hockey week Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 My friend just posted this to facebook, his alma mater Chartiers-Houston High School has copied not one, but two logos, the Montreal Canadiens' and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers' wordmark, and he's proud of it.Oh, and it looks like they copied The Pirate Bay for their ship. Didn't notice that until just now. Just edited the title to match.Can you guys post some arguments and reasoning of why this is not a good thing? I'll respect any opinion that you can defend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 I really hope they knew it was the Pirate Bay logo, because that much intentional irony should be tossing back PBRs like crazy. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missouri tigers Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Wait, does he claim to "made" these logos or is he just proud that he made a cover featuring these logos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockey week Posted October 23, 2012 Author Share Posted October 23, 2012 Wait, does he claim to "made" these logos or is he just proud that he made a cover featuring these logos?He was just proud that his high school "is using one of the best logos in sports", and I'm telling him that it's a bad thing because they're stolen logos I'll respect any opinion that you can defend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckymack Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 It's bad for a myriad of reasons. Just off the top of my head:1. It's IP theft, plain and simple. By doing this, the high school opens itself up for public scrutiny, not to mention legal action. 2. Using someone else's logo doesn't strengthen your brand. It dilutes it via association with another entity. 3. It makes the school appear lazy and unprofessional, and sets a terrible example for its students. 4. Logos are usually designed with a specific color palette in mind. Recoloring a logo disrupts its visual appeal, thus making the institution appear even more aloof. 5. There are an awful lot of designers who'd whip up an identity package for the school -- possibly at a discounted rate, since it may qualify as a non-profit organization. Also, a cavéat or two regarding the use of the Bucs' wordmark:1. The NFL allows the use of its logos by high school football teams. 2. The Bucs' wordmark is not proprietary. It's a widely available font; not a custom typeface. Sigs are for sissies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJM Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Lack of creativity. (MLF) Chicago Cannons,  (IHA) Phoenix Firebirds - 2021 Xtreme Cup Champions (WAFL) Phoenix Federals - WAFL World Bowl XII Champions (Defunct) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBGKon Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 They're good on the script, as thats not what the Bucs use, just something similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjrbaseball Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 I have never understood why high schools feel the need to take someone else's logo. High school art and computer classes are full of aspiring graphic artists, all of whom would be thrilled to have their work accepted as the school's official logo. Schools have the people in their student bodies to create something new and unique. They have no need to appropriate someone else's work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustABallCoach Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 As someone who works in High School athletics I will say why they do it. Because its easy and because it looks better. Things like helmet decals are getting tougher to find for copy cat logos, although its still possible if you use a vendor who can find it. Most schools don't have the budget to get custom logos. Many schools have been using copy cat logos for decades making it unpopular to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raysfan12 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Just imagine how much the school will pay for the copyright damages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leggman01 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 what i always find interesting is the irony...a school wouldn't allow its students to copy someone else's academic work, yet they have no problem copying someone else's logo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportstar1212 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Just imagine how much the school will pay for the copyright damages.They're definitely not going to have any money left to run the athletic department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman1211 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 They even left the cassette tape on the sail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pianoknight Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Well, they're probably safe using The Pirate Bay's intellectual property. Pirate Bay has been "sharing" IP for so long that if they tried legal action against this high school, they'd probably get laughed out of court. 5th in NAT. TITLES | 2nd in CONF. TITLES |  5th in HEISMAN |  7th in DRAFTS |  8th in ALL-AMER  | 7th in WINS  | 4th in BOWLS |  1st in SELLOUTS  | 1st GAMEDAY SIGN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jungle Jim Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 They even left the cassette tape on the sail.What is a cassette tape?(kidding) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjrbaseball Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 As someone who works in High School athletics I will say why they do it.Because its easy and because it looks better.Things like helmet decals are getting tougher to find for copy cat logos, although its still possible if you use a vendor who can find it.Most schools don't have the budget to get custom logos. Many schools have been using copy cat logos for decades making it unpopular to change.Respectfully, I have seen the design work that students in high school graphics classes can produce, and some of it is amazing. A school could make it a competition among its students. The school would get an original logo that is just as good as one they copied, and even if they decided to reward the creator of the winning design monetarily, it would still be far cheaper than stealing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hormone Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 The HS I work at steals the...Clemson Tiger Paw (midfield)LSU Tiger Eye (on the wall in gym)Minnesota Gopher MNike Football logo (sold on T's with Gopher M replacing Swoosh)Cincy Bengal (on volleyball unis)Mizzou Tiger (on back of football jerseys where the Vikings place their logo above nameplate)I guess they one-upped you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustABallCoach Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Try finding a good horse logo that's not from SMU or the Broncos (Denver and Boise) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Try finding a good horse logo that's not from SMU or the Broncos (Denver and Boise)You're not trying hard enough. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goforbroke Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Try finding a good horse logo that's not from SMU or the Broncos (Denver and Boise)You're not trying hard enough.My high school was the mustangs and we had a combination ofMichigan M (our colors were blue and gold too)Denver Broncos (football)Pistons horse on basketball (basketball)CFL Calgary Stampeders (Other sports) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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