the ends of games play out, so repeating it would just be belaboring it. It changes into a different game at the end, really, and I'd rather see a more frantic version of what we've been watching than guys standing around watching free throws.

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Your overall ignorance of the sport is showing (Though loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooogodud still doesn't have a case). It IS part of the strategy of the end of basketball games, at all levels.

It's part of the rules, but is not an irremovable part. And it makes for plodding, dull finishes to close games that should be frantic and exciting.

But it's the same thing as kneeling in football or intentionally walking in baseball. It's a fabric of the strategy of the game and it's seen at all levels no matter which gender. And at least in the levels below the NBA, and even in the NBA if it's a poor FT shooter, free throws can be some of the most tense moments in the entire game

Kneeling and walking aren't penalties. I see the action on the court as the true spirit of the game. It's nice that intentional fouling is there on all levels, but that's beside my point. I've already stated how I'd prefer to see the ends of games play out, so repeating it would just be belaboring it. It changes into a different game at the end, really, and I'd rather see a more frantic version of what we've been watching than guys standing around watching free throws.

And what, pray tell, is going to stop a team with a 2 or 3 possession lead from just holding the basketball until the shot clock is about to expire inside of 2 minutes? Besides fouling, that is.

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You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now.
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Your overall ignorance of the sport is showing (Though loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooogodud still doesn't have a case). It IS part of the strategy of the end of basketball games, at all levels.

It's part of the rules, but is not an irremovable part. And it makes for plodding, dull finishes to close games that should be frantic and exciting.

But it's the same thing as kneeling in football or intentionally walking in baseball. It's a fabric of the strategy of the game and it's seen at all levels no matter which gender. And at least in the levels below the NBA, and even in the NBA if it's a poor FT shooter, free throws can be some of the most tense moments in the entire game

Kneeling and walking aren't penalties. I see the action on the court as the true spirit of the game. It's nice that intentional fouling is there on all levels, but that's beside my point. I've already stated how I'd prefer to see the ends of games play out, so repeating it would just be belaboring it. It changes into a different game at the end, really, and I'd rather see a more frantic version of what we've been watching than guys standing around watching free throws.

And what, pray tell, is going to stop a team with a 2 or 3 possession lead from just holding the basketball until the shot clock is about to expire inside of 2 minutes? Besides fouling, that is.

This. Basketball would have a stall tactic just as annoying and boring as the one found in lacrosse the final two minutes if that were the case

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As we argue about hating LeBron James in the other thread, it should be mentioned that no other league demands that you accept "greatness" like the NBA does. I acknowledged that Albert Pujols in his prime was a once-in-a-lifetime player; that didn't mean I didn't want him to strike out every time he faced the Cubs (or really anyone), despite the fact that this would rob me of "witnessing his greatness." The idea that it's somehow out of line not to sit where you're told and behold what's in front of you is unique here.

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As we argue about hating LeBron James in the other thread, it should be mentioned that no other league demands that you accept "greatness" like the NBA does. I acknowledged that Albert Pujols in his prime was a once-in-a-lifetime player; that didn't mean I didn't want him to strike out every time he faced the Cubs (or really anyone), despite the fact that this would rob me of "witnessing his greatness." The idea that it's somehow out of line not to sit where you're told and behold what's in front of you is unique here.

That is a great point.

 

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No other sport has legions of fans devoted to bashing one player reflexively. Sure, teams get dumped on in every sport, but there aren't any equivalents to LeBron haters AFAIK in the NFL, MLB, or NHL.

There's also a big difference between rooting for someone to mess up or perform badly so your team can win and rooting for someone to always fail whether it affects your team or not just because you don't like them.

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No other sport has legions of fans devoted to bashing one player reflexively. Sure, teams get dumped on in every sport, but there aren't any equivalents to LeBron haters AFAIK in the NFL, MLB, or NHL.

There's also a big difference between rooting for someone to mess up or perform badly so your team can win and rooting for someone to always fail whether it affects your team or not just because you don't like them.

