2013 NCAA FOOTBALL THREAD

[Kevin W.]

Don't doubt the Dread Pirate Leach. I'm sure he can make Wazzu at least decent, and where he goes from there, we'll see.

[Seadragon76]

Don't doubt the Dread Pirate Leach. I'm sure he can make Wazzu at least decent, and where he goes from there, we'll see.

Dude, Waz-Spew and decent should never, ever be in the same sentence. To me, seeing them in a bowl game was a joke... I mean, there's an 8-4 Western Kentucky team at home while 6-6 Waz-Spew is in a bowl game.

Fair? Don't think so. Oh, and I want them to go 0-12 next season and force them to shove Leach out the door because they'll always be the weakest link in the state of Washington in terms of football.

[FiddySicks]

I'm not so sure about Leach at Washington State. He's a pretty good coach, but his schemes have always seemed to be a bit on the difficult side to run, and when that's the case you need players who are actually talented enough to run them (Michael Crabtree and Graham Harrell, for example). Washington State doesn't have a single player even close to that caliber, so they usually end up just looking lost and overmatched out on the field. In the few games I've seen them in during the Mike Leach era (two vs ASU, one vs Colorado State) they basically took themselves out of the game because the deceptive plays they were trying to run to fool the defense basically only deceived themselves and they lost bad due to a lot of really brutal self-inflicted errors.

[dfwabel]

Don't doubt the Dread Pirate Leach. I'm sure he can make Wazzu at least decent, and where he goes from there, we'll see.

I'm not so sure about Leach at Washington State. He's a pretty good coach, but his schemes have always seemed to be a bit on the difficult side to run, and when that's the case you need players who are actually talented enough to run them (Michael Crabtree and Graham Harrell, for example). Washington State doesn't have a single player even close to that caliber, so they usually end up just looking lost and overmatched out on the field. In the few games I've seen them in during the Mike Leach era (two vs ASU, one vs Colorado State) they basically took themselves out of the game because the deceptive plays they were trying to run to fool the defense basically only deceived themselves and they lost bad due to a lot of really brutal self-inflicted errors.

Wazzu is going from the Wulf era when they were irrelevant into the typical college football purgatory with 5 to 7 wins a year.

Mike Leach's view on clock management is if there is time left, then there is time to throw the ball and score. When it fails, he places all the blame on the players. At least Les Miles blames himself for his mismanagement.

That attitude cost them the bowl game in both halves since he gave up a FG at the end of the 1st half because they did not force CSU to take their final timeout with a minute left and they threw the ball on a 3rd and 21 inside their own 10 and when all they had to do was to take a knee and they would have won the game.

[rams80]

Don't doubt the Dread Pirate Leach. I'm sure he can make Wazzu at least decent, and where he goes from there, we'll see.

Dude, Waz-Spew and decent should never, ever be in the same sentence. To me, seeing them in a bowl game was a joke... I mean, there's an 8-4 Western Kentucky team at home while 6-6 Waz-Spew is in a bowl game.

Fair? Don't think so. Oh, and I want them to go 0-12 next season and force them to shove Leach out the door because they'll always be the weakest link in the state of Washington in terms of football.

I thought that was a perpetually underachieving Washington team.

[dfwabel]

And yes, another bowl season with most schools (and conferences) left with thousands of unsold tickets as fans do not buy through the athletic department and go to the secondary market.

While the Rose Bowl and Holiday Bowl easily sold out,

UCF returned 10,000 Fiesta Bowl tickets.

LSU returned 6,000 Outback Bowl tickets (half of their allotment).

Michigan returned 4,500 tickets for the Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl (half of their allotment)

Georgia "hopes"to sell 50% of their allotment.

I love the bulls*it quote from Ohio State AD, Gene Smith on ticket guarantees, "“a hard business model that we keep fighting.”

The schools have and still have the power to change the business modes because you are the product and have the power to scrap the bowl system rather than accept their kickbacks like free cruises and travel for upper administration.

[Raysfan12]

Don't doubt the Dread Pirate Leach. I'm sure he can make Wazzu at least decent, and where he goes from there, we'll see.

