ScubaSteve Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 This is part observational and part opinion. Take a minute to look at the NBA's primary team logos page. Then flip over to NFL, NHL, and MLB. I notice a difference.Every NBA teams' primary logo (with the exception of the Pacers and Wizards who might have been grandfathered in) seem to adhere to standards that they must include the city and team name in their logo. This style is pretty heavily used in minor league sports as well.Meanwhile the other 3 sports tend to rely mainly on imagery and symbols. In the NFL and NHL, wording in primary logos is rare. In MLB, it seems like a mix of the two.My question is: Do you prefer the more basic logos of the NFL and NHL or the NBA-style logos with city and team name? Also consider: Should the NBA change its standards? What is more iconic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckymack Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 The NFL and NHL are doing it right, IMO. A singular graphic is much more easily processed than the 'everything but the kitchen sink' logos of the NBA and MLB. Of course, I like my art modern and abstract, so YMMV. Sigs are for sissies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnWis97 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 I definitely prefer NHL/NFL. The NBA teams 1) tend to force city/name into logos and 2) rely more on secondary logos as an end-around to the requirement.Pre-CCSLC, I always wondered why the text was a bit "forced" on the below logo:Thanks to the CCSLC, now I Know!The current T-Wolves logo does something that several NBA logos do, which is to incorporate the text a bit more seamlessly. This beats forcing the text in, but it still puts an extra barrier in front of the logo designers.That said, it has always driven me nuts that the Wild primary logo is the below. The "Minnesota Wild" makes it look like the team decided to adhere to NBA standards. Disclaimer: If this comment is about an NBA uniform from 2017-2018 or later, do not constitute a lack of acknowledgement of the corporate logo to mean anything other than "the corporate logo is terrible and makes the uniform significantly worse." BADGERS TWINS VIKINGS TIMBERWOLVES WILD POTD (Shared) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty8_Black O Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 I think part of it is the NBA doesn't have a uniform feature that exclusively shows off one logo. In the NFL you create your logo to go on a helmet, in the NHL it's the crest of the jersey, the MLB it's on the cap. In the NBA your logo can show up anywhere. Now I'm not sure why the NBA decided to force teams to include the team and city name into the primary but that seems like its a part of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScubaSteve Posted December 31, 2013 Author Share Posted December 31, 2013 I definitely prefer NHL/NFL. The NBA teams 1) tend to force city/name into logos and 2) rely more on secondary logos as an end-around to the requirement.Pre-CCSLC, I always wondered why the text was a bit "forced" on the below logo:Thanks to the CCSLC, now I Know!The current T-Wolves logo does something that several NBA logos do, which is to incorporate the text a bit more seamlessly. This beats forcing the text in, but it still puts an extra barrier in front of the logo designers.That said, it has always driven me nuts that the Wild primary logo is the below. The "Minnesota Wild" makes it look like the team decided to adhere to NBA standards.That brings up a good point. Whereas teams like Chicago would be just as iconic if you took away the wordmark in the primary, other logos are actually built around these wordmarks. Simply emoving the lettering would essentially break the logo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xist2inspire Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 I assumed that one reason for NBA and some MLB logos forcing text onto logos is because wordmarks are much more important on NBA/MLB jerseys than NFL/NHL ones. The latter two can get away with using just a logo because there's usually little to no room for text on their jerseys anyway. MLB uses a hybrid because there's room for both a plain logo (cap) and a wordmark (jersey). With NBA jerseys, the wordmark and number font will be displayed more prominently than anything else on the jersey. Tradition is the foundation of innovation, and not the enemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliasrappaport Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 It's obviously the NFL/NHL, look at this:http://www.sportslogos.net/logos/view/qlpk0etqwelv8artgc7tvqefu/Philadelphia_76ers/2010/Primary_Logohttp://www.sportslogos.net/logos/view/gvc4r743h73yoif2hnvzzbir9/Philadelphia_76ers/2010/Partial_LogoClearly the 2nd one is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolvikings Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 I've always thought it was goofy that almost (if not all) NBA logos have to shoehorn in an image of a basketball. OK, we get it, you're a basketball team. On the other hand, since it doesn't seem so heavy-handed, when NHL logos include Hockey equipment imagery, I think its cool. http://dstewartpaint.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan33 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 A good logo should represent the teams namesake, city or both (preferably) without relying on text as a crutch. The NBA should definitely change their standards because just about every team has an alternate logo vastly superior to it's primary with cluttered text. A couple examples being these... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadSeed84 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Because the NBA is a glorified minor league that just happens to be the top league for basketball so therefore is deemed "professional" (christmas jerseys? nicknames on jerseys?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
29texan Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Because the NBA is a glorified minor league that just happens to be the top league for basketball so therefore is deemed "professional" (christmas jerseys? nicknames on jerseys?)... I wouldn't go that far. But the NBA is a different animal. It's more about "flash" than the other Big Four (+ MLS) leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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