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Anaheim, LA, Phoenix, and San José have no problem sending guys to and from Virginia, New Hampshire, Maine, and Massachusetts.

Yes, but you underestimate the petulance of the Vancouver Canucks. They want an AHL team in their backyard and they don't care if it drags the whole league down, by G-d!

Anaheim, LA, Phoenix, and San José have no problem sending guys to and from Virginia, New Hampshire, Maine, and Massachusetts.

I'm sure they do have a problem with it, but they aren't willing to shoehorn a team where it doesn't belong.

Just more of a reason that the AAA level of hockey needs to be split up into at least two... but probably three or four... separate leagues. If it's that important to have a singular champion, they could always have a "tournament of champions" at the end of the season.

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This has to happen. It's like when that one wrestling federation had shows inside a big pink cube.

That would be the AWA.... one of the original "big three" (along with the NWA and WWWF) and arguably the top promotion in the world before the 80s boom. How telling is it that even people who live in their old territory (Illinois-Minnesota-Wisconsin) barely remember their name?

I couldn't remember if it was the AWA or the UWF. Defunct wrestling promotion acronyms just sort of float in the ether of my mind at this stage of my life.

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So Abbotsford could end up taking out the Quad Cities and Peoria? Ugh. It just makes no sense. (Geographically anyway. I traveled down to a Rivs-Wolves game during the lockout and the crowd was no better than what's pictured. Probably worse. Just a one-game sample size, though.)

I suppose the Rivermen will be back to the ECHL before you know it, or else the Central would welcome them to the a QC/Bloomington triangle. Heck, they might even offer to run the team. :)

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Abbotsford's number would be a lot lower, too, if the league didn't specially re-jigger the schedule just for them to give them 4 home sellouts against the Wolves.

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That would be nice to see Peoria in the ECHL.

Gotta admit the ECHL was smart when the WCHL was absorbed into the league. You have a league that is spread out over the continent, yet they never play against each other until the Finals.

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So Abbotsford could end up taking out the Quad Cities and Peoria? Ugh. It just makes no sense. (Geographically anyway. I traveled down to a Rivs-Wolves game during the lockout and the crowd was no better than what's pictured. Probably worse. Just a one-game sample size, though.)

I suppose the Rivermen will be back to the ECHL before you know it, or else the Central would welcome them to the a QC/Bloomington triangle. Heck, they might even offer to run the team. :)

Yeah, aren't one or both of those teams under league control at the moment? I think I'll hold out hope for the ECHL or that something else happens in the AHL first. Since apparently one message board rumor (from a poster who has historically known a thing or two about league machinations) mentioned prior to yesterday's report that there was going to possibly be a chain reaction, but that Houston was going to also be involved; evidently the Toyota Center has no interest in keeping the Aeros around, so when the lease is up after this season, the Wild are going to pull them out and set up shop in Peoria (which would be open because of them moving to Abbotsford, and Abbotsford moving to Utica.)

I'm only inclined to put stock in it because this predates those reports and the Wild being rumored to leave/being forced out of Houston has been mentioned elsewhere.

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This has to happen. It's like when that one wrestling federation had shows inside a big pink cube.

That would be the AWA.... one of the original "big three" (along with the NWA and WWWF) and arguably the top promotion in the world before the 80s boom. How telling is it that even people who live in their old territory (Illinois-Minnesota-Wisconsin) barely remember their name?

I couldn't remember if it was the AWA or the UWF. Defunct wrestling promotion acronyms just sort of float in the ether of my mind at this stage of my life.

Most people around here have no idea what the AWA was unless I say "The promotion The Crusher wrestled for."

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Abbotsford bottom of the league in attendance. Honestly, only the top 11-13 have strong attendance.

Abbotsford is the AHL's Phoenix, except without the league ownership part. I guess the suits in Springfield aren't smarter than their NYC brethren after all.

So, does that mean we should start using OITGDAHL as well?

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This has to happen. It's like when that one wrestling federation had shows inside a big pink cube.

That would be the AWA.... one of the original "big three" (along with the NWA and WWWF) and arguably the top promotion in the world before the 80s boom. How telling is it that even people who live in their old territory (Illinois-Minnesota-Wisconsin) barely remember their name?

I couldn't remember if it was the AWA or the UWF. Defunct wrestling promotion acronyms just sort of float in the ether of my mind at this stage of my life.

Most people around here have no idea what the AWA was unless I say "The promotion The Crusher wrestled for."