I think effectively Yankee's haters are an equivalent of LeBron haters, it's just that in basketball, so much of a teams' success is judged to be on the leader of that team's shoulders. So much of the antipathy towards James is about how he arrogantly shipped off to Miami to look for titles. It's made it very easy to root against him. (I don't think James ever had as much hatred fired at him whilst with the Cavaliers.)

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No other sport has legions of fans devoted to bashing one player reflexively. Sure, teams get dumped on in every sport, but there aren't any equivalents to LeBron haters AFAIK in the NFL, MLB, or NHL.

There's also a big difference between rooting for someone to mess up or perform badly so your team can win and rooting for someone to always fail whether it affects your team or not just because you don't like them.

I think effectively Yankee's haters are an equivalent of LeBron haters, it's just that in basketball, so much of a teams' success is judged to be on the leader of that team's shoulders. So much of the antipathy towards James is about how he arrogantly shipped of to Miami to look for titles. It's made it very easy to route against him. (I don't think James ever had as much hatred fired at him whilst with the Cavaliers.)

I think saintsfan hit the nail on the head here. No doubt, some were turned off by the whole "We Are All Witnesses ©" thing when Bron was in Cleveland, but I think the hate he gets now has much more to do with his codifying the "SuperTeam" trend in the NBA.

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"Arrogant" is about the last word I'd use to describe LeBron going to Miami. It took humility for him to admit he needed to share the limelight in his prime to win championships. Also, keep in mind that at the time, the Celtics and Lakers had built superteams based on very favorable trades, so there was already a sense that Big Threes were the future. The way LeBron phrased his departure was arrogant I guess, but the act in and of itself was not.

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I think what makes Miami different from the Lakers and Celtics situation is that those were both instances of guys who already had lengthy careers under their belts with no rings to show for it and trying to win one before it was too late. Miami was a case of three guys in the primes of their career trying to take a shortcut towards something guys like Gary Payton, Karl Malone, Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen had put in a career's-worth of effort into accomplishing on their own.

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"Arrogant" is about the last word I'd use to describe LeBron going to Miami. It took humility for him to admit he needed to share the limelight in his prime to win championships. Also, keep in mind that at the time, the Celtics and Lakers had built superteams based on very favorable trades, so there was already a sense that Big Threes were the future. The way LeBron phrased his departure was arrogant I guess, but the act in and of itself was not.

I think it was entirely arrogant, the way he flaunted himself as such a big free agency target, and shipped himself around teams, or at least got his agent to, and then announced it on an ESPN special, to the hoopla surrounding the initial press conference.

And it's impossible to separate the act itself from the manner it took place, in this case.

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"Arrogant" is about the last word I'd use to describe LeBron going to Miami. It took humility for him to admit he needed to share the limelight in his prime to win championships. Also, keep in mind that at the time, the Celtics and Lakers had built superteams based on very favorable trades, so there was already a sense that Big Threes were the future. The way LeBron phrased his departure was arrogant I guess, but the act in and of itself was not.

I think it was entirely arrogant, the way he flaunted himself as such a big free agency target, and shipped himself around teams, or at least got his agent to, and then announced it on an ESPN special, to the hoopla surrounding the initial press conference.

And it's impossible to separate the act itself from the manner it took place, in this case.

Ummm,he refused to tslk about free agency the season before he left.

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I think what makes Miami different from the Lakers and Celtics situation is that those were both instances of guys who already had lengthy careers under their belts with no rings to show for it and trying to win one before it was too late. Miami was a case of three guys in the primes of their career trying to take a shortcut towards something guys like Gary Payton, Karl Malone, Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen had put in a career's-worth of effort into accomplishing on their own.

Yeah becuse it's not like Lebron didn't give the Cavs a full SEVEN seasons to get him proper help or anything :rolleyes:

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Also, people for some reason prefer players to suffer on bad teams for a while. I don't get it.

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I think what makes Miami different from the Lakers and Celtics situation is that those were both instances of guys who already had lengthy careers under their belts with no rings to show for it and trying to win one before it was too late. Miami was a case of three guys in the primes of their career trying to take a shortcut towards something guys like Gary Payton, Karl Malone, Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen had put in a career's-worth of effort into accomplishing on their own.

