dgthree 21 Posted July 25, 2013 I know this only a proposal, but there has to be more behind this, right? Why would a huge project (1 Billion dollars) like this include a stadium without there at least being some logical reasoning.http://www.mlive.com...t_river_default 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monkeypower 3,110 Posted July 25, 2013 I don't think Detroit is in any position to do that sort of thing right now... 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magnus 407 Posted July 25, 2013 Motors FC, or FC Racing Detroit. I like the sound of the name, anyway... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evil G 99 Posted July 25, 2013 They'd probably have to play in Ford Field with the city's bankruptcy and all, 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evil G 99 Posted July 25, 2013 Yay! Private funds! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rams80 4,278 Posted July 25, 2013 I've seen this game. They're saying private funds, but Detroit's going to be on the hook for the overruns and oh look at all those overruns. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dfwabel 4,155 Posted July 25, 2013 Just keep in mind that the Apostolopoulos bought the Silverdome for $585K years ago, has done nothing to it, wants a five year property tax break and has yet to do anything but let the teflon roof tear apart in January only to claim, "renovations were under way". 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigerslionspistonshabs 1,642 Posted July 25, 2013 Sounds cool, as long as it's privately funded, which it won't be. There is no way to justify building this, or the new Wings arena, with any taxpayers money with the city in the condition it's in. Hundreds of other things on the priority list right now. Motor City FC ftw. Anything else= fail. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJTank 1,129 Posted July 25, 2013 I can think of about five cities that should get the MLS before Detroit.OrlandoMiamiSan AntonioAtlantaGlendale 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgthree 21 Posted July 25, 2013 They'd probably have to play in Ford Field with the city's bankruptcy and all,Or they could build this stadium. It's not like they'll building it with taxpayer money, what? they're not! Oh, good. The new Red Wing Arena on the other hand is using taxpayer money, regardless of the bankruptcy they are still building it.Except, the funds for the new Red Wings arena are not general taxpayer funds. They are "hotel/luxury bed" funds which can only be used for convention centers/other public similar uses. This comes up all the time with stadiums (huge debate about Marlins Field), but there are not many uses they can make with the funds. Also, the bankruptcy is an issue of future pension debt and not current market strength. While the city is not in good condition, the bankruptcy is a way to get off the hook for pension liabilities. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Luigi74 178 Posted July 25, 2013 I doubt these guys even have enough money to clear the site. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgthree 21 Posted July 25, 2013 I doubt these guys even have enough money to clear the site.The site is cleared, the issue is if the jail is scrapped can they use what is already there to build their buildings or will they need to take down what has been built. Even if they have to clear what has been built, it is not that significant. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GFB 2,134 Posted July 25, 2013 I can think of about five cities that should get the MLS before Detroit.OrlandoMiamiSan AntonioAtlantaGlendale The city is a wreck to be sure, but if you're talking about soccer interest levels, Michigan is one of the best states in the country for youth soccer. We have 2 of the top 12 youth clubs in the country (Michigan Wolves/Hawks and Vardar) and the recent NPSL team, Detroit City FC, has gained a cult following despite playing at a public high school in Detroit. Again, there's no money IN the city, but there's plenty enough in the suburbs to support an MLS team...of course it would be a much less risky investment 10 years or so down the road compared to jumping in right now. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigerslionspistonshabs 1,642 Posted July 25, 2013 I do like the idea of the underground plazas. Make it an 'Underground City' similar to what they have in Montreal. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IceCap 22,567 Posted July 25, 2013 If it can be built without a single cent coming from the city then why not? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigerslionspistonshabs 1,642 Posted July 25, 2013 I can think of about five cities that should get the MLS before Detroit.OrlandoMiamiSan AntonioAtlantaGlendale The city is a wreck to be sure, but if you're talking about soccer interest levels, Michigan is one of the best states in the country for youth soccer. We have 2 of the top 12 youth clubs in the country (Michigan Wolves/Hawks and Vardar) and the recent NPSL team, Detroit City FC, has gained a cult following despite playing at a public high school in Detroit. Again, there's no money IN the city, but there's plenty enough in the suburbs to support an MLS team...of course it would be a much less risky investment 10 years or so down the road compared to jumping in right now.Agreed 100%. I really thought a team would pick up in the Silverdome, which has the potential to still be a good stadium even if they rip the roof off. Then again, Pontiac is in almost as bad of shape as Detroit is. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lilben777 157 Posted July 25, 2013 I can think of about five cities that should get the MLS before Detroit.OrlandoMiamiSan AntonioAtlantaGlendale I'd say St. Louis and Tampa bay are 1&2 on mls explanation lists 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shmee 13 Posted July 25, 2013 I can think of about five cities that should get the MLS before Detroit.OrlandoMiamiSan AntonioAtlantaGlendale I'd say St. Louis and Tampa bay are 1&2 on mls explanation lists1- What's an explanation list?2- lolwut? Based on any actual information? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rams80 4,278 Posted July 25, 2013 They'd probably have to play in Ford Field with the city's bankruptcy and all,Or they could build this stadium. It's not like they'll building it with taxpayer money, what? they're not! Oh, good. The new Red Wing Arena on the other hand is using taxpayer money, regardless of the bankruptcy they are still building it.Except, the funds for the new Red Wings arena are not general taxpayer funds. They are "hotel/luxury bed" funds which can only be used for convention centers/other public similar uses. This comes up all the time with stadiums (huge debate about Marlins Field), but there are not many uses they can make with the funds. Also, the bankruptcy is an issue of future pension debt and not current market strength. While the city is not in good condition, the bankruptcy is a way to get off the hook for pension liabilities.Except that's unconstitutional IIRC. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigerslionspistonshabs 1,642 Posted July 25, 2013 I can think of about five cities that should get the MLS before Detroit.OrlandoMiamiSan AntonioAtlantaGlendale I'd say St. Louis and Tampa bay are 1&2 on mls explanation lists1- What's an explanation list?2- lolwut? Based on any actual information?Cities where the NHL has/is/would hypotetically fail = MLS success 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites