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Who should get their number retired and by which team(s)?

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I would be perfectly ok with the Penguins, for example, never retiring another number again. Jagr's a jerkoff and doesn't deserve it, and good as Crosby and Malkin are, they aren't Mario. And nobody is going to wear their numbers in the future anyway. Hell, no one did before except KONSTANTIN KOLTSOV.

Let's not forget JIRI SLEGR.

I'd be okay with that too, but years from now, when Sid retires, they're gonna hang his 87. This organization has made it abundantly clear that him and Mario are going to be the "big guys" of this organization for a long time. I mean, they made the new arena's capacity 18,087. He's got records (such as youngest captain to win the cup, youngest captain, youngest this, youngest that). The only thing that can prevent this is if Sid's concussion problems force him to either retire or deteriorate as a player significantly in the next few years. That remains to be seen. As for Geno, if he stays here long term and if this past season is any indication of what's to come from him, he could get his number hung here too, but only if he doesn't ship off to somewhere else anytime soon. But that also depends on if he develops a complex over being second fiddle to Sid like Jagr did Mario. Fleury is never getting his number hung anywhere.

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As far as sure-fire (in my opinion, at least) number retirees go, here's a list of current players whose numbers I think will get retired:

Arizona:

Larry Fitzgerald

Adrian Wilson

Atlanta:

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Baltimore:

Ray Lewis

Terrell Suggs

Ed Reed

Buffalo:

---

Carolina:

Steve Smith

Chicago:

Brian Urlacher

Lance Briggs

Cincinnati:

---

Cleveland:

Joe Thomas

Dallas:

DeMarcus Ware

Denver:

Champ Bailey

Shannon Sharpe

Rod Smith

Detroit:

Matt Stafford

Calvin Johnson

Green Bay:

Aaron Rodgers

Clay Matthews

Houston:

Andre Johnson

Indianapolis:

Peyton Manning

Jacksonville:

Maurice Jones-Drew

Kansas City:

Tony Gonzalez

Miami:

Jake Long

Minnesota:

Adrian Peterson

Jared Allen

New England:

Tom Brady

Wes Welker

New Orleans:

Drew Brees

New York Giants:

Eli Manning

Justin Tuck

New York Jets:

Darelle Revis

Oakland Raiders:

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Pittsburgh Steelers:

Ben Roethlisberger

Troy Polamalu

Philadelphia Eagles:

---

San Diego Chargers:

Philip Rivers

Antonio Gates

Tomlinson

San Fransisco:

Frank Gore

Pat Willis

Seattle:

---

St. Louis

Stephen Jackson

Tampa Bay:

Rondé Barber

Tennessee Titans:

---

Washington Redskins:

London Fletcher

The lack of runningbacks on this list is due to the prevalence of injury at the position, and the fact that many of the league's top runners are relatively young (i.e. Ray Rice, Chris Johnson, LeSean McCoy, Jamaal Charles, etc.)

Here is the issue with the Skins...

They have a list of numbers that are un-officially retired. The numbers that come to mind:

81 Art Monk

49 Bobby Mitchell

28 Darrell Green

9 Jurgensen

7 Theismann

44 Riggins

21 Sean Taylor (no one has even worn this since his murder back in 2007)

70 Sam Huff

Can anyone else think of other Redskins??

Also added a couple for given teams

I don't follow nfl much specially not the redskins so i cant comment on most of these but if a player s murdered (while he was active?) his number defenantly should be retired. Oh and you left out The best quater back in the nfl JOE FLACCO, I seriously think that farve should have his number retired but I'm not sure by who? Cause he was amazing. My amature club has two numbers retired, one of a player who played for the predecessor of our club an was one of the first players at our club and another who's family's business has sponsored the club for who knows how long and was one of the best players in the clubs history and had to retire after our clubs first championship season because of an arm injury.

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I don't follow nfl much specially not the redskins so i cant comment on most of these but if a player s murdered (while he was active?) his number defenantly should be retired. Oh and you left out The best quater back in the nfl JOE FLACCO. I seriously think that farve should have his number retired but I'm not sure by who? Cause he was amazing. My amature club has two numbers retired, one of a player who played for the predecessor of our club an was one of the first players at our club and another who's family's business has sponsored the club for who knows how long and was one of the best players in the clubs history and had to retire after our clubs first championship season because of an arm injury.

I needed me a good laugh today...thanks, guy.

Also...some of y'all really need to re-evaluate your standards on just what constitutes a player having a team's highest honor bestowed on him. For real.

