TheOldRoman

2013 MLB Logo and Uniform Changes

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I loved the Pirates' vest uniforms originally, but it was time to retire them. Around 2004 or 2005, Majestic messed up the vests. Instead of actual vests, with shorter shoulders, they just took the sleeves off regular jerseys. Look how sloppy the shoulders look above. This is how vests used to, and should look over the shoulders:

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If they made the vests like this, then yes. But so far Majestic has not shown the ability to make a proper one, so until then, leave the primaries alone save for a new sleeve patch.

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I think that number font makes the wordmark stand out more. I really think you can dilute a great font by using it all over.

Also, the pinstriped road uniforms were IMO one of the worst uniforms in recent memory. I don't like pinstripes on gray to begin with, but I can sorta get it if your home uniform has them. To just arbitrarily add them to the road uniform (along with a script used nowhere else) just made them look like a totally different club.

The script is nice on its own, and maybe for an alt (yellow on black, or black on yellow) it would work well, but it's in no way superior to their current road jersey wordmark.

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On 10/7/2013 at 4:39 PM, TheOldRoman said:
On 10/7/2013 at 2:54 PM, BrianLion said:

Still prefer this pirate

 

maybe it's because he's Clooney-esque :blush:

Actually, it looks like Kramer. If the Pirates are going with a roundrel, that sucks. I think having a pirate logo is good for their identity. And it's not like it would displace the P on caps. It would be dumb not to have one.

I think it looks like Mel Gibson.

That logo screams 1980s to me. And the face tries a bit too hard to be realistic. I am OK with a pirate logo, but not this one.

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Looking back further, I'm not sure that Russell Athletic was much better with their vess. Their vests weren't nearly as sloppy, but they the shoulders were still wider than in the above photo.

Anyway, I couldn't remember when vests changed. But looking at pictures of the 2001 Diamondbacks, it appears you're correct that Majestic has never made a proper vest. Their style of vest looks sloppy, so I'm glad the Pirates dropped it.

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Looking back further, I'm not sure that Russell Athletic was much better with their vess. Their vests weren't nearly as sloppy, but they the shoulders were still wider than in the above photo.

Anyway, I couldn't remember when vests changed. But looking at pictures of the 2001 Diamondbacks, it appears you're correct that Majestic has never made a proper vest. Their style of vest looks sloppy, so I'm glad the Pirates dropped it.

Russel vests were more tapered than Majestic, but it wasn't perfect:

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Still prefer this pirate

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maybe it's because he's Clooney-esque :blush:

Actually, it looks like Kramer. If the Pirates are going with a roundrel, that sucks. I think having a pirate logo is good for their identity. And it's not like it would displace the P on caps. It would be dumb not to have one.

I think it looks like Mel Gibson.

That logo screams 1980s to me. And the face tries a bit too hard to be realistic. I am OK with a pirate logo, but not this one.

This came to mind for me when I saw that logo...

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Looking back further, I'm not sure that Russell Athletic was much better with their vess. Their vests weren't nearly as sloppy, but they the shoulders were still wider than in the above photo.

Anyway, I couldn't remember when vests changed. But looking at pictures of the 2001 Diamondbacks, it appears you're correct that Majestic has never made a proper vest. Their style of vest looks sloppy, so I'm glad the Pirates dropped it.

Russel vests were more tapered than Majestic, but it wasn't perfect:

25329a_lg.jpeg

larkin-gant.jpg

1997-home-vest5.jpg

Man I love the vest look, 2/3 of those teams definitely downgraded when they got rid of the vests and I'm not talking about the Mariners

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I think a pirate ship logo would be kick-ass for Pittsburgh. An actual pirate head is rather hard to pull off.

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I think a pirate ship logo would be kick-ass for Pittsburgh. An actual pirate head is rather hard to pull off.

nah, you've just got to pull REALLY hard.

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Looking back further, I'm not sure that Russell Athletic was much better with their vess. Their vests weren't nearly as sloppy, but they the shoulders were still wider than in the above photo.

Anyway, I couldn't remember when vests changed. But looking at pictures of the 2001 Diamondbacks, it appears you're correct that Majestic has never made a proper vest. Their style of vest looks sloppy, so I'm glad the Pirates dropped it.

Russel vests were more tapered than Majestic, but it wasn't perfect:

25329a_lg.jpeg

larkin-gant.jpg

1997-home-vest5.jpg

Man I love the vest look, 2/3 of those teams definitely downgraded when they got rid of the vests and I'm not talking about the Mariners

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Several years ago, Nike (as part of its "MLB Ligature" series) came up with this logo, which isn't too bad:

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Several years ago, Nike (as part of its "MLB Ligature" series) came up with this logo, which isn't too bad:

153203061_nike-pittsburgh-pirates-black-

The Pirates have used that skull as a secondary logo in the past, it was rarely seen, however. I would prefer a skull be used in the new 2014 logo, but unsure if the marketing types would deem it too family unfriendly. Disagree with that opinion, have seen a skull used in youth football leagues for teams named Bucs and Pirates.

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Several years ago, Nike (as part of its "MLB Ligature" series) came up with this logo, which isn't too bad:

153203061_nike-pittsburgh-pirates-black-

The Pirates have used that skull as a secondary logo in the past, it was rarely seen, however. I would prefer a skull be used in the new 2014 logo, but unsure if the marketing types would deem it too family unfriendly. Disagree with that opinion, have seen a skull used in youth football leagues for teams named Bucs and Pirates.

Any critic who thinks the pirate skull is family-unfriendly needs to go to Anaheim or Orlando, pay for admission to the appropriate Disney theme park, and see how much Pirates of the Caribbean merchandise they push. Whatever your opinion of the films or Johnny Depp, you cannot deny Disney figured out a way to successfully sell pirates.

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