gdu Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 You are acting as though FIFA world cup rules and preferences are the same as they are for the EPL, for example, when it seems that may not be the case. Haha, so you are assuming that I was even remotely thinking of the Premier League when I wasn't. I do follow the Premier League but I pay much more attention to international football and MLS. I am basing this off of what I have seen from the kit releases plus what I already know to be true from my many years of following the international game.Are we really going to rehash this discussion post by post again?Why not? Is that because you assume that you are right. All I have seen so far is that a few less reputable news outlets and some random dudes have reported that the all light and all dark kits are the case based upon Adidas stupid marketing schemes and ruining of great traditional kits. Get real dude.No, I'm saying we've already had the conversation in this thread. No need to have it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdu Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Australia WC shirt (and New Zealand N98 and Brasil Pre-match top) on nike.com this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouj Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 How about them being based on the official FIFA rules instead?http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/competitions/Regulations/01/87/54/21/1875421_DOWNLOAD.pdfAt page 44, you can read:Each team shall inform FIFA of two different and contrasting colours (one predominately dark and one predominately light kit) for its official and reserve team kit.I posted that early in the thread too when the original "everyone must wear monochrome" discussion came up. The rule listed is identical to 2010 and nearly identical to 2006. There are no major changes for 2014 in regards to the uniform regs. Adidas is driving all of this.Apparently there is loads of room for interpretation here or Adidas is somehow privileged in this situation. I find this light/dark distinction extremely stupid as I don't think there is a corner in the world where significant number of people still watch black & white TV.Spain also had two dark kits 4 years ago so I wasn't aware that this rule is still followed.This is where the confusion comes in. While you interpret the red & blue kits as both being "dark", FIFA did not. For FIFA, red was light, blue was dark. Too often, we assume light = white or yellow or maybe orange. UEFA's regulations are a little more clear when they say everything must "clash", but FIFA words it differently. I think it's in the regs that each FA must send their kit to FIFA for inspection & approval before the Finals. No one is going to show up in Brazil without FIFA saying, "That's your light kit and that is your dark kit". Go Astros!Go Texans!Go Rockets!Go Javelinas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilt Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Yes, but at the same time red is a dark kit for Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Switzerland, Iran, Portugal, Ghana, Russia, Korea and probably United States and England.This rule would make sense if we still lived in B&W TV era or if we considered the kits in home-road terms like in American Leagues, meaning that you could just blindly pair light vs. dark. But it just won't work in this case, thus IMHO this rule makes no sense and it's not followed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sickboycool Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 You are acting as though FIFA world cup rules and preferences are the same as they are for the EPL, for example, when it seems that may not be the case. Haha, so you are assuming that I was even remotely thinking of the Premier League when I wasn't. I do follow the Premier League but I pay much more attention to international football and MLS. I am basing this off of what I have seen from the kit releases plus what I already know to be true from my many years of following the international game.Are we really going to rehash this discussion post by post again?Why not? Is that because you assume that you are right. All I have seen so far is that a few less reputable news outlets and some random dudes have reported that the all light and all dark kits are the case based upon Adidas stupid marketing schemes and ruining of great traditional kits. Get real dude.No, I'm saying we've already had the conversation in this thread. No need to have it again.I agree with the fact that this conversation has been had but plenty of people are still posting as if the monochrome or all light and all dark is actually the case. The problem with that line of thought is the Nike and Puma have already shown us otherwise with the kits they have released or that have been leaked. It is only Adidas who are messing everyone's traditional kits up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdu Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 You are acting as though FIFA world cup rules and preferences are the same as they are for the EPL, for example, when it seems that may not be the case. Haha, so you are assuming that I was even remotely thinking of the Premier League when I wasn't. I do follow the Premier League but I pay much more attention to international football and MLS. I am basing this off of what I have seen from the kit releases plus what I already know to be true from my many years of following the international game.Are we really going to rehash this discussion post by post again?Why not? Is that because you assume that you are right. All I have seen so far is that a few less reputable news outlets and some random dudes have reported that the all light and all dark kits are the case based upon Adidas stupid marketing schemes and ruining of great traditional kits. Get real dude.No, I'm saying we've already had the conversation in this thread. No need to have it again.I agree with the fact that this conversation has been had but plenty of people are still posting as if the monochrome or all light and all dark is actually the case. The problem with that line of thought is the Nike and Puma have already shown us otherwise with the kits they have released or that have been leaked. It is only Adidas who are messing everyone's traditional kits up. adidas is doin it more, but Nike has done it some. Taking the US from white/navy/white and navy/white/navy to white/white/white and red/red/red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sickboycool Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 adidas is doin it more, but Nike has done it some. Taking the US from white/navy/white and navy/white/navy to white/white/white and red/red/red.The US has no kit traditions unfortunately. There is also a precedent for the US to have all white kits. Namely the last world cup... