The_Admiral Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 As for the revenue issue the Cubs have plenty of resources at their disposal to be a winning team year in and year out as does virtually every other MLB team at this point.False, the owners are broke.Ask Big Daddy Ricketts for another loan. Or did he piss away ALL of his fortune on Karl Rove et. al.?Take Down Barack ObamaHit Up Rahm Emanuel For Money ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Why are we discussing politics in a baseball thread www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Because the Cubs are cravenly and despicably asking politicians for free money. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Why are we discussing politics in a baseball threadBecause Tom Ricketts (AKA the father and actual money guy of the current Cubs ownership) has spent a not insubstantial some of his money on PACs indicating that he is morally opposed to any and all forms of government spending except when it specifically comes to Wrigley Field renovations; at which point all of it should be on the public dime. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOldRoman Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 ^ That's some pretty silly hyperbole, but anyway, yes. Ricketts' father gave a lot of money to fund anti-Obama election commercials. Emanuel was openly pissed off about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Correct me if Im wrong didn't these renovations begin under the Tribune regime. www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Correct me if Im wrong didn't these renovations begin under the Tribune regime.These are new ones. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Red Sox sign Mike Napoli On 4/10/2017 at 3:05 PM, Rollins Man said: what the hell is ccslc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 And I guess he's the Texecutioner now.The Rangers have signed Joakim Soria. 2 years/8 mil. Off The Top Rope: A Pro Wrestling Podcast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramerica Industries Posted December 4, 2012 Author Share Posted December 4, 2012 Mike Napoli's sad he won't get to face the Angels 19 times a season anymore.Guy hit .442 against Anaheim last year, and sub-.200 against the rest of baseball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrySmalls Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Nationals sign Dan Haren to a one-year deal worth $13MM.I see him as a serviceable fourth or fifth starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 What was the salary on the option year for Haren? $15MM, right? ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrySmalls Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 What was the salary on the option year for Haren? $15MM, right?Close, it was $15.5MM. Angels bought him out for $3.5MM. If my math is correct, then he's making $16.5MM next year (a $1MM increase). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmoehrin Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Nationals sign Dan Haren to a one-year deal worth $13MM.I see him as a serviceable fourth or fifth starter.I would hope he's better then a fourth starter because if that's all he is then the Nats way overpaid for him.Something tells me Haren left some money or at least years on the table to come to Washington. I think he's looking to establish himself as one of the best pitchers in the game, a title he lost last year, be paid as such and hopefully win a World Series title in the process.Also the Veterans Committee results are in. Jacob Ruppert, Hank O'Day and Deacon White are now in.Ruppert I think should be in. White I'd say should probably be in as well even though I really don't think you can compare guys like White to even players like Ty Cobb just because of how much the game changed. Hank O'Day I disagree with, but I also disagree with putting umpires in the Hall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramerica Industries Posted December 4, 2012 Author Share Posted December 4, 2012 If someone is excellent at their job, then I see no problem with them being in the Hall of Fame.Umpires are a part of the game. It's just we generally notice those who are routinely bad at their job; the Angel Hernandez's and C.B. Bucknor's of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmoehrin Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 If someone is excellent at their job, then I see no problem with them being in the Hall of Fame.Umpires are a part of the game. It's just we generally notice those who are routinely bad at their job; the Angel Hernandez's and C.B. Bucknor's of the world.Yeah but how do you measure what's a good umpire? Now you have systems in place where you can actually grade guys fairly accurately, but go back 50, 60, 70 years there is no system in place. Your basing how good or bad an umpire is entirely on opinion and second hand accounts.If they wanted to treat them the same way as writers and broadcasters where its just general contributions to the game, I would be alright with that. If you coming at if from that perspective, then yes I think you can say that guys like Bill Klem and Cal Hubbard certainly deserve to be in. But to actually give them a plaque and list them in the same section as guys like Babe Ruth, Walter Johnson, Sandy Koufax and Willie Mays. That I have a problem with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Edit: Nevermind just a Rumorhttp://arizonasports...-for-Cliff-Lee-Justin Upton for Cliff Lee, that'd be a HUGE trade if it were to happen!@pedrogomezESPNPhillies and Diamondbacks are discussing Justin Upton for Cliff Lee. Money coming to AZ would also be involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Red Sox reportedly offer a three year, $38 million deal to Shane Victorino. I hope that's a joke. On 4/10/2017 at 3:05 PM, Rollins Man said: what the hell is ccslc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOldRoman Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Why not? The contract they gave Napoli was a joke, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrySmalls Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Nationals sign Dan Haren to a one-year deal worth $13MM.I see him as a serviceable fourth or fifth starter.I would hope he's better then a fourth starter because if that's all he is then the Nats way overpaid for him.Something tells me Haren left some money or at least years on the table to come to Washington. I think he's looking to establish himself as one of the best pitchers in the game, a title he lost last year, be paid as such and hopefully win a World Series title in the process.I think GM Rizzo is taking a gamble that Haren will perform better than anticipated. I do have some reservations, of course; hence why I said "serviceable fourth or fifth starter".Now the bigger question to ask next year at this time is which signing was better: Edwin Jackson for one-year at $10MM for the 2012 season or Dan Haren for one-year at $13MM for the 2013 season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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