rams80 Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Yes, but "Crimson Tide" is a rather abstract concept. "Doughboy" isn't.When was Illinois ever nicknamed the Doughboys? U of I students weren't just in the army during WWI. They fought in other branches of the military also. Which is why they were called the Fighting Illini, not the Fighting Doughboys.In the context of the 1920s if you were to think of and honor somebody who fought "over there" you didn't think of the Famous World War One Flying Ace or the sailors on US Navy warships. You thought of and honored the guys in the trenches. Hence why you would use Doughboy imagery.Of course again, original intent is kind of moot when Chief Illiniwek debuted in the mid 1920s. Illinois' archives doth protest too much methinks. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illini1 Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Yes, but "Crimson Tide" is a rather abstract concept. "Doughboy" isn't.When was Illinois ever nicknamed the Doughboys? U of I students weren't just in the army during WWI. They fought in other branches of the military also. Which is why they were called the Fighting Illini, not the Fighting Doughboys.In the context of the 1920s if you were to think of and honor somebody who fought "over there" you didn't think of the Famous World War One Flying Ace or the sailors on US Navy warships. You thought of and honored the guys in the trenches. Hence why you would use Doughboy imagery.Of course again, original intent is kind of moot when Chief Illiniwek debuted in the mid 1920s. Illinois' archives doth protest too much methinks.I can see why someone who's school nickname is another word for hick would try to try to find faults in other school's nicknames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 I'm not finding fault with the nickname. I'm finding fault with a half-arsed attempt to spin the nickname. Original intent is meaningless when the school spends most of the next nine decades playing up the Native American component until the NCAA and Illini descendant tribes told them to stop. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illini1 Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 I'm not finding fault with the nickname. I'm finding fault with a half-arsed attempt to spin the nickname. Original intent is meaningless when the school spends most of the next nine decades playing up the Native American component until the NCAA and Illini descendant tribes told them to stop.Well, neither one of us are going to change our minds on this. There are some incorrect statements in the quoted post above, but I'm not going to piss everyone off and open that can of worms. This is my final post on the Fighting Illini nickname. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmd9 Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 New WKU unis out. BFBS and chrome helmet. Ugh.WKU doesn't use black?The uniforms are terrible, but there's nothing wrong with the color choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaydre1019 Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Here's a better shot of the Oregon unis...it's VOLT and chrome all the way. There is also another set with the apple green jersey AND pants.If that's the same uniform as the other pictures, I'm gonna go ahead and assume its yellow. It would look sick with the yellow helmet, this one not so much.Do you have a picture to the other one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 I'm not finding fault with the nickname. I'm finding fault with a half-arsed attempt to spin the nickname. Original intent is meaningless when the school spends most of the next nine decades playing up the Native American component until the NCAA and Illini descendant tribes told them to stop.Well, neither one of us are going to change our minds on this. There are some incorrect statements in the quoted post above, but I'm not going to piss everyone off and open that can of worms. This is my final post on the Fighting Illini nickname.For the record, I'm from Illinois and my Uncle actually was Chief Illiniwek for two years. I'm not exactly ignorant about the mascot controversy. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdu Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 New WKU unis out. BFBS and chrome helmet. Ugh.WKU doesn't use black?The uniforms are terrible, but there's nothing wrong with the color choices.Good point. Everyone knows Miami's colors include black and yellow, you know, since they are in the logo...TCUCoachP@TCUCoachP Get ready for tomorrow because I will start giving you a peek of the LSU Game Uniform a little at a time! Game day is getting closer! #BAM#gofrogsBTW, uniforms will be black on black with an "interesting" purple/black helmet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lights Out Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 I'm a little confused by the fact that those appear to be Nike pants.That actually isn't terrible, by Russell's standards - I think I like it better than their previous look. POTD: 2/4/12 3/4/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy B Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 I'm not finding fault with the nickname. I'm finding fault with a half-arsed attempt to spin the nickname. Original intent is meaningless when the school spends most of the next nine decades playing up the Native American component until the NCAA and Illini descendant tribes told them to stop.I've gotta agree with rams on this one. If you ask anyone what they think of when they hear "Fighting Illini" almost everyone is going to say the chief. Even the people that know the original reference of the WWI soldiers think of the chief. It's hard not to when he was the school's symbol for 80 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coogrfan Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 I wish our new uni's looked half as good as this.Helmets suck, but the unis look pretty good.And, not that there was any doubt, but chrome helmets have officially jumped the shark.The chrome one is awful, but the others are ok, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuordr Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 New WKU unis out. BFBS and chrome helmet. Ugh.WKU doesn't use black?The uniforms are terrible, but there's nothing wrong with the color choices.As a former Alumni I can tell you that Black is officially part of the Universities colors. If you need further proof then look at the WKU Logo User Manual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuordr Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 I wish our new uni's looked half as good as this.Helmets suck, but the unis look pretty good.And, not that there was any doubt, but chrome helmets have officially jumped the shark.The chrome one is awful, but the others are ok, imo.Here is a video of Memphis introducing the new uniforms: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdu Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 No such thing as a former alum. Just because a school uses black in it's logo doesn't make it a school color. Same goes for the Web style guide (which doesn't even use black). Heck, Texas' uses navy blue, but no one thinks that is one of their colors. WKU's official colors, to my knowledge, are red and white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy MidGrady Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 No such thing as a former alum. Just because a school uses black in it's logo doesn't make it a school color. Same goes for the Web style guide (which doesn't even use black). Heck, Texas' uses navy blue, but no one thinks that is one of their colors. WKU's official colors, to my knowledge, are red and white.The logo guide says wku red, wku black and white is the school's colors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattb6 Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 What was wrong with the old WKU uniforms? Those are way better than what they went too. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brave-Bird 08 Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Paul Lukas is going to all over everything in his annual preview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuordr Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 No such thing as a former alum. Just because a school uses black in it's logo doesn't make it a school color. Same goes for the Web style guide (which doesn't even use black). Heck, Texas' uses navy blue, but no one thinks that is one of their colors. WKU's official colors, to my knowledge, are red and white.Alumni former Alumni...you get the gist of it....but WKU Football used black in the set before their last uniform and the basketball team has been using black for years. To your knowledge, you would be wrong! Their colors are Red, White, Black, and Gray. Oh, by the way, when I worked at WKU I worked on a Publications and I asked about our colors back in 2010 and I was told they were Red, White, Black and Gray. What was wrong with the old WKU uniforms? Those are way better than what they went too.Bobby Petrino prefers modern designs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest23 Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 No such thing as a former alum. Just because a school uses black in it's logo doesn't make it a school color. Same goes for the Web style guide (which doesn't even use black). Heck, Texas' uses navy blue, but no one thinks that is one of their colors. WKU's official colors, to my knowledge, are red and white.Alumni former Alumni...you get the gist of it....but WKU Football used black in the set before their last uniform and the basketball team has been using black for years. To your knowledge, you would be wrong! Their colors are Red, White, Black, and Gray. Oh, by the way, when I worked at WKU I worked on a Publications and I asked about our colors back in 2010 and I was told they were Red, White, Black and Gray.What was wrong with the old WKU uniforms? Those are way better than what they went too.Bobby Petrino prefers modern designs...and young ladies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilliesPhan1325 Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 The all chrome is just as bad as everyone else, but I actually really like that blue Memphis helmet. "The 0-2 pitch... SWING AND A MISS! STRUCK HIM OUT! THE PHILADELPHIA PHILLIES ARE 2008 WORLD CHAMPIONS OF BASEBALL!" J M yoU wish you had a Duke Dog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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