Dude, Waz-Spew and decent should never, ever be in the same sentence. To me, seeing them in a bowl game was a joke... I mean, there's an 8-4 Western Kentucky team at home while 6-6 Waz-Spew is in a bowl game.

Fair? Don't think so. Oh, and I want them to go 0-12 next season and force them to shove Leach out the door because they'll always be the weakest link in the state of Washington in terms of football.

Bucfan is right on this one though. Washington State was actually pretty good before the Wulf era came especially when they went to the Rose Bowl in 2002 during the Mike Price era. I think Wazzu has the right coach in Mike Leach, but until they get solid talent, they will win about 6-7 games every year.

[dfwabel]

Don't doubt the Dread Pirate Leach. I'm sure he can make Wazzu at least decent, and where he goes from there, we'll see.

Dude, Waz-Spew and decent should never, ever be in the same sentence. To me, seeing them in a bowl game was a joke... I mean, there's an 8-4 Western Kentucky team at home while 6-6 Waz-Spew is in a bowl game.

Fair? Don't think so. Oh, and I want them to go 0-12 next season and force them to shove Leach out the door because they'll always be the weakest link in the state of Washington in terms of football.

Bucfan is right on this one though. Washington State was actually pretty good before the Wulf era came especially when they went to the Rose Bowl in 2002 during the Mike Price era. I think Wazzu has the right coach in Mike Leach, but until they get solid talent, they will win about 6-7 games every year.

Six wins a season was what they had immediately after Price with Bill Doba. Then came the Wulff era.

Today, six or seven wins a year means at best three Pac-12 wins since three or more wins should occur via non-conference scheduling. Being under-.500 in conference gets typically gets you fired.

They are not going to challenge Oregon and Stanford, so they are playing for 3rd place from the start of spring practice.

[bosrs1]

And yes, another bowl season with most schools (and conferences) left with thousands of unsold tickets as fans do not buy through the athletic department and go to the secondary market.

While the Rose Bowl and Holiday Bowl easily sold out,

UCF returned 10,000 Fiesta Bowl tickets.

LSU returned 6,000 Outback Bowl tickets (half of their allotment).

Michigan returned 4,500 tickets for the Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl (half of their allotment)

Georgia "hopes"to sell 50% of their allotment.

I love the bulls*it quote from Ohio State AD, Gene Smith on ticket guarantees, "“a hard business model that we keep fighting.”

The schools have and still have the power to change the business modes because you are the product and have the power to scrap the bowl system rather than accept their kickbacks like free cruises and travel for upper administration.

With the inflated prices they charge who could ever be shocked by that. I just looked at the Holiday Bowl curious as to what they're selling those for and nosebleeds are 80 bucks. They've got to be smoking crack...

[FiddySicks]

And yes, another bowl season with most schools (and conferences) left with thousands of unsold tickets as fans do not buy through the athletic department and go to the secondary market.

While the Rose Bowl and Holiday Bowl easily sold out,

UCF returned 10,000 Fiesta Bowl tickets.

LSU returned 6,000 Outback Bowl tickets (half of their allotment).

Michigan returned 4,500 tickets for the Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl (half of their allotment)

Georgia "hopes"to sell 50% of their allotment.

I love the bulls*it quote from Ohio State AD, Gene Smith on ticket guarantees, "a hard business model that we keep fighting.

The schools have and still have the power to change the business modes because you are the product and have the power to scrap the bowl system rather than accept their kickbacks like free cruises and travel for upper administration.

With the inflated prices they charge who could ever be shocked by that. I just looked at the Holiday Bowl curious as to what they're selling those for and nosebleeds are 80 bucks. They've got to be smoking crack...

No freaking way. I just picked up four lower bowl tickets for about $10 each from StubHub.

FWIW, I almost NEVER get ASU tickets through the school (the lone exception being trips through the alumni association). They're a huge ripoff and will nickel and dime you to death any chance they get.

[Kramerica Industries]

Bowl game ticket prices and allotment can't be in completely awful shape, can they? I mean, I haven't been able to find a ticket to the Florida Gators bowl game ANYWHERE in the last three weeks.