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouj Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Yes, but at the same time red is a dark kit for Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Switzerland, Iran, Portugal, Ghana, Russia, Korea and probably United States and England.This rule would make sense if we still lived in B&W TV era or if we considered the kits in home-road terms like in American Leagues, meaning that you could just blindly pair light vs. dark. But it just won't work in this case, thus IMHO this rule makes no sense and it's not followed.But the rule is followed, and it's been clearly followed for a long time now in the Finals. You've got to see it from FIFA's perspective. They aren't interpreting it the way you or I would. Saying one team's dark is the same as another teams light makes no difference, as long as when they hit the pitch, one is in contrast to the other. Spain wouldn't go out against the white-clad US in their blue kits because they don't need to. They could go in their red. FIFA's wording is slightly different from UEFA (to encourage a white kit and a color kit), but it makes no difference so long as each team has two kits that contrast. There is a real example of this too: in the 2010 final, Spain had to wear their change blue kit (dark) against the Dutch's traditional orange kit (their dark also). It didn't matter that both were designated "dark kits", only that one was noticeably darker than the other. Since the Netherlands were designated "home", they got to wear their first choice. If it were reversed, Spain would have had first choice and could have worn their reds against the Dutch white kits.The last time there was a real problem was at USA 94, when Sweden showed up with white and yellow. It caused all kinds of weirdness against Brazil (who wore their yellow against Swedish white in their first game and blue against Swedish white in the rematch). FIFA would much rather have had Brazil in yellow against Sweden in blue (which is their change kit now) or vice versa. Go Astros!Go Texans!Go Rockets!Go Javelinas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aawagner011 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Inside of the sleeve cuffs look blue here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berlin Wall Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I miss those times when this was the final of the Euro 2008. This shorts clash would never be possible today. I'm a simple person, I have a pixelated David Beckham as profile photo since 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnclearInitial Posted February 20, 2014 Author Share Posted February 20, 2014 I think that the idea that a kit must be all dark/all light started in the Confederations Cup when Brazil wore their white shorts with their traditional jerseys. That look was used so rarely before that, and coupling this with the adidas releases that threw away tradition, that everyone just assumed that FIFA's guidelines had been changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njdevs7 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Do we know if the font on the USA kit will be red or blue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berlin Wall Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Colombias away is now official. I'm a simple person, I have a pixelated David Beckham as profile photo since 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorinK92 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 It looks better than the first pic for sure, I thought the blue was black at first.The sublimations pretty cool as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilt Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 I miss those times when this was the final of the Euro 2008. This shorts clash would never be possible today.I think that the short clash is the least problematic in football. Still, during Euro 2012 we've had Sweden vs. EnglandAnd those 2 games of Germany in the last World Cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy with Machete Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 I miss those times when this was the final of the Euro 2008. This shorts clash would never be possible today.Can't tell the teams apart at all! HELP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdu Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Do we know if the font on the USA kit will be red or blue?We don't know, but I think blue is the safe bet.Is it just me, or does the Authentic Product Nike tag still use the crest with navy blue?Not a terrible looking shirt by any means, but I still can't get out how much more it looks like a travel polo than a match shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmackman Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Guys the leaks were true. I just had a hookup sell me the new USA jersey. I posted it on Twitter to @BaconSports. Here are the photos, and I took them myself: "Every morning in Africa, a gazelle wakes up. It knows it must run faster than the fastest lion or it will be eaten. Every morning in Africa, a lion wakes up. It knows it must outrun the slowest gazelle or it will starve. It doesn't matter whether you're a lion or a gazelle. When the sun comes up, you'd better be running." - Unknown | Check out my articles on jerseys at Bacon Sports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdu Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Thanks for posting. Funny that the recolored the crest, but not on the tags used to sell it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest23 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 that is a great looking coach's polo...does anyone know when the men's white kit will finally come out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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