dgthree Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 I know this only a proposal, but there has to be more behind this, right? Why would a huge project (1 Billion dollars) like this include a stadium without there at least being some logical reasoning.http://www.mlive.com...t_river_default Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeypower Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 I don't think Detroit is in any position to do that sort of thing right now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Motors FC, or FC Racing Detroit. I like the sound of the name, anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil G Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 They'd probably have to play in Ford Field with the city's bankruptcy and all, Bruh check out my last.fm And my Rate Your Music Fantasy Teams: Seattle Spacemen (CFA) Signature credit to Silent Wind of Doom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil G Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Yay! Private funds! Bruh check out my last.fm And my Rate Your Music Fantasy Teams: Seattle Spacemen (CFA) Signature credit to Silent Wind of Doom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 I've seen this game. They're saying private funds, but Detroit's going to be on the hook for the overruns and oh look at all those overruns. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Just keep in mind that the Apostolopoulos bought the Silverdome for $585K years ago, has done nothing to it, wants a five year property tax break and has yet to do anything but let the teflon roof tear apart in January only to claim, "renovations were under way". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerslionspistonshabs Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Sounds cool, as long as it's privately funded, which it won't be. There is no way to justify building this, or the new Wings arena, with any taxpayers money with the city in the condition it's in. Hundreds of other things on the priority list right now. Motor City FC ftw. Anything else= fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 I can think of about five cities that should get the MLS before Detroit.OrlandoMiamiSan AntonioAtlantaGlendale www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgthree Posted July 25, 2013 Author Share Posted July 25, 2013 They'd probably have to play in Ford Field with the city's bankruptcy and all,Or they could build this stadium. It's not like they'll building it with taxpayer money, what? they're not! Oh, good. The new Red Wing Arena on the other hand is using taxpayer money, regardless of the bankruptcy they are still building it.Except, the funds for the new Red Wings arena are not general taxpayer funds. They are "hotel/luxury bed" funds which can only be used for convention centers/other public similar uses. This comes up all the time with stadiums (huge debate about Marlins Field), but there are not many uses they can make with the funds. Also, the bankruptcy is an issue of future pension debt and not current market strength. While the city is not in good condition, the bankruptcy is a way to get off the hook for pension liabilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luigi74 Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 I doubt these guys even have enough money to clear the site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgthree Posted July 25, 2013 Author Share Posted July 25, 2013 I doubt these guys even have enough money to clear the site.The site is cleared, the issue is if the jail is scrapped can they use what is already there to build their buildings or will they need to take down what has been built. Even if they have to clear what has been built, it is not that significant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GFB Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 I can think of about five cities that should get the MLS before Detroit.OrlandoMiamiSan AntonioAtlantaGlendale The city is a wreck to be sure, but if you're talking about soccer interest levels, Michigan is one of the best states in the country for youth soccer. We have 2 of the top 12 youth clubs in the country (Michigan Wolves/Hawks and Vardar) and the recent NPSL team, Detroit City FC, has gained a cult following despite playing at a public high school in Detroit. Again, there's no money IN the city, but there's plenty enough in the suburbs to support an MLS team...of course it would be a much less risky investment 10 years or so down the road compared to jumping in right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerslionspistonshabs Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 I do like the idea of the underground plazas. Make it an 'Underground City' similar to what they have in Montreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 If it can be built without a single cent coming from the city then why not? PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerslionspistonshabs Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 I can think of about five cities that should get the MLS before Detroit.OrlandoMiamiSan AntonioAtlantaGlendale The city is a wreck to be sure, but if you're talking about soccer interest levels, Michigan is one of the best states in the country for youth soccer. We have 2 of the top 12 youth clubs in the country (Michigan Wolves/Hawks and Vardar) and the recent NPSL team, Detroit City FC, has gained a cult following despite playing at a public high school in Detroit. Again, there's no money IN the city, but there's plenty enough in the suburbs to support an MLS team...of course it would be a much less risky investment 10 years or so down the road compared to jumping in right now.Agreed 100%. I really thought a team would pick up in the Silverdome, which has the potential to still be a good stadium even if they rip the roof off. Then again, Pontiac is in almost as bad of shape as Detroit is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burkell007 Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 I can think of about five cities that should get the MLS before Detroit.OrlandoMiamiSan AntonioAtlantaGlendale I'd say St. Louis and Tampa bay are 1&2 on mls explanation lists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmee Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 I can think of about five cities that should get the MLS before Detroit.OrlandoMiamiSan AntonioAtlantaGlendale I'd say St. Louis and Tampa bay are 1&2 on mls explanation lists1- What's an explanation list?2- lolwut? Based on any actual information? Â Â The world's foremost practitioners of professional tag-team wrestling. Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 They'd probably have to play in Ford Field with the city's bankruptcy and all,Or they could build this stadium. It's not like they'll building it with taxpayer money, what? they're not! Oh, good. The new Red Wing Arena on the other hand is using taxpayer money, regardless of the bankruptcy they are still building it.Except, the funds for the new Red Wings arena are not general taxpayer funds. They are "hotel/luxury bed" funds which can only be used for convention centers/other public similar uses. This comes up all the time with stadiums (huge debate about Marlins Field), but there are not many uses they can make with the funds. Also, the bankruptcy is an issue of future pension debt and not current market strength. While the city is not in good condition, the bankruptcy is a way to get off the hook for pension liabilities.Except that's unconstitutional IIRC. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerslionspistonshabs Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 I can think of about five cities that should get the MLS before Detroit.OrlandoMiamiSan AntonioAtlantaGlendale I'd say St. Louis and Tampa bay are 1&2 on mls explanation lists1- What's an explanation list?2- lolwut? Based on any actual information?Cities where the NHL has/is/would hypotetically fail = MLS success Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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