[dfwabel]

Of the 35 bowl/BCS games, only 15 teams sold out their allotment before their deadline, per uber-Tweeter Darren Rovell.

Auburn

Florida State

Stanford

Michigan State

Vandy

Mizzou

Rutgers

Notre Dame

Alabama

Texas

Oklahoma

Mississippi State

Ole Miss

Bowling Green

Oregon

Outside of the Ducks, most of these teams are basically within a day's drive, <300 miles, from the game site (BGSU,Texas, Miss St, Ole Miss, Vandy, Stanford) or the game like the Pinstripe Bowl is on a Saturday with a local team and a national opponent (Rutgers vs. Notre Dame).

[Still MIGHTY]

And yes, another bowl season with most schools (and conferences) left with thousands of unsold tickets as fans do not buy through the athletic department and go to the secondary market.

While the Rose Bowl and Holiday Bowl easily sold out,

UCF returned 10,000 Fiesta Bowl tickets.

LSU returned 6,000 Outback Bowl tickets (half of their allotment).

Michigan returned 4,500 tickets for the Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl (half of their allotment)

Georgia "hopes"to sell 50% of their allotment.

I love the bulls*it quote from Ohio State AD, Gene Smith on ticket guarantees, "a hard business model that we keep fighting.

The schools have and still have the power to change the business modes because you are the product and have the power to scrap the bowl system rather than accept their kickbacks like free cruises and travel for upper administration.

With the inflated prices they charge who could ever be shocked by that. I just looked at the Holiday Bowl curious as to what they're selling those for and nosebleeds are 80 bucks. They've got to be smoking crack...

No freaking way. I just picked up four lower bowl tickets for about $10 each from StubHub.

FWIW, I almost NEVER get ASU tickets through the school (the lone exception being trips through the alumni association). They're a huge ripoff and will nickel and dime you to death any chance they get.

True and true.

I got $40 tickets on StubHub like three weeks ago for the Holiday Bowl. The "face value" on these bowl tickets is absurd.

[Raysfan12]

This Louisville defense is just ridiculously amazing (Held the "U" to 82 total yards) and Teddy keeps getting better since the Cincinnati game. I'm just praying that they don't collapse like the UCF game. And of course, Go Cards!

EDIT: I expected Louisville to beat Miami but I never expected this to be an absolute blowout. 36-2 Cards! Why haven't they played like this against UCF. I'm really going to miss Teddy Bridgewater next year and hoping for the best for him in the future for being the class act he is.

[Gary]

I'll be right behind the K-State endzone if anyone wants to see me at athe Buffalo Wild Wild Wings Bowl tonight

[Raysfan12]

Teddy put on a show tonight against Miami with over 400 yards and 3 TD's in probably the last game of his UofL career. Thank you Teddy Bridgewater for bring the Cards to National prominence! 2013 Russell Athletic Bowl Champs!

[Seadragon76]

Teddy put on a show tonight against Miami with over 400 yards and 3 TD's in probably the last game of his UofL career. Thank you Teddy Bridgewater for bring the Cards to National prominence! 2013 Russell Athletic Bowl Champs!

Whoop-de-freaking-doo. I mean, being Russell Athletic Bowl champs is kinda like being the tallest midget: Nobody is going to give a rat's ass.

[Midway]

The Bears broke my heart today. Texas Tech, I need you now more than ever to not to be your typical selves tomorrow and pummel ASU. Wreck Em!

[FiddySicks]

The Bears broke my heart today. Texas Tech, I need you now more than ever to not to be your typical selves tomorrow and pummel ASU. Wreck Em!

NOPE! FORK EM, DEVS!!!

I'll be there going nuts with the rest of the Sun Devil faithful. Sure, it's not the Rose Bowl, but I'm still pretty excited.

[DS729]

The Bears broke my heart today. Texas Tech, I need you now more than ever to not to be your typical selves tomorrow and pummel ASU. Wreck Em!

Yeah, there's a pretty-decent sized ASU faithful on this board (3-5 guys).