Brian in Boston Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 I know it's historical, but why does the Bison have the same batting stance as Saduharu Oh?Perhaps, before becoming a Buffalo Bison, he was a member of the Kintetsu Buffaloes. He'd have seen a lot of Oh and the Yomiuri Giants on television over in Japan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanB06 Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Per Lisa Winston's Twitter (@lisawinston):Lisa Winston @LisaWinstonOne of my favorite cities back in the Eastern League with Mets move to Ottawa. Planning summer road trip NOW. Sodboy13 said: As you watch more basketball, you will learn to appreciate the difference between "defense" and "couldn't find the rim with a pair of bloodhounds and a Garmin." meet the new page, not the same as the old page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvrdgsfn Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 West Michigan has a new road cap & alternate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaxNoles Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 It's not completely horrible. Miles ahead of the beveled crap they had before. But they really should have hired someone to design it with experience in minor league baseball logo design rather than a local merchandiser.i'm hoping the primary cap is just like the one the Bison is wearing. Just a nice big ol' slab B.So do I. I really want them to see this retro thing out. As for the logo, I like it, but don't love it. The half baseball is kinda strange. Given what they had before, it's a BIG improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubsFanBudMan Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Looks like W. Michigan has some new logos as well:I'm not sure how I'm feeling about the Tiger wave....Yes, the West Michigan Whitecaps have unveiled new road caps, as well as an alternate logo to be used only on souvenir items. Brandiose is responsible for both designs.I kind of like that. Ties the current wave logo in with their parent club. Quirky, but that's okay in the Midwest League.The WM isn't bad, either. My only hesitation is the mention of Brandiose (and that wouldn't have been the case before this thread), so I assume all these new logos will be in addition to the ones they already have.And I still think the Whitecaps need at least one white cap. If they don't anymore, that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckymack Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 I don't know WHAT Brandiose's problem is, but they really need to get their straight. Lexington was meh, the Popeye and asparagus were well-done but a bit much, and those Western Michigan ones are complete garbage. Kinda sad to see one of the good agencies repeatedly fail lime this. Sigs are for sissies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Ugh. That "WM" logo is awful. They couldn't incorporate the two letters into one monogram? The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBLUEBEATMSU Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 I love going to whitecaps games but they just pissed off all of western michigan nobody here in west michigan likes these logos I wouldn't be surprised If they don't wear these cause we hate them here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubsFanBudMan Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Well, since I'm the only one who finds these marginally acceptable, I'll play devil's advocate and throw out a defense. What they have right now is either a small wave or giant baseball. And it's on the cap. I'll take just about any combo of letters on a cap over that. And I think if the WM were combined, it'd be illegible or look like a fence or something.Does making it a tiger improve it? Maybe not. ... Okay, I'm not even buying my defense. None of their identity is all that great and this probably just muddles it. Carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddball Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 I don't know WHAT Brandiose's problem is, but they really need to get their straight. Lexington was meh, the Popeye and asparagus were well-done but a bit much, and those Western Michigan ones are complete garbage.Kinda sad to see one of the good agencies repeatedly fail lime this.Don't blame the agency. Obviously you have never been in the design process. The look is because of the client, it's what they wanted and what they signed off on. The designers, design something and the client looks at it and then tells them, "I like this, but not this. How about we do this?" A lot of times the designer sits there and thinks, "Are you f'n crazy? That looks horrible!" It's at that time the designer realizes that he has bills to pay, shrugs and says, "Sure." As a designer, you can only fight the client to look good for so long. It's a losing battle, if the client wants to look bad, there is nothing you can do. You do the crappy stuff, so you can work with clients to get it and allow you to make them look good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 I've been in the design process, from both sides, and as such I am in general extremely reluctant to blame the design team for these types of messes. On the other hand, when a pattern emerges, it starts to look as though not all the issues can be blamed on their clients. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCall Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Now I'm pretty low on the design pole, but my opinion has always been, obviously, "what the customer wants". That being said, though, it is up to the designer to help steer them along, so to speak. The clients may not typically have as much knowledge on design, thus why they are hiring somebody to do one for them. The designer should advise them on where to go and what to use. If the ideas being put forth are overly cluttered, such as the Ports or Reading, then the designer should let them know the potential problems they could face. If afterwards, they still want it that way, then the designer proceeds with what the client wants. A good designer should find the balance between what the customer wants and what works best. But in the end, the customer has the final say. https://dribbble.com/MakaioCall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Of course. But if several customers in a row make the same terrible choices, it's not unreasonable to start thinking the designers might not be advising them very well... The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCall Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Of course. But if several customers in a row make the same terrible choices, it's not unreasonable to start thinking the designers might not be advising them very well...Yeah that was my not-so-clearly made point. https://dribbble.com/MakaioCall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddball Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Of course.But if several customers in a row make the same terrible choices, it's not unreasonable to start thinking the designers might not be advising them very well...I disagree, I just think they are deal with a bunch of idiots. Think about it. If a design firm can design something that looks good for one client, then why can't they for all clients? Simple, the client wants something that they think is cool and is not. For example, let's look at the Stockton Ports logo, I guarentee you the design firm told them they don't really need a redesign and should stick with a solid logo only to get something close to, "But we'd like an alternate, maybe along the lines of a vegitable." To which the designer probably said, "You do understand that might not look good?" The client, "I know, but it was something I wanted to try." At that point the art director goes to the team and let's them know what the client wants and one of the designers sits there and says, "Are you f'n kiddin' me? That's just friggin' stupid!" To which the art director nods his head and says, "I know. Just make it look good. The client's always right." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Think about it. If a design firm can design something that looks good for one client, then why can't they for all clients? Oh, that's easy. Even good designers have bad days. Atom Egoyan has even been known to make a lousy movie. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Atom EgoyanAnd I get crap for being esoteric ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Not from me. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian in Boston Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 The Aberdeen IronBirds of the New York-Penn League have unveiled a new logo package. It was designed by Studio Simon.Primary Logo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejeff Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 The Aberdeen IronBirds of the New York-Penn League have unveiled a new logo package. It was designed by Studio Simon.Primary LogoIn like that a lot. First minor league winner of this offseason potential to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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