Seven years is hardly taking a "shortcut." Lebron essentially gave the Cavs almost half of his career. He did "try it on his own." Second, other than the fact that they accomplished it via trade as opposed to free agency, how is what Boston did with Allen and KG any different than what Miami did?

Finally, and this is directed at all the "big three" talk in general, let's stop acting like Jordan, Bird, and Magic won all those rings by themselves. Jordan played with two hall of famers (Pippen and Rodman) and a pretty damned solid supporting cast. People seem to forget just how good guys like Horace Grant, B.J Armstrong, John Paxson, Ron Harper and Bill Cartwright were. No, they weren't "superstars", but every one of those guys could play.

Magic played along side two hall of famers as well (Kareem and Worthy.) The Lakers "other" guards were pretty f-ing good. Byron Scott was a lights out scorer, and Michael Cooper was a lock down defender and a great 3 point shooter. Kurt Rambis was basically a poor man's Dennis Rodman. Over the years those Lakers teams also had bench players like Bob McAddo, Mychal Thompson, etc.

The there's Larry Bird who played with four hall of famers (McHale, Parrish, Walton, Dennis Johnson.) Dennis Johnson was considered by many to be the second best PG in the league behind Magic.

My point being that how every one of the "big three" NBA dynasties (and top three players) were put together is not all that different from what Miami did by signing LBJ and Chris Bosh. None of the aforementioned teams were built through patience and the draft. We need to stop holding the Heat to a higher standard than we hold all the other teams.

 

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There's an arriviste vibe to the Miami Heat and Miami itself that's forever going to rub people the wrong way. The 2008 Celtics were as much an overnight sensation as the 2011 Heat, but got a free pass for being the glorious Boston Celtics. Moreover, the Greater Sports Narrative as infallibly dictated by the Ryan-Shaughnessy-Simmons holy trinity of Boston douchecanoes would have us believe that New Englanders are in some perpetual state of suffering because some people's ancestors were Puritans, some were Catholic, and everyone's soil is of poor and rocky quality, which conveniently serves as a metaphor for all sorts of fundamental adversity over which America's oldest and smartest triumphantly prevail forevermore, and so the success of said glorious Celtics is made to either signify petty relief from deep psychological pain and rocky-soil-tilling, or triumph over it, or both. Miami, though? Pfft, just a bunch of rich, swarthy jerks who get to hang out on the beach and have LeBron James dropped into their laps? What a bunch of jerks.

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Also, people for some reason prefer players to suffer on bad teams for a while. I don't get it.

The nerve of players making decisions to better their careers and quality of life. Next thing you know, the average working-class guy might decide to take a higher-paying job with a rival company, or relocate to a warmer part of the country. F all that nonsense.

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There's an arriviste vibe to the Miami Heat and Miami itself that's forever going to rub people the wrong way. The 2008 Celtics were as much an overnight sensation as the 2011 Heat, but got a free pass for being the glorious Boston Celtics. Moreover, the Greater Sports Narrative as infallibly dictated by the Ryan-Shaughnessy-Simmons holy trinity of Boston douchecanoes would have us believe that New Englanders are in some perpetual state of suffering because some people's ancestors were Puritans, some were Catholic, and everyone's soil is of poor and rocky quality, which conveniently serves as a metaphor for all sorts of fundamental adversity over which America's oldest and smartest triumphantly prevail forevermore, and so the success of said glorious Celtics is made to either signify petty relief from deep psychological pain and rocky-soil-tilling, or triumph over it, or both. Miami, though? Pfft, just a bunch of rich, swarthy jerks who get to hang out on the beach and have LeBron James dropped into their laps? What a bunch of jerks.

Bravo, Major General. Bravo. I especially liked "the Ryan-Shaughnessy-Simmons holy trinity of Boston douchecanoes." "Douchecanoes." Heh. And yeah, I had to look up arriviste. So did most everyone else, but they'll never admit it. B)

 

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