bosrs1 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Defense hasn't even had a chance to refute the charges...everything is one sided right now. Looks bad for Hernandez, but I've been around criminal cases before where not everything was how it seemed initially. There is a reason the folks sitting on a jersey are supposed to believe innocent until PROVEN guilty.Defense has their work cut out for them to put it mildly.If what we're hearing is true... yeah they do. The specificity of what the prosecution was saying seems to indicate they've got a first hand account (they probably rolled one of the other two guys). Unless I'm mistaken they've got the murder weapon which belongs to Hernandez and was found either in the house, they've got video of him with it before AND after the murder at the house. They've got the tracking of the cell phone down to the location of the murder in a 4 minute window. They've got the shell casing.Not saying it's a slam dunk by any means, but I wouldn't want to be his defense attorney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Defense hasn't even had a chance to refute the charges...everything is one sided right now. Looks bad for Hernandez, but I've been around criminal cases before where not everything was how it seemed initially. There is a reason the folks sitting on a jersey are supposed to believe innocent until PROVEN guilty.Defense has their work cut out for them to put it mildly.If what we're hearing is true... yeah they do. The specificity of what the prosecution was saying seems to indicate they've got a first hand account (they probably rolled one of the other two guys). Unless I'm mistaken they've got the murder weapon which belongs to Hernandez and was found either in the house, they've got video of him with it before AND after the murder at the house. They've got the tracking of the cell phone down to the location of the murder in a 4 minute window. They've got the shell casing.Not saying it's a slam dunk by any means, but I wouldn't want to be his defense attorney.Law enforcement has yet to retrieve the weapon used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeypower Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Defense hasn't even had a chance to refute the charges...everything is one sided right now. Looks bad for Hernandez, but I've been around criminal cases before where not everything was how it seemed initially. There is a reason the folks sitting on a jersey are supposed to believe innocent until PROVEN guilty.Defense has their work cut out for them to put it mildly.If what we're hearing is true... yeah they do. The specificity of what the prosecution was saying seems to indicate they've got a first hand account (they probably rolled one of the other two guys). Unless I'm mistaken they've got the murder weapon which belongs to Hernandez and was found either in the house, they've got video of him with it before AND after the murder at the house. They've got the tracking of the cell phone down to the location of the murder in a 4 minute window. They've got the shell casing.Not saying it's a slam dunk by any means, but I wouldn't want to be his defense attorney.I don't know if this has been brought up but a possible major piece of evidence against Hernandez is Cotton Candy Bubblicious gum. The source is from TMZ who may or may not be the best to get sources from in a murder case.During the hearing, prosecutors say they can prove Hernandez stopped at a gas station hours before the murder and purchased gas, cigarettes and BLUE COTTON CANDY FLAVORED BUBBLICIOUS BUBBLE GUM.After Odin was murdered, investigators say they found a shell casing in his rental car that matched the caliber of the bullet used to kill the 27-year-old ... and next to the casing -- A CHEWED PIECE OF BLUE COTTON CANDY FLAVORED BUBBLICIOUS BUBBLE GUM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCall Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 If they can get and match Hernandez's DNA from the gum, then yeah. https://dribbble.com/MakaioCall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pianoknight Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Defense hasn't even had a chance to refute the charges...everything is one sided right now. Looks bad for Hernandez, but I've been around criminal cases before where not everything was how it seemed initially. There is a reason the folks sitting on a jersey are supposed to believe innocent until PROVEN guilty.Defense has their work cut out for them to put it mildly.If what we're hearing is true... yeah they do. The specificity of what the prosecution was saying seems to indicate they've got a first hand account (they probably rolled one of the other two guys). Unless I'm mistaken they've got the murder weapon which belongs to Hernandez and was found either in the house, they've got video of him with it before AND after the murder at the house. They've got the tracking of the cell phone down to the location of the murder in a 4 minute window. They've got the shell casing.Not saying it's a slam dunk by any means, but I wouldn't want to be his defense attorney.I don't know if this has been brought up but a possible major piece of evidence against Hernandez is Cotton Candy Bubblicious gum. The source is from TMZ who may or may not be the best to get sources from in a murder case.During the hearing, prosecutors say they can prove Hernandez stopped at a gas station hours before the murder and purchased gas, cigarettes and BLUE COTTON CANDY FLAVORED BUBBLICIOUS BUBBLE GUM.After Odin was murdered, investigators say they found a shell casing in his rental car that matched the caliber of the bullet used to kill the 27-year-old ... and next to the casing -- A CHEWED PIECE OF BLUE COTTON CANDY FLAVORED BUBBLICIOUS BUBBLE GUM.That's not quite a smoking gun, but it's certainly a strong indicator of Hernandez' involvement. I'm not gum expert, but it seems that brands like Orbit, Eclipse and Five pretty much rule the roost right now. Bubblicious is certainly behind those brands in terms of prevalence and it's likely behind even established brands like Big Red, Juicy Fruit or DoubleMint, too. It's basically akin to a murderer driving a neon Gremlin with racing stripes from the murder scene. I'm sure there is more than one striped Gremlin in America, but the odds are not in Hernandez' favor. 