Nick Bockwinkel FTW.

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http://theahl.com/st...view=attendance

Abbotsford bottom of the league in attendance. Honestly, only the top 11-13 have strong attendance.

Abbotsford is the AHL's Phoenix, except without the league ownership part. I guess the suits in Springfield aren't smarter than their NYC brethren after all.

So, does that mean we should start using OITGDAHL as well?

I think league-owned is an important part of OITGD-level craziness. It's one thing when multiple ownership groups try to force a team in a city where it doesn't belong, but it's a whole different thing when the league itself is propping up a team in a market where nobody wants to buy it.

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So Abbotsford could end up taking out the Quad Cities and Peoria? Ugh. It just makes no sense. (Geographically anyway. I traveled down to a Rivs-Wolves game during the lockout and the crowd was no better than what's pictured. Probably worse. Just a one-game sample size, though.)

I suppose the Rivermen will be back to the ECHL before you know it, or else the Central would welcome them to the a QC/Bloomington triangle. Heck, they might even offer to run the team. :)

Yeah, aren't one or both of those teams under league control at the moment? I think I'll hold out hope for the ECHL or that something else happens in the AHL first. Since apparently one message board rumor (from a poster who has historically known a thing or two about league machinations) mentioned prior to yesterday's report that there was going to possibly be a chain reaction, but that Houston was going to also be involved; evidently the Toyota Center has no interest in keeping the Aeros around, so when the lease is up after this season, the Wild are going to pull them out and set up shop in Peoria (which would be open because of them moving to Abbotsford, and Abbotsford moving to Utica.)

I'm only inclined to put stock in it because this predates those reports and the Wild being rumored to leave/being forced out of Houston has been mentioned elsewhere.

QC is league-owned. As far as I know Bloomington is not. They did an ownership change when they went from the PrairieThunder to the Blaze, and also became an "official" CHL team. (There was that IHL pseudo-merger that blurred things for a while.) The Mallards are not only CHL now, but owned by the CHL, and I think they signed a lease extension to "show some stability" after 3 owners in 3 years or some such.

And wow on Houston. Too bad.

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Wow...the Aeros have been around a while haven't they?

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Wow...the Aeros have been around a while haven't they?

I think the Aeros have been around in some form since the WHA days.

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Rumors and hearsay from Worcester

Relevant quote:

• Things have quieted down, at least publicly, since reports surfaced that Utica was going to have an AHL team for the next 10 years. No one has yet confirmed that under oath, though, and it seems as though Utica’s AHL return would be more along the lines of a rest stop than a decade.

There will be some affiliate musical chairs stuff going on, with Vancouver said to be heading to Abbotsford and Calgary somewhere. Houston is having lease issues and, perhaps, Des Moines could be back in the league.

One of the more interesting topics is the future of the former IceCats franchise, currently in Peoria. The Blues could move their affiliation to Chicago to replace the Canucks there. However, St. Louis owns the Peoria franchise — perhaps the Flames could buy it — and, as Virgil Tibbs said during “In the Heat of the Night” while exonerating a suspect — Sam couldn’t have driven two cars. Or two AHL teams. One possible catch — the Wolves would like John Anderson back as coach no matter who they are affiliated with

I'm conflicted....Being the Flames farm team would mean the Rivermen would still live (unless Calgary did something stupid and named them the Firemen and they'd be stupid and do that wouldn't they), but it's almost an extended death sentence for the team. Gee, it's like choosing between being shot in head or getting 3 types of uncurable cancer. Good times!

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Hm... that's a shame if it's true about Houston. They were always a force to be reckoned with in the IHL days... If Houston has no place in the AHL, they definitely don't in the NHL.

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Hm... that's a shame if it's true about Houston. They were always a force to be reckoned with in the IHL days... If Houston has no place in the AHL, they definitely don't in the NHL.

That's too bad...I've heard many say that the Toyota Center would make an incredible NHL venue.

But it's all good-looks like we will be seeing the Iowa Wild as an AHL team in 2013-14.

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Hm... that's a shame if it's true about Houston. They were always a force to be reckoned with in the IHL days... If Houston has no place in the AHL, they definitely don't in the NHL.

That's too bad...I've heard many say that the Toyota Center would make an incredible NHL venue.

But it's all good-looks like we will be seeing the Iowa Wild as an AHL team in 2013-14.

At least the Wild won't be stupid enough to use the franchise as collateral in some questionable personal loan.

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