BBTV Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 https://twitter.com/...940962366083072FollowJerry CrasnickVerified@jcrasnick"Watch out for #phillies to surprise everyone and sign Hamilton,'' said one prominent agent. A scout told me the same thing. "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmoehrin Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 https://twitter.com/...940962366083072FollowJerry CrasnickVerified@jcrasnick"Watch out for #phillies to surprise everyone and sign Hamilton,'' said one prominent agent. A scout told me the same thing.It wouldn't shock me if they did land him. The trade for Wilton Lopez tells me they are still serious about trying to win now.If they add Hamilton they could conceivably make one last serious run at a World Series title with their current roster the way it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 https://twitter.com/...940962366083072FollowJerry CrasnickVerified@jcrasnick"Watch out for #phillies to surprise everyone and sign Hamilton,'' said one prominent agent. A scout told me the same thing.It wouldn't shock me if they did land him. The trade for Wilton Lopez tells me they are still serious about trying to win now.If they add Hamilton they could conceivably make one last serious run at a World Series title with their current roster the way it is.Signing Hamilton would be a HUGE mistake IMO. Don't the Phillies have enough bloated contracts to guys who are soon to/have already started to decline? On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmoehrin Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 https://twitter.com/...940962366083072FollowJerry CrasnickVerified@jcrasnick"Watch out for #phillies to surprise everyone and sign Hamilton,'' said one prominent agent. A scout told me the same thing.It wouldn't shock me if they did land him. The trade for Wilton Lopez tells me they are still serious about trying to win now.If they add Hamilton they could conceivably make one last serious run at a World Series title with their current roster the way it is.Signing Hamilton would be a HUGE mistake IMO. Don't the Phillies have enough bloated contracts to guys who are soon to/have already started to decline?Charlie Manuel's contract is up after this year and I think this will be his last year. Chase Utley's contract is up this year as well. Roy Halladay's contract is up after this year. Carlos Ruiz's contract is up after this year. Everything says the Phillies are gearing up for one last run. I don't think Charlie Manuel would even be managing the team if he didn't have some kind of assurance from the Phillie front office that they would be competitive this year. When you get to 2014 I think you are going to see the rebuilding/retooling process start under a new regime. But what is to be lost by taking one last run at a World Series title except delaying the rebuilding/retooling process by a year?The most interesting team in the Hamilton race I find is Milwaukee. This is the same team that was complaining about Prince Fielder wanting too much money. Now they're opening up the check book to land a high priced free agent and give up draft picks on top of it? What changed from last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 https://twitter.com/...940962366083072FollowJerry CrasnickVerified@jcrasnick"Watch out for #phillies to surprise everyone and sign Hamilton,'' said one prominent agent. A scout told me the same thing.It wouldn't shock me if they did land him. The trade for Wilton Lopez tells me they are still serious about trying to win now.If they add Hamilton they could conceivably make one last serious run at a World Series title with their current roster the way it is.Signing Hamilton would be a HUGE mistake IMO. Don't the Phillies have enough bloated contracts to guys who are soon to/have already started to decline?Charlie Manuel's contract is up after this year and I think this will be his last year. Chase Utley's contract is up this year as well. Roy Halladay's contract is up after this year. Carlos Ruiz's contract is up after this year. Everything says the Phillies are gearing up for one last run. I don't think Charlie Manuel would even be managing the team if he didn't have some kind of assurance from the Phillie front office that they would be competitive this year. When you get to 2014 I think you are going to see the rebuilding/retooling process start under a new regime. But what is to be lost by taking one last run at a World Series title except delaying the rebuilding/retooling process by a year?Charlie Manuel is managing this team because the current players love him, and as you said, they want one more run with this bunch. It's widely assumed that Ryne Sandberg will be the manager in 2014, and possibly sooner should they get off to a disappointing start. I too feel that Hamilton is a mistake, even if they're going "all in" in 2013. For one thing, "all in" doesn't work. For another, he's just too big a risk