guest23 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 I'm personally tired of the Wahoo debate, and I am sure the Indians owners are as well. So they will slowly phase the Wahoo logo out (which is the best way to do it to avoid backlash from vocal fans). I'd like to see something better than the block C, but they have been building that one for awhile. Now does this appease the PC crowd, or do they go for the jugular and demand they drop the name Indians as well? No friggin chance the savage PC crowd will ever back down until every last visible incarnation of the Cleveland Indians is completly wiped off the American map. They have absolutely no remorse about stripping us all of our God-Given American Freedoms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk36 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 I'm personally tired of the Wahoo debate, and I am sure the Indians owners are as well. So they will slowly phase the Wahoo logo out (which is the best way to do it to avoid backlash from vocal fans). I'd like to see something better than the block C, but they have been building that one for awhile. Now does this appease the PC crowd, or do they go for the jugular and demand they drop the name Indians as well? Agreed I too am tired of it. I fear though there is always going to be someone offended by something so when this has passed, there will be a new cause to jump on. Design Hovie Studios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian in Boston Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Given that threads tend to devolve into "sh1t-shows" whenever the topic of Native American-themed branding in sports surfaces in them, let's resolve to share our thoughts and opinions on said subject - and consider the thoughts and opinions of others on the issue - in a respectful and non-inflammatory manner.You're free to engage in expressing the reasoning behind the formation of your thoughts and opinions on the topic of Native American-themed sports branding, so long as you can do so without insulting other members of this community by labeling them, their thoughts, their ideas, and their opinions as "racist", "bigoted", "intolerant", "politically incorrect", "PC", "liberal", "conservative", etc. Further, don't drag this thread too far afield by engaging in a long-winded diatribe on the topics of racism, bigotry, intolerance, politically-incorrect or politically-correct behavior, or any variety of socio-political philosophies.Bottom line? Feel free to share your thoughts and opinions. Peruse the thoughts and opinions of others. DO NOT berate the the thoughts and opinions of those you don't agree with; rather, ignore them and move on. DO NOT treat others in a callous and disrespectful manner.Posts that don't meet these guidelines will be deleted. If too many posts to this thread become disrespectful and/or inflammatory in nature, the entire thread will be deleted.Thank you, in advance, for your cooperation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 The Cleveland Indians are one of the older teams out there. A block C may not be the most exciting thing in the world but it works in context. PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCall Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 The Cleveland Indians are one of the older teams out there. A block C may not be the most exciting thing in the world but it works in context.And honestly that solid red block C against a navy cap is, IMO, one of the best caps in the league. A long tenured team like the Indians can pull it off. Just get rid of the red cap. Â Â https://dribbble.com/MakaioCall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Also, it's not like the red bleeding into the navy will be a problem. We're entering the HD era. The more that technology spreads the lack of a white outline will become less and less of an issue. PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRicSlick Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 The Chief will be missed as the primary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosrs1 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 http://m.clevescene.com/cleveland/blogs/Post?basename=cleveland-indians-changing-official-primary-logo-to-block-c&day=08&id=scene-and-heard&month=01&year=2014According to that, block C will become Indians official primary logo. Wahoo still on home hats, and jersey sleeves. Let the slow phase out begin. Probably a smart move. Just slink away under the controversy while the 'Skins take the heat. Just formalizes what they've been doing for several years now. Also might explain why when I went to the mall neither Lids nor Hat Club were carrying Wahoo caps anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakfu Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 The Cleveland Indians are one of the older teams out there. A block C may not be the most exciting thing in the world but it works in context.And honestly that solid red block C against a navy cap is, IMO, one of the best caps in the league. A long tenured team like the Indians can pull it off. Just get rid of the red cap.Great cap logo. For some reason it was awful in the '80s with the white outline though. Pretty ridiculously simple and vague for a primary logo though. Not that an old English D or an isolated pair of socks isn't either, and not that interlocking "NY" wouldn't be if it were the primary - but at least those ones are a little more iconic and recognizable. The Indians don't "own" a block C enough for it to stand on its own as a primary logo. They should come up with something less skimpy...throw a feather behind it or something? I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakfu Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Forgot about the Pirates P. I hate this minimalist primary logo trend. It reminds me of all the dead ball era "logos" on the mothership - since real logos didn't exist (I assume), we just use some uniform element like a wordmark or initial instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakfu Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Oh, gotcha. The P is a strong logo, but the Pirate has been on their primary for almost 80 years. I thought if they cleaned it up a bit, got rid of the red, it'd be good enough. Hopefully it'll still be around as a secondary?You really think a single letter can be a "strong logo"? It's great for a cap, just like that D in your avatar, but man I just don't think these initials should stand along as a primary logo. On a serious note, how can they even trademark these things? A single letter / color combination, (in a fairly nondescript font in Cleveland's case? If I sell blue shirts that say "CAT" on them in red block font, does that infringe on the Indians copyright since it incorporates their 'primary logo'?