bleuet Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I'd say bogus. The helmet model is old. They usually use newer helmets to make color tests.Raiders is a classic. Ain't broke? Don't fix it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruColor Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I've been hoping for years now for a Black facemask on the Raiders helmet...once, in a Pro Bowl, Marcus Allen wore a helmet with a Black mask:...thought this was a change into the next season, but it turned out to be a one-time thing.I used to have another picture from the game in color (from the USA Today sports section), but have lost it over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8BW14 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 It has a black chinstrap. Dont know if that means anything but i have never seen an NFL helmet with a colored chinstrap. Is that even allowed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac the Knife Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 So shouldn't the raider be wearing a black helmet as well?If you're gonna be literal about it, then he'll need a facemask too.and he'll have to lose the Members Only jacket.It's a chinstrap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Raiders logo needs a makeover bad. For the persona they want to have along with their fan base, the grinning clean shaven pirate on their logo is Rediculous.I disagree. At this point, the Raiders logo is just the Raiders logo, and it's supported by enough mythology and ancillary imagery that you can't worry all that much about the face of the guy. If they changed it to a skeleton zombie pirate or something, they'd just be overplaying their hand, and the Buccaneers are already skeleton zombie pirates now, anyway.Exactly.Also it's the Raiders' logo. It's the perfect fit for this team. It's kind of crummy and outdated, but who cares? Being scummy and unpleasant is kind of what the Raiders are all about (and I say that in the best possible way). PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OaklandRaider Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 As a die hard fan, I know most of the fan base will never be ok with a make over. Traditional ties and the last few things that still go back to Al Davis. I personally wouldn't mind a update to refresh it a bit. The problem is the helmet. How do you add a modern helmet with a face mask to that logo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMU Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 The Raiders need a logo redesign if for no other reason that all the Raider fans in LA plaster their cars with window stickers with skulls replacing the pirate anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illwauk Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I want really bad to hate this helmet, yet I don't. Then again, I've also suggested a black field for the Raiders in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouj Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Shouldn't the two guys from the 2014 thread be in here trying to say the Raiders are the team changing, just to sell their rumors?And before anyone freaks out: I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF ANY RAIDERS CHANGES. I AM MERELY COMMENTING ON THE GUYS WHO BROUGHT UP POTENTIAL RADICAL CHANGES IN ANOTHER THREAD.I had to go all caps so no one tries to claim this post is confirmation of a completely made-up rumor. Go Astros!Go Texans!Go Rockets!Go Javelinas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illwauk Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Shouldn't the two guys from the 2014 thread be in here trying to say the Raiders are the team changing, just to sell their rumors?I wasn't going to be the one to bring it up here, buuuuuut......... this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BelfourThibault Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I know that the people on this board, we're all a little different than most in that a lot of us are always looking for ways to improve logos and uniforms. No problem with that at all, as it sparks conversation and brings out different opinions. With that said, some things should never be changed. In my opinion, the Raiders logo/uniform is one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coast2CoastAM2006 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Shouldn't the two guys from the 2014 thread be in here trying to say the Raiders are the team changing, just to sell their rumors?And before anyone freaks out: I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF ANY RAIDERS CHANGES. I AM MERELY COMMENTING ON THE GUYS WHO BROUGHT UP POTENTIAL RADICAL CHANGES IN ANOTHER THREAD.I had to go all caps so no one tries to claim this post is confirmation of a completely made-up rumor.they were just trolling. I wouldn't read much into it. Spoilers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizzaman7294 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Here's what my high school's helmets looked like with black facemasks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckymack Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Nevermind. Sigs are for sissies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSky Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Raiders RB Mike Woodson posted this to instagram.What I find interesting here is what looks like an underlying metalflake or almost holographic-looking pattern that's most evident around the light-colored reflection. If you look closely it definitely appears to be a pattern of some kind and even on the dark parts of the helmet it looks like something's there.I have no idea what a determined amateur could accomplish these days so I have no idea whether it's significant (if anything's there at all).Personally I think the Raiders' helmet would look pretty good if they did away with the shield, pirate, and wordmark and just had a big version of the swords.The "shouldn't the pirate be wearing a black helmet" comment was pretty hilarious btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sec19Row53 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Raiders RB Mike Woodson posted this to instagram.What I find interesting here is what looks like an underlying metalflake or almost holographic-looking pattern that's most evident around the light-colored reflection. If you look closely it definitely appears to be a pattern of some kind and even on the dark parts of the helmet it looks like something's there.I have no idea what a determined amateur could accomplish these days so I have no idea whether it's significant (if anything's there at all).The "shouldn't the pirate be wearing a black helmet" comment was pretty hilarious btw.I believe that is just a reflection on a well-polished helmet. It's where I sit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claystation360 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Raiders logo needs a makeover bad. For the persona they want to have along with their fan base, the grinning clean shaven pirate on their logo is Rediculous.I disagree. At this point, the Raiders logo is just the Raiders logo, and it's supported by enough mythology and ancillary imagery that you can't worry all that much about the face of the guy. If they changed it to a skeleton zombie pirate or something, they'd just be overplaying their hand, and the Buccaneers are already skeleton zombie pirates now, anyway.Even if they did some nice modernizing to the logo & shield & swords which it could use but keep the base idea and not go all out skull ripping off Tampa or zombie raider & what not. I'm sure Al Davis would find a way to sue his son & the NFL perhaps even the Buccaneers from beyond the grave. #DTWD #GoJaguars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandMooreArt Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 im not a big fan of the Raiders logo. it's an okay piece of art at best. but theres so much built into this brand that this logo represents i would never advise them to change it. you dont even need to change the type or any lines really, it all works just fine in every application. the uniforms are perfectly timeless. some things should be sacred and i think the Raiders identity is one of them. Â GRAPHIC ARTIST BEHANCE Â / Â MEDIUMÂ / Â DRIBBBLE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 The Raiders have the perfect NFL uniform. There is not one thing that can be done (or should be done) to improve their look - including that helmet.Couldn't agree more.But remember - they know it as well. That's why they didn't adopt the new Nike template. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmd9 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Surprised no one's said BFBS yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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