injury wise and off field. "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmoehrin Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 https://twitter.com/...940962366083072FollowJerry CrasnickVerified@jcrasnick"Watch out for #phillies to surprise everyone and sign Hamilton,'' said one prominent agent. A scout told me the same thing.It wouldn't shock me if they did land him. The trade for Wilton Lopez tells me they are still serious about trying to win now.If they add Hamilton they could conceivably make one last serious run at a World Series title with their current roster the way it is.Signing Hamilton would be a HUGE mistake IMO. Don't the Phillies have enough bloated contracts to guys who are soon to/have already started to decline?Charlie Manuel's contract is up after this year and I think this will be his last year. Chase Utley's contract is up this year as well. Roy Halladay's contract is up after this year. Carlos Ruiz's contract is up after this year. Everything says the Phillies are gearing up for one last run. I don't think Charlie Manuel would even be managing the team if he didn't have some kind of assurance from the Phillie front office that they would be competitive this year. When you get to 2014 I think you are going to see the rebuilding/retooling process start under a new regime. But what is to be lost by taking one last run at a World Series title except delaying the rebuilding/retooling process by a year?Charlie Manuel is managing this team because the current players love him, and as you said, they want one more run with this bunch. It's widely assumed that Ryne Sandberg will be the manager in 2014, and possibly sooner should they get off to a disappointing start. I too feel that Hamilton is a mistake, even if they're going "all in" in 2013. For one thing, "all in" doesn't work. For another, he's just too big a risk injury wise and off field.The off field issues are the obvious drawback with Hamilton and will always be. If it were me I would be very reluctant to give the guy anymore then three or four years and would even push for two if I was in a position to do so. The pro with him if your the Philies down the road is that he can make for great trade bait because when he is healthy and focused, I'm not sure if there's a better outfielder in the game. If your in a stretch run and you need one more bat, your not going to do much better then Josh Hamilton. So your not signing somebody that you will necessarily be locked into long term unless you give him a crazy contract, which I don't think they will do.A 3 to 4 year deal for Hamilton I think would make sense for the Phillies given their situation. He helps you now and it still gives you a solid lineup piece for another 2 to 3 years. Any more then that and I think they would be pushing it. My prediction is he will get 5-6 years. I don't know who will give it to him, but somebody is going to get desperate and pull the trigger. Could be the Phillies could somebody else. We'll probably find out in a week at the Winter Meetings in Nashville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Jerry CrasnickVerified@jcrasnick"Watch out for #phillies to surprise everyone and sign Hamilton,'' said one prominent agent. A scout told me the same thing.A ma$$ive deal to a guy who has already peaked and in and out of rehab. Be my guest, Philadelphia! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 https://twitter.com/...940962366083072FollowJerry CrasnickVerified@jcrasnick"Watch out for #phillies to surprise everyone and sign Hamilton,'' said one prominent agent. A scout told me the same thing.It wouldn't shock me if they did land him. The trade for Wilton Lopez tells me they are still serious about trying to win now.If they add Hamilton they could conceivably make one last serious run at a World Series title with their current roster the way it is.Signing Hamilton would be a HUGE mistake IMO. Don't the Phillies have enough bloated contracts to guys who are soon to/have already started to decline?Charlie Manuel's contract is up after this year and I think this will be his last year. Chase Utley's contract is up this year as well. Roy Halladay's contract is up after this year. Carlos Ruiz's contract is up after this year. Everything says the Phillies are gearing up for one last run. I don't think Charlie Manuel would even be managing the team if he didn't have some kind of assurance from the Phillie front office that they would be competitive this year. When you get to 2014 I think you are going to see the rebuilding/retooling process start under a new regime. But what is to be lost by taking one last run at a World Series title except delaying the rebuilding/retooling process by a year?Charlie Manuel is managing this team because the current players love him, and as you said, they want one more run with this bunch. It's widely assumed that Ryne Sandberg will be the manager in 2014, and possibly sooner should they get off to a disappointing