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tv15 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Will The C logos be one color or with an outline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSU151 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 The Cleveland Indians are one of the older teams out there. A block C may not be the most exciting thing in the world but it works in context.And honestly that solid red block C against a navy cap is, IMO, one of the best caps in the league. A long tenured team like the Indians can pull it off. Just get rid of the red cap.First I hate the red cap, so that hat can go away tomorrow. As far as the block C... I think it's too plain, even for a long tenured team like the Indians. The C needs some character. It's not the early 20th century. Liven it up a tad. Smart is believing half of what you hear. Genius is knowing which half. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjd77 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 The Cleveland Indians are one of the older teams out there. A block C may not be the most exciting thing in the world but it works in context.And honestly that solid red block C against a navy cap is, IMO, one of the best caps in the league. A long tenured team like the Indians can pull it off. Just get rid of the red cap.First I hate the red cap, so that hat can go away tomorrow. As far as the block C... I think it's too plain, even for a long tenured team like the Indians. The C needs some character. It's not the early 20th century. Liven it up a tad.I think that block C is absolutely terrible. If they insist on phasing out Wahoo the least they can do is come up with something better than the C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSU151 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 The Cleveland Indians are one of the older teams out there. A block C may not be the most exciting thing in the world but it works in context.And honestly that solid red block C against a navy cap is, IMO, one of the best caps in the league. A long tenured team like the Indians can pull it off. Just get rid of the red cap.First I hate the red cap, so that hat can go away tomorrow. As far as the block C... I think it's too plain, even for a long tenured team like the Indians. The C needs some character. It's not the early 20th century. Liven it up a tad.I think that block C is absolutely terrible. If they insist on phasing out Wahoo the least they can do is come up with something better than the C.Yeah exactly...come up with a logo (probably a C-based logo) that is better than Wahoo AND the current boring C logo. Give people something to be excited about so they don't have the need to be nostalgic about Wahoo and Major League. We've seen great concepts here... Smart is believing half of what you hear. Genius is knowing which half. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 I don't care. I love it. hahaha we posted at the same time ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC in Da House w/o a Doubt Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 The block-C hat is my least favorite hat in all of baseball... C'mon Cleveland, at least get a C with a feather on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 I rather like it. The single serif gives it distinction. And red on navy looks gorgeous in person and in HD. Nice to see a team refrain from adding unnecessary key lines. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jungle Jim Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 I guess this cap screams 1970s, but I always liked it and would like to see it make a comeback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Oh, gotcha. The P is a strong logo, but the Pirate has been on their primary for almost 80 years. I thought if they cleaned it up a bit, got rid of the red, it'd be good enough. Hopefully it'll still be around as a secondary? You really think a single letter can be a "strong logo"? It's great for a cap, just like that D in your avatar, but man I just don't think these initials should stand along as a primary logo. On a serious note, how can they even trademark these things? A single letter / color combination, (in a fairly nondescript font in Cleveland's case? If I sell blue shirts that say "CAT" on them in red block font, does that infringe on the Indians copyright since it incorporates their 'primary logo'?)A single letter can be a strong logo, if it's styled in a way that's trademarkable, and is very much associated with the organization it represents (pretty much a prerequisite for any good logo). Look at the Greatness Packers for example. A single C can work, however the team hasn't built up enough equity in that particular mark for it to just inconspicuously slide in as the new primary. IMO a new logo should have been created - definitely letter based - that was more distinct and identifiable. They should've had an unveiling or something, so that non-home fans would have a better chance of knowing what the new logo they see is for, instead of just seeing a C and relying on context to put the pieces together. "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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