5th in NAT. TITLES | 2nd in CONF. TITLES | 5th in HEISMAN | 7th in DRAFTS | 8th in ALL-AMER | 7th in WINS | 4th in BOWLS | 1st in SELLOUTS | 1st GAMEDAY SIGN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCCoachArete Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 According to account yesterday, they are still looking for the murder weapon...were talking about going back to the lake to look again. I assume they have a witness...doesn't mean it's a reliable one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Well here is something, they say there were two other people with Hernandez and the victim in the car. A report says another person was charged along with Hernandez. This could be the third person spilled the beans, dished the scoop, sang like a cannary, squealed like a pig and sninched on Hernandez www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pianoknight Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 SELFIES! 5th in NAT. TITLES | 2nd in CONF. TITLES | 5th in HEISMAN | 7th in DRAFTS | 8th in ALL-AMER | 7th in WINS | 4th in BOWLS | 1st in SELLOUTS | 1st GAMEDAY SIGN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattb6 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 did anyone else pick up their new aaron hernandez jersey?all jokes aside.... this guy is in some deep trouble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramerica Industries Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Even if Aaron wasn't the actual killer, there is so much here to link him to serious crime here that he's pretty much doomed to time behind bars here and an uphill climb to ever play in the NFL again.He's earned it. What a dumbass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lights Out Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Now he's being investigated in a 2012 double murder case:http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/6/27/4470158/aaron-hernandez-murder-investigation-patriots POTD: 2/4/12 3/4/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattb6 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Now he's being investigated in a 2012 double murder case:http://www.sbnation....gation-patriotswow. the bad things just keep piling on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Now he's being investigated in a 2012 double murder case:http://www.sbnation....gation-patriotsReally hoping Boston PD's just covering their bases from their "lukewarm case" files. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosrs1 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Now he's being investigated in a 2012 double murder case:http://www.sbnation....gation-patriotswow. the bad things just keep piling on.Well when you're a bad person, or are dumb enough to keep putting yourself in bad situations, it's going to bite you in the ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattb6 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Denied bail. I'm glad. Don't want the chance of him fleeing or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosrs1 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Denied bail. I'm glad. Don't want the chance of him fleeing or somethingJudge sure seemed like he already thinks the guy is guilty doesn't he. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Island_Style Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Denied bail. I'm glad. Don't want the chance of him fleeing or somethingJudge sure seemed like he already thinks the guy is guilty doesn't he.When looking at bail cases that is kind of what they have to do. No bail means it doesn't look good for him at all. As in, the case is strong against him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosrs1 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Denied bail. I'm glad. Don't want the chance of him fleeing or somethingJudge sure seemed like he already thinks the guy is guilty doesn't he.When looking at bail cases that is kind of what they have to do. No bail means it doesn't look good for him at all. As in, the case is strong against him.Considering the timeline the prosecution presented which has him on time stamped video recordings doing everything BUT pulling the trigger... and then add in the shell casings found at the scene matching the gun Hernandez owned and him being videotapped with said gun 3 hours before the murder and now said gun is mysteriously missing... yeah I'd say their case is pretty good. His defense team better be F. Lee Bailey, zombie-Johnnie Cochran, Robert Shapiro and zombie-Robert Kardashian or he looks to be quite hosed.http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/prosecution-details-events-says-led-odin-lloyd-murder-204349177.htmlBig brother is always watching Aaron, and in this case he was watching YOU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 All the documents in this case are sealed, and there were reports that two others were with Hernandez that evening (but they are unnamed). Those two or one.is likely to have given information or the DA knows that Hernandez has so much to lose and charge him the heaviest charge and see who talks.His counsel can still work for acquittal through any loophole the sealed docs to establish "reasonable doubt" or start to bring up possibilities of a plea agreement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Defense hasn't even had a chance to refute the charges...everything is one sided right now. Looks bad for Hernandez, but I've been around criminal cases before where not everything was how it seemed initially. There is a reason the folks sitting on a jersey are supposed to believe innocent until PROVEN guilty.Defense has their work cut out for them to put it mildly.If what we're hearing is true... yeah they do. The specificity of what the prosecution was saying seems to indicate they've got a first hand account (they probably rolled one of the other two guys). Unless I'm mistaken they've got the murder weapon which belongs to Hernandez and was found either in the house, they've got video of him with it before AND after the murder at the house. They've got the tracking of the cell phone down to the location of the murder in a 4 minute window. They've got the shell casing.Not saying it's a slam dunk by any means, but I wouldn't want to be his defense attorney.I don't know if this has been brought up but a possible major piece of evidence against Hernandez is Cotton Candy Bubblicious gum. The source is from TMZ who may or may not be the best to get sources from in a murder case.During the hearing, prosecutors say they can prove Hernandez stopped at a gas station hours before the murder and purchased gas, cigarettes and BLUE COTTON CANDY FLAVORED BUBBLICIOUS BUBBLE GUM.After Odin was murdered, investigators say they found a shell casing in his rental car that matched the caliber of the bullet used to kill the 27-year-old ... and next to the casing -- A CHEWED PIECE OF BLUE COTTON CANDY FLAVORED BUBBLICIOUS BUBBLE GUM.That's not quite a smoking gun, It's a smoking.......gum. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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