start. I too feel that Hamilton is a mistake, even if they're going "all in" in 2013. For one thing, "all in" doesn't work. For another, he's just too big a risk injury wise and off field.The off field issues are the obvious drawback with Hamilton and will always be. If it were me I would be very reluctant to give the guy anymore then three or four years and would even push for two if I was in a position to do so. The pro with him if your the Philies down the road is that he can make for great trade bait because when he is healthy and focused, I'm not sure if there's a better outfielder in the game. If your in a stretch run and you need one more bat, your not going to do much better then Josh Hamilton. So your not signing somebody that you will necessarily be locked into long term unless you give him a crazy contract, which I don't think they will do.A 3 to 4 year deal for Hamilton I think would make sense for the Phillies given their situation. He helps you now and it still gives you a solid lineup piece for another 2 to 3 years. Any more then that and I think they would be pushing it. My prediction is he will get 5-6 years. I don't know who will give it to him, but somebody is going to get desperate and pull the trigger. Could be the Phillies could somebody else. We'll probably find out in a week at the Winter Meetings in Nashville.That's just the thing though. No way Philly gets him on a 2-3 year deal, because SOMEBODY is gonna get desperate and give him a 5-6 year deal at max money. And if not, I think there are a few better options out there for Hamilton if he's only going to get that 2-3 year deal that aren't Philly. On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexter Morgan Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 I think it would be a mistake to sign him, but the prospects of a healthy, sober Josh Hamilton playing half his games in Yankee Stadium makes me drool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 https://twitter.com/...940962366083072FollowJerry CrasnickVerified@jcrasnick"Watch out for #phillies to surprise everyone and sign Hamilton,'' said one prominent agent. A scout told me the same thing.It wouldn't shock me if they did land him. The trade for Wilton Lopez tells me they are still serious about trying to win now.If they add Hamilton they could conceivably make one last serious run at a World Series title with their current roster the way it is.Signing Hamilton would be a HUGE mistake IMO. Don't the Phillies have enough bloated contracts to guys who are soon to/have already started to decline?Charlie Manuel's contract is up after this year and I think this will be his last year. Chase Utley's contract is up this year as well. Roy Halladay's contract is up after this year. Carlos Ruiz's contract is up after this year. Everything says the Phillies are gearing up for one last run. I don't think Charlie Manuel would even be managing the team if he didn't have some kind of assurance from the Phillie front office that they would be competitive this year. When you get to 2014 I think you are going to see the rebuilding/retooling process start under a new regime. But what is to be lost by taking one last run at a World Series title except delaying the rebuilding/retooling process by a year?Charlie Manuel is managing this team because the current players love him, and as you said, they want one more run with this bunch. It's widely assumed that Ryne Sandberg will be the manager in 2014, and possibly sooner should they get off to a disappointing start. I too feel that Hamilton is a mistake, even if they're going "all in" in 2013. For one thing, "all in" doesn't work. For another, he's just too big a risk injury wise and off field.The off field issues are the obvious drawback with Hamilton and will always be. If it were me I would be very reluctant to give the guy anymore then three or four years and would even push for two if I was in a position to do so. The pro with him if your the Philies down the road is that he can make for great trade bait because when he is healthy and focused, I'm not sure if there's a better outfielder in the game. If your in a stretch run and you need one more bat, your not going to do much better then Josh Hamilton. So your not signing somebody that you will necessarily be locked into long term unless you give him a crazy contract, which I don't think they will do.A 3 to 4 year deal for Hamilton I think would make sense for the Phillies given their situation. He helps you now and it still gives you a solid lineup piece for another 2 to 3 years. Any more then that and I think they would be pushing it. My prediction is he will get 5-6 years. I don't know who will give it to him, but somebody is going to get desperate and pull the trigger. Could be the Phillies could somebody else. We'll probably find out in a week at the Winter Meetings in Nashville.That's just the thing though. No way Philly gets him on a 2-3 year deal, because SOMEBODY is gonna get