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I agree with most of you in that number retirement should be the absolute highest honour possible for a team to bestow upon an ex-player, and that it happens too damn much nowadays. In my book numbers should only be retired for those who were truly great, fan favorites AND made an indelible impact on the franchise.

Some of the few current, or near enough, examples of players I would absolutely retire the number of:

Derek Jeter - Yankees

Chipper Jones - Braves

Peyton Manning - Colts

Ray Lewis - Ravens

Nicklas Lidstrom - Red Wings

Jarome Iginla - Flames

Beyond that, especially with free agency so prevalent nowadays, there are not many current players who fit my criteria.

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The only excception I would make is for players who die whilst being a significant member of the team, such as Sean Taylor for the Redskins

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I'll list a few Giants I think should at least be considered at some point.

Matt Cain. He's consistently one of the best in the bigs, didn't give up a single run during the Giants run to the World Series, got the first perfect game and franchise history, and is far and away the longest tenured Giant currently on the roster (And actually, I think that's been the case as far back as 07). On top of that, with this recent deal there's little chance he'll ever play anywhere else. It may be too soon to say, but not by much. I think he's already earned it, actually.

JT Snow. Admittedly, this is more of my own personal sentiment, but he was a HUGE fan favorite.

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I'll list a few Giants I think should at least be considered at some point.

Matt Cain. He's consistently one of the best in the bigs, didn't give up a single run during the Giants run to the World Series, got the first perfect game and franchise history, and is far and away the longest tenured Giant currently on the roster (And actually, I think that's been the case as far back as 07). On top of that, with this recent deal there's little chance he'll ever play anywhere else. It may be too soon to say, but not by much. I think he's already earned it, actually.

JT Snow. Admittedly, this is more of my own personal sentiment, but he was a HUGE fan favorite.

I'd agree with you about Cain, but I'm still iffy about JT. I simply don't think his stats are HOF material. If he does get it, it'll be on a later ballot or Veteran's Committee. I like JT, but I doubt he'll get into Cooperstown.

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Cursory glance at his baseball-reference page confirms my suspicion that it's--appropriately--going to take months of blizzards in hell for J.T. Snow to make the Hall.

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The Yankees should retire Joe Torre's No. 6.

Co-sign. And once the Yanks retire Jeter's No. 2, they will officially have no single-digit numbers left in circulation. And I think they'd be the first to do that.

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Dave Keon deserves to be honoured by the Leafs. Problem is, he doesn't want it honoured - he wants it retired, which the team doesn't do. We'll have to wait until he passes away until he gets his ceremony, assuming his family would be OK if it's not retired. You could also make a case for Rick Vaive to be honoured as well. Other than that, they've covered everyone.

The Blue Jays honour numbers as well, but retired Roberto Alomar's number because he made it to the Hall in a Blue Jays cap. The team has hinted that a Tom Henke ceremony will come soon, and I imagine Carlos Delgado will have one soon, too. Roy Halladay will surely receive that honour once he retires as well (He might make the Hall himself, and if so, he had better be wearing a Toronto cap. I wonder if they'd retire his number for the same reason as Alomar, or if they would refrain from doing so because he didn't bring them a championship).

And based on Wade Boggs, I think the Rays might need to retire about 30 or so numbers. :upside:

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Roy Halladay will surely receive that honour once he retires as well (He might make the Hall himself, and if so, he had better be wearing a Toronto cap. I wonder if they'd retire his number for the same reason as Alomar, or if they would refrain from doing so because he didn't bring them a championship).

This is an interesting one. Certainly, he established himself as a (if not the) premier pitcher in the game while with Toronto. If he called it quits today, he's certainly a Blue Jay. If he were to anchor a championship staff in Philadelphia though (obviously not this season!), and combine that with his Cy Young, perfect game, and playoff no hitter, and you've got a case that most (if not all) of his "snapshot" moments would be in red, and that's what he'd be "famous" for.

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Roy Halladay will surely receive that honour once he retires as well (He might make the Hall himself, and if so, he had better be wearing a Toronto cap. I wonder if they'd retire his number for the same reason as Alomar, or if they would refrain from doing so because he didn't bring them a championship).

This is an interesting one. Certainly, he established himself as a (if not the) premier pitcher in the game while with Toronto. If he called it quits today, he's certainly a Blue Jay. If he were to anchor a championship staff in Philadelphia though (obviously not this season!), and combine that with his Cy Young, perfect game, and playoff no hitter, and you've got a case that most (if not all) of his "snapshot" moments would be in red, and that's what he'd be "famous" for.

