charger77 Posted December 14, 2011 Author Share Posted December 14, 2011 I like the use of "its an economic issue" to justify IP theft, especially in an on-line community populated by designers and logo/uniform fans. For me its a legal issue, first off its the duty of the Federal government to:To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;Also "At this point, I think it's incumbent on the NFL to react to the secondhand market"? Why is it the duty of the person or party that is the victim in this situation to prevent the wrong doing? (Should iPhones and Plasma TVs be cheaper because people want to steal them.) As a similiar example, many people think that NFL tickets are too expensive, however at the first sight of a fake ticket a person is not getting into a game why is that practice not tolerated, but fake jereys etc... are? Creative AmericaPetition to Congress on this matter Quote PotD May 11th, 2011looooooogodud: June 7th 2010 - July 5th 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_ThenNowForever Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Point or order: I'm not justifying anything. I'm simply explaining (which again, doesn't mean "justifying") my opinion of why a black market for NFL jerseys exists. And yes, if the NFL wants to protect its IP, it should actually protect its IP. It's what major corporations do, and it seems like hiring eBay monitors would be well within the scope of the NFL's or Reebok's normal IP protection processes. But I don't know; I don't work in IP protection. Also, black markets do indeed exist for consumer electronics because people can't afford the originals. It's regrettable, but again, explainable for many economic reasons.EDIT: It's also standard practice to warn people they're clicking on a PDF.EDIT again: SOPA has nothing to do with this and is better left way off of this board. Quote 1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said: and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger77 Posted December 14, 2011 Author Share Posted December 14, 2011 EDIT: It's also standard practice to warn people they're clicking on a PDF.Not to be a smart ass but why? I have never heard that before, are they prone to viruses?And yes, if the NFL wants to protect its IP, it should actually protect its IP. It's what major corporations do, and it seems like hiring eBay monitors would be well within the scope of the NFL's or Reebok's normal IP protection processes. But I don't know; I don't work in IP protection. Actually, the Main 4 leagues, plus NASCAR and the NCAA do this. eBay has people that do this as well. Quote PotD May 11th, 2011looooooogodud: June 7th 2010 - July 5th 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_ThenNowForever Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Then it sounds like the fakes must be pretty good to get past the leagues' own watchdogs. PDF plugins take a while to load, can crash, and yes, can carry viruses. They're also a pain on mobile browsers. Quote 1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said: and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger77 Posted December 14, 2011 Author Share Posted December 14, 2011 Then it sounds like the fakes must be pretty good to get past the leagues' own watchdogs. I actually know an eBay employees that does it. He told me that for every counterfit posting they remove 3 more pop up in its place. Also, a large percentage of the fakes on eBay are so bad that they go unsold and the leaguse focus on the source as opposed to individual postings of items. Quote PotD May 11th, 2011looooooogodud: June 7th 2010 - July 5th 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger77 Posted December 14, 2011 Author Share Posted December 14, 2011 Quote PotD May 11th, 2011looooooogodud: June 7th 2010 - July 5th 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Fake? Or just bad customization job? Quote On 4/10/2017 at 3:05 PM, Rollins Man said: what the hell is ccslc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger77 Posted December 14, 2011 Author Share Posted December 14, 2011 Both, that is not a Montreal road jersey.For reference: Quote PotD May 11th, 2011looooooogodud: June 7th 2010 - July 5th 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 The NHL does sell "fashion" jerseys.... Quote On 4/10/2017 at 3:05 PM, Rollins Man said: what the hell is ccslc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger77 Posted December 14, 2011 Author Share Posted December 14, 2011 That ain't one of em. Quote PotD May 11th, 2011looooooogodud: June 7th 2010 - July 5th 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Way, way back I promised to post pictures of my Durant China counterfeit. After a long wait, here they are. They main reason that I bought this China counterfeit is because I can't find any Kevin Durant Sonics gear from any legitimate sales. Sure, there are some obvious flaws, most notably the orange piping around the neck instead of yellow, but for $28, I'm happy with what I got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loogodude90 Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Way, way back I promised to post pictures of my Durant China counterfeit. After a long wait, here they are. They main reason that I bought this China counterfeit is because I can't find any Kevin Durant Sonics gear from any legitimate sales. Sure, there are some obvious flaws, most notably the orange piping around the neck instead of yellow, but for $28, I'm happy with what I got.Yeah, that's not bad at all. First of all that orange looks more goldish to me, and I wouldn't have even noticed much of a color difference if you didn't say anything.I think that jersey looks great. For $28, you surely came out on top