desperate and give him a 5-6 year deal at max money. And if not, I think there are a few better options out there for Hamilton if he's only going to get that 2-3 year deal that aren't Philly.Well this tweet hasn't been mentioned anywhere else that I can find, so apparently even local writers aren't taking it seriously. My guess is that they're working on bringing Bourne back or (more likely) a big trade.The one thing they have in their favor when it comes to Hamilton and a favorable deal is that despite last year's struggles, they're still considered a "destination" for free agents, and there's a chance that someone would give them a favorable deal to go there. I'm with everyone else though, and would just let some other sucker give him the 5 or 6 years and move on in a more conservative direction. "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Sources are saying that Brian Wilson will be non-tendered by the San Francisco Giants. Dear Lord, I'd love to see him in a Red Sox uniform. He's the type of guy they need right now, attitude-wise. On 4/10/2017 at 3:05 PM, Rollins Man said: what the hell is ccslc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninersdd Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Sources are saying that Brian Wilson will be non-tendered by the San Francisco Giants. Dear Lord, I'd love to see him in a Red Sox uniform. He's the type of guy they need right now, attitude-wise.He's also from Massachusetts, I believe. BEAR DOWN ARIZONA!2013/14 Tanks Picks Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lights Out Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Sources are saying that Brian Wilson will be non-tendered by the San Francisco Giants. Dear Lord, I'd love to see him in a Red Sox uniform. He's the type of guy they need right now, attitude-wise.I wonder if the Blue Jays will scoop him up, since a.) they're signing everybody lately; and b.) their bullpen has been questionable since the days of BJ Ryan. POTD: 2/4/12 3/4/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Sources are saying that Brian Wilson will be non-tendered by the San Francisco Giants. Dear Lord, I'd love to see him in a Red Sox uniform. He's the type of guy they need right now, attitude-wise.That's definitely true, but would he be worth it from a baseball perspective? That's the issue the Giants have with him. They'd LOVE to have him back, and he'll be missed if he leaves, but it just doesn't make sense to give a guy 6-8 million a year who just came off of his second arm surgery in his career and had to miss the entire season because of it. Especially when Sergio Romo had such a great finish in the closer spot. In his prime, Wilson is lights out, but how much of that is left? Hopefully a lot, and f he signs with Boston I hope he has a fantastic career, but it'd definitely be a risk.Just as long as he doesn't sign with the Dodgers, like some reports have been saying. On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEW.ERA Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 I'd love Wilson in a Jays uniform as well. I know he's beat up of late, but he could really be that kick this bullpen so sorely needs. JETS|PACK|JAYS|NUFC|BAMA|BOMBERS|RAPS|ORANJE| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Six Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Wilson will be a Dodger if he's not a Giant. He lives in LA, and Colletti loves signing ex-SF players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEW.ERA Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 So I get Toronto put a ban on owning Pit Bull's, which is downright sad, but that's beside the point. Does that apply to the entire province? Because Mark Buehrle owns a few I believe, and he's not going to be able to live in Toronto, and is moving to Buffalo.I really hope this among thousands of Pit Bull owners in Toronto, can get this stupid bill to go away. JETS|PACK|JAYS|NUFC|BAMA|BOMBERS|RAPS|ORANJE| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Six Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Yeah the ban's on pit bull's need's to stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigEd76 Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Minnesota traded Denard Span to the Nationals for minor league pitcher Alex Meyer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 So I get Toronto put a ban on owning Pit Bull's, which is downright sad, but that's beside the point. Does that apply to the entire province? Because Mark Buehrle owns a few I believe, and he's not going to be able to live in Toronto, and is moving to Buffalo.I really hope this among thousands of Pit Bull owners in Toronto, can get this stupid bill to go away.It is a provincial ban (under Ontario’s Dog Owners’ Liability Act). There was a similar ban in Miami-Dade County. As a result, he had his family lived in Broward County last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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