This situation sort of reminds me of Gary Carter. He was a longtime Expo, but had his "snapshot" moment with the Mets when he won the World Series. However, he ultimately went in as an Expo, whom he played for the longest. The big difference though, is that Carter only had 3 good Mets seasons, whereas Halladay will probably get double that with Philadelphia (not to mention more hardware/famous moments), which could sway the HoF committee. I'd definitely be interested to see his personal preference once his career is finished.

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I'll list a few Giants I think should at least be considered at some point.

Matt Cain. He's consistently one of the best in the bigs, didn't give up a single run during the Giants run to the World Series, got the first perfect game and franchise history, and is far and away the longest tenured Giant currently on the roster (And actually, I think that's been the case as far back as 07). On top of that, with this recent deal there's little chance he'll ever play anywhere else. It may be too soon to say, but not by much. I think he's already earned it, actually.

JT Snow. Admittedly, this is more of my own personal sentiment, but he was a HUGE fan favorite.

I'd agree with you about Cain, but I'm still iffy about JT. I simply don't think his stats are HOF material. If he does get it, it'll be on a later ballot or Veteran's Committee. I like JT, but I doubt he'll get into Cooperstown.

No way in hell JT Snow makes the hall of fame.

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Between career and year by age, J.T. Show's most comparable player appears to be 1980s Texas Rangers hard-hitter Pete O'Brien. I have no idea who this is, but he's not a Hall of Famer.

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Roy Halladay will surely receive that honour once he retires as well (He might make the Hall himself, and if so, he had better be wearing a Toronto cap. I wonder if they'd retire his number for the same reason as Alomar, or if they would refrain from doing so because he didn't bring them a championship).

This is an interesting one. Certainly, he established himself as a (if not the) premier pitcher in the game while with Toronto. If he called it quits today, he's certainly a Blue Jay. If he were to anchor a championship staff in Philadelphia though (obviously not this season!), and combine that with his Cy Young, perfect game, and playoff no hitter, and you've got a case that most (if not all) of his "snapshot" moments would be in red, and that's what he'd be "famous" for.

This situation sort of reminds me of Gary Carter. He was a longtime Expo, but had his "snapshot" moment with the Mets when he won the World Series. However, he ultimately went in as an Expo, whom he played for the longest. The big difference though, is that Carter only had 3 good Mets seasons, whereas Halladay will probably get double that with Philadelphia (not to mention more hardware/famous moments), which could sway the HoF committee. I'd definitely be interested to see his personal preference once his career is finished.

Does the Hall take into consideration the inductee's preference for cap logo anymore? I know there was some hubbub about that a number of years ago, but I don't remember the exact policy: is it completely up to the Hall's discretion (like no leeway or inductee input whatsoever), or will they at least listen to the inductee, but still make the final decision?

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The choice of which team logo appears on a player's plaque is the Museum's decision, though the wishes of an inductee are always considered. As a history museum, it is important that the logo be emblematic of the historical accomplishments of that player's career.

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I'm a little surprised I havent heard of it yet (but I'm sure some team has already done it), but I wouldn't be surprised if a minor league team decided to a "Turn Ahead the Clock/Retired Numbers Night" promotion and had all the players wear a futuristic jersey with triple digit numbers. Would be interesting to see how that would look haha.

Please not like the MLB and 3 digits is a bad idea everybody "Funny" would take #***

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Mariners (some repeats)

51 johnson & ichico

19 Buhner (may not be on a national level, but cult hero here)

24 Griffey

11 Martinez

The M's need to revamp their ideas about retiring numbers

Sonics

20 Gary Payton

40 Shawn Kemp

Seahawks

45, 80 and 71 should never be worn again.

71 Walter Jones (thanks Chiago for you pick in exchange for Rick Mirer)

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St. Louis Cardinals current retired numbers

1 - Ozzie Smith

2 - Red Schoendienst

6 - Stan Musial

9 - Enos Slaughter

10 - Tony LaRussa

14 - Ken Boyer

17 - Dizzy Dean

20 - Lou Brock

24 - Whitey Herzog

42 - Jackie Robinson/Bruce Sutter

45 - Bob Gibson

85 - August Busch

There's a difference between players deserving to have their numbers retired and their numbers celebrated. Some deserve to be retired and never worn again and some just deserve to be acknowledged as fan favorites and are on that border line of being retired.

Who I believe should be retired? 5 - Albert Pujols and 25- Mark McGwire.

There's a long list of fan favorites that will always be in debate. A few to list that people either have always wanted retired or eventually will be added to the debate: Al Hrabosky, Willie McGee, Scott Rolen, Chris Carpenter

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I would bet body parts no Mariner ever wears #51 again

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