guest23 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 about the Jets different colors, its even apparent in the merchandise.I have two hats, the upper one is a reebok from 1-2 years ago and the lower a new nike capCant really tell from the photo too well but the Nike one is definitely more "olive" like the new jerseysI was able to same each color as best i could.what material/fabric is each green in? just by the way the light shines differently on the green I'm assuming the fabrics are not similar...the rbk looks like a acrylic/wool blend while the nike looks like some sort of poly...then you have to take the hat vendors' ability to match colors accurately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Nike doesn't manufacture the fabric for their uniforms. The fabric supplier matches the color to the best of their ability depending on the dying process for both the material the fabric is made of and the color itself.Is Nike claiming that the materials provide a competitive advantage? If so, it would be disingenuous to suggest that they are mere draftsmen at the mercy of those unscrupulous companies that actually manufacture the uniforms. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltman Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 All the more reason why the Jets need to get back to that nice pretty kelly green.Hopefully the eagles beat them to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest23 Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Nike doesn't manufacture the fabric for their uniforms. The fabric supplier matches the color to the best of their ability depending on the dying process for both the material the fabric is made of and the color itself.Is Nike claiming that the materials provide a competitive advantage? If so, it would be disingenuous to suggest that they are mere draftsmen at the mercy of those unscrupulous companies that actually manufacture the uniforms.I'll play along....I'm pretty confident nike's supply and distribution chain is nearly 100% built of 3rd party contractors/outside vendors to bring their products to market...all they do is design & market in house and I even think a good chunk of the creative work is done by contractors and not full timers.also to be fair this business model is pretty much standard operating procedure for any enterprise that is in the business of making products Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Yes, but does Nike have any control over the physical materials? Flywire isn't just lines on paper, somebody had to construct that. Somebody had to test it under different conditions, to determine how much stress the materials could take and how much support was needed to fulfill its stated objective. The sweatbox panels are constructed of a different material than the rest of the jersey. Why? Is that in-house design, or do they serve a purpose? If the boxes serve a purpose, then those needed to be tested and refined as well. Who did that if not Nike?Remember those who claimed Flywire and the sweatboxes and all the other innovations were just design smoke? If your description of the process is accurate, then those people were right. If the construction itself isn't crucial, then all the talk of innovation was just that, empty talk. I don't think that's the case. I suspect the situation is more analogous to beer. Sam Adams doesn't brew all its own beer. That's not its business model. Sam Adams itself only brews a relatively small amount of beer, and that is only for the northeastern market. If you're drinking Sam Adams in Florida, then what you're drinking was actually brewed by MillerCoors. Sam Adams contracts out the majority of their brewing to other companies, but under strict contract. MillerCoors can't alter the formula in any way, but must reproduce it to Sam Adams's exacting specifications. Same with Nike and its manufacturing contracts. Nike doesn't make things, that's not their model. But I have a very hard time believing that the contracts don't specify what needs to be produced, right down to the stiching. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaydre1019 Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 about the Jets different colors, its even apparent in the merchandise.I have two hats, the upper one is a reebok from 1-2 years ago and the lower a new nike capCant really tell from the photo too well but the Nike one is definitely more "olive" like the new jerseysI was able to same each color as best i could.what material/fabric is each green in? just by the way the light shines differently on the green I'm assuming the fabrics are not similar...the rbk looks like a acrylic/wool blend while the nike looks like some sort of poly...then you have to take the hat vendors' ability to match colors accurately.I could be wrong, but i'm certain Nike has nothing to do with the new caps, and the new contract is exclusive to only New Era and 47. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debo0775 Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Nike doesn't manufacture the fabric for their uniforms. The fabric supplier matches the color to the best of their ability depending on the dying process for both the material the fabric is made of and the color itself.Is Nike claiming that the materials provide a competitive advantage? If so, it would be disingenuous to suggest that they are mere draftsmen at the mercy of those unscrupulous companies that actually manufacture the uniforms.I'm not certain how they phrase their tech/competitive advantage claims. If I recall, I think they make the claim that the uniform construct (Elite 51 in this case) is what provides the advantage and not the fabrics. And while Nike probably isn't the one manufacturing the fabric, it's possible that they're developing them. Without knowing exactly what they say and what they do, it's hard to pin down what is/isn't a fair assessment of their claims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gr3g3 Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Well this thread derailed. Shouldn't we keep this thread to the changes in 2013 relating to the Dolphins, Vikings and Jags? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claystation360 Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Agreed. I have come to the understanding that Jaguars 2013 are "Revolutionary and still have a nice amount of teal with some other unique stuff. "I wonder when they will Start unveiling these uniforms if they will do it Individually or in a group? #DTWD #GoJaguars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksupilot Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Agreed.I have come to the understanding that Jaguars 2013 are "Revolutionary and still have a nice amount of teal with some other unique stuff. "I wonder when they will Start unveiling these uniforms if they will do it Individually or in a group?Draft Day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSHARE18 Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Agreed. I have come to the understanding that Jaguars 2013 are "Revolutionary and still have a nice amount of teal with some other unique stuff. "I wonder when they will Start unveiling these uniforms if they will do it Individually or in a group?I just hope they dont have spots anywhere. Have you heard if they have brought gold back to the uniforms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gr3g3 Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Agreed.I have come to the understanding that Jaguars 2013 are "Revolutionary and still have a nice amount of teal with some other unique stuff. "I wonder when they will Start unveiling these uniforms if they will do it Individually or in a group?Draft Day?Usually teams like to have stuff unveiled before draft day so they can have the new stuff out there.I'm curious as to when the new logos with come out. They are usually released a couple months before the uniforms.Panthers unveiled their new logo in January I believe. As did the Cardinals way back when they updated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claystation360 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 I've heard a few different dates Jan 20th ( Championship Sunday) so doubtful and one date inI don't remember march something are the 2 that I have heard but this was 5 or 6 months ago. #DTWD #GoJaguars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaydre1019 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I could see the jags going black with teal sleeves and gold trim/accents. I just really hope they reintroduce gold, knowing that it's Nike I'm sure they'd want to use as many colors as possible which I think would be a good thing in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremythebadman Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I know its still early in 2012 season, but what are confirmed uniform changes for 2013 ? I've heard Jagaurs and Dolphins so far. Probably a Seahawks throwback.they change it every year to make more money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tBBP Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Not saying this means or doesn't mean anything, just something strange I happened to catch on TV this morning... *Disclaimer: I am not an authoritative expert on stuff...I just do a lot of reading and research and keep in close connect with a bunch of people who are authoritative experts on stuff. || dribbble || Behance || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgthree Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 what are we looking at in that picture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhlyBoy Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 what are we looking at in that picture? I'm pretty sure the picture is meant to show the different colts script. For comparison, they currently use this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fouhy12 Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 It looks like the same script to me, just skewed at a different angle. I think it is just an illusion. fouhy12's NFL Concepts 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randyc Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 It looks like the same script to me, just skewed at a different angle. I think it is just an illusion.Ya, looks like the top and bottom of the script are cut off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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