here. Quote WIZARDS ORIOLES CAPITALS RAVENS UNITED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nash61 Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Was in a perfectly legit independent store this weekend, and was surprised to find a lot of knockoffs. A lot of legit jerseys, too. Quote On September 20, 2012 at 0:50 AM, 'CS85 said: It's like watching the hellish undead creakily shuffling their way out of the flames of a liposuction clinic dumpster fire. On February 19, 2012 at 9:30 AM, 'pianoknight said: Story B: Red Wings go undefeated and score 100 goals in every game. They also beat a team comprised of Godzilla, the ghost of Abraham Lincoln, 2 Power Rangers and Betty White. Oh, and they played in the middle of Iraq on a military base. In the sand. With no ice. Santa gave them special sand-skates that allowed them to play in shorts and t-shirts in 115 degree weather. Jesus, Zeus and Buddha watched from the sidelines and ate cotton candy. POTD 5/24/12, POTD 2/26/17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coozapalooza Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Saw this on Borntrade. I guess they used the wrong Moss' font from some of Randy's Pats jerseys.On a side note, anyone know what the best looking Redskins fakes are? My roommate is a Skins fan and I want to get one for him for his birthday which is relatively soon. No, I am not a scumbag, we just really only exchange gifts of about $25 or so and I am sure he wouldn't care if it's fake. I'll tell him, but honestly he probably wouldn't know anyway. Quote WVU '14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizzaman7294 Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Saw this on Borntrade. I guess they used the wrong Moss' font from some of Randy's Pats jerseys.On a side note, anyone know what the best looking Redskins fakes are? My roommate is a Skins fan and I want to get one for him for his birthday which is relatively soon. No, I am not a scumbag, we just really only exchange gifts of about $25 or so and I am sure he wouldn't care if it's fake. I'll tell him, but honestly he probably wouldn't know anyway.http://www.nflshop.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3612504&cp=2237636.2247558&pageType=family&parentPage=family25 bucks and guaranteed to be good looking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger77 Posted December 27, 2011 Author Share Posted December 27, 2011 Way, way back I promised to post pictures of my Durant China counterfeit. After a long wait, here they are. They main reason that I bought this China counterfeit is because I can't find any Kevin Durant Sonics gear from any legitimate sales. Sure, there are some obvious flaws, most notably the orange piping around the neck instead of yellow, but for $28, I'm happy with what I got.Yeah, that's not bad at all. First of all that orange looks more goldish to me, and I wouldn't have even noticed much of a color difference if you didn't say anything.I think that jersey looks great. For $28, you surely came out on top here.The wavy material on the 35 is a giveaway too. Quote PotD May 11th, 2011looooooogodud: June 7th 2010 - July 5th 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loogodude90 Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Way, way back I promised to post pictures of my Durant China counterfeit. After a long wait, here they are. They main reason that I bought this China counterfeit is because I can't find any Kevin Durant Sonics gear from any legitimate sales. Sure, there are some obvious flaws, most notably the orange piping around the neck instead of yellow, but for $28, I'm happy with what I got.Yeah, that's not bad at all. First of all that orange looks more goldish to me, and I wouldn't have even noticed much of a color difference if you didn't say anything.I think that jersey looks great. For $28, you surely came out on top here.The wavy material on the 35 is a giveaway too.Are you sure about that? A lot of NBA jerseys in the past decade or so have had shiny/wavy material on various parts of their uniforms, including numbers. Are you sure the Sonics didn't during that era?Just as a side note, I actually think that wavy material makes the jersey look even better. Quote WIZARDS ORIOLES CAPITALS RAVENS UNITED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger77 Posted December 27, 2011 Author Share Posted December 27, 2011 I am positive that the wavy material used on the 35 is the wrong material. Quote PotD May 11th, 2011looooooogodud: June 7th 2010 - July 5th 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADW77 Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 I am positive that the wavy material used on the 35 is the wrong material.That's the easiest way to spot counterfeits. If they have shiny numbering/lettering, they're fake. The actual twill material used for jerseys is expensive, so they counterfeiters can't use it and sell them for so cheap, that's why they use a lesser quality material, which is usually shiny. Quote FDCO Fonts NFL Re-Design Project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger77 Posted December 27, 2011 Author Share Posted December 27, 2011 I am positive that the wavy material used on the 35 is the wrong material.That's the easiest way to spot counterfeits. If they have shiny numbering/lettering, they're fake. The actual twill material used for jerseys is expensive, so they counterfeiters can't use it and sell them for so cheap, that's why they use a lesser quality material, which is usually shiny.Also the fakes rarely if ever use the zig zag stitching. Quote PotD May 11th, 2011looooooogodud: June 7th 2010 - July 5th 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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