OnWis97 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I think Van Slyke said something like "you can get lip cancer just sharing sharing centerfield with Dykstra." Disclaimer: If this comment is about an NBA uniform from 2017-2018 or later, do not constitute a lack of acknowledgement of the corporate logo to mean anything other than "the corporate logo is terrible and makes the uniform significantly worse." BADGERS TWINS VIKINGS TIMBERWOLVES WILD POTD (Shared) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 ron washington still smokes in the dugoutWhat does he smoke www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElwoodCuse Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 I know Grabner chews, for some reason. But yeah, why do that to yourself?Pretty convenient how Curt Schilling, long-time tobacco addict, won't say exactly what kind of cancer he has. He quit because he got mouth sores a while back and it scared him straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HedleyLamarr Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 While it's disgusting, chewing tobacco is one of the tamer vices that professional athletes and coaches have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 While it's disgusting, chewing tobacco is one of the tamer vices that professional athletes and coaches have.Bill Tuttle says Hi www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HedleyLamarr Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Again, not saying it's not disgusting or not unhealthy, but chewing tobacco is so pedestrian in comparison to other vices that players and coaches have when the cameras are off and they're away from the playing venue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nash61 Posted June 16, 2014 Author Share Posted June 16, 2014 Maybe Tony Gwynn's death will change some minds in regards to chewing tobacco.Also, I can't believe how many guys even in the Intercounty Baseball League (Canada) dip. On September 20, 2012 at 0:50 AM, 'CS85 said: It's like watching the hellish undead creakily shuffling their way out of the flames of a liposuction clinic dumpster fire. On February 19, 2012 at 9:30 AM, 'pianoknight said: Story B: Red Wings go undefeated and score 100 goals in every game. They also beat a team comprised of Godzilla, the ghost of Abraham Lincoln, 2 Power Rangers and Betty White. Oh, and they played in the middle of Iraq on a military base. In the sand. With no ice. Santa gave them special sand-skates that allowed them to play in shorts and t-shirts in 115 degree weather. Jesus, Zeus and Buddha watched from the sidelines and ate cotton candy. POTD 5/24/12, POTD 2/26/17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 I cant think of a big casualty to smokeless tobacco than Gwynn. I know its banned in most of the minors, maybe MLB can ban it soon. www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc49erfan15 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 I cant think of a big casualty to smokeless tobacco than Gwynn. I know its banned in most of the minors, maybe MLB can ban it soon.It's "banned" in the minors, but it's absolutely still used. The umps and other officials (the fabled "dip police") look out for cans and pouches, but dip can be transferred to containers other than cans or pouches. Or they put it in before leaving the clubhouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 It's a cultural problem, really. Banning it at the Minor, or even Major, league level won't change anything. You have to change the culture of the game as early as possible. As with most of society's ills the answer is education PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 (the "dip police")they live inside of my mouth ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Again, not saying it's not disgusting or not unhealthy, but chewing tobacco is so pedestrian in comparison to other vices that players and coaches have when the cameras are off and they're away from the playing venue.And...? The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HedleyLamarr Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 (the "dip police")they live inside of my mouth Shaddup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigers6884 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Rick Porcello of the Detroit Tigers is apparently still going to dip (no surprise, he doesn't seem to have the best personality). You can read an article about Tony Gwynn's death and the effect it had on Detroit's players who chew tobacco here: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20140617/SPORTS0104/306170113. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbadefense1990 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 It's a cultural problem, really. Banning it at the Minor, or even Major, league level won't change anything. You have to change the culture of the game as early as possible. As with most of society's ills the answer is education Maybe 30-40 years ago. Now, as with most of society's ills, the answer is being born into a wealthy family who can afford to pay for a better residence, a better school and access to the best testing services so that the student can get a better collegiate financial aid package to get that education.**because of financial aid being rewarded in America on a merit-basis, kids born into more-wealthy households will already have the resources and typically show better grades and have more extra-curriculums than their less-wealthy peers, which in turn will result in the federal government awarding such with a more favorable aid package (more grants and scholarships). So yes, what I said is plausibleBack to the topic, when I covered high school baseball, I noticed that whenever scouts and assistant coaches for farm teams were in attendance checking out prospects, the older ones (50-somethings) were huddled in the front of the bleachers chewing on Skoal discs while taking their notes. Scouts younger than, say 50, were wise enough to forego the tobacco, especially in situations where scouts wanted to talk to me about such and such player from our high school for more insight. I do agree with some people on here when they say that chewing tobacco is a generational thing. Baby Boomers were probably the last set of baseball fans to see widespread use of chewing tobacco around the game. They grew up watching their heroes mastucate those tar bars on a normal basis and some of those people as adults began using smokeless tobacco on a routine basis themselves. As more and more people saw the deadly effects of tobacco (as well as the efforts by anti-tobacco groups beginning in the 1970s), the fad of using such product began to wane. I see more and more up-and-coming coaches opting for sunflower seeds (and chewing lots of those) in favor of tobacco, and his players have usually followed suit. While I don't expect complete eradication of smokeless tobacco anytime soon, the next generation of baseball ambassadors will make sure that baseball and smokeless tobacco are mutually exclusive towards tomorrow's kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 It's a cultural problem, really. Banning it at the Minor, or even Major, league level won't change anything. You have to change the culture of the game as early as possible. As with most of society's ills the answer is education Maybe 30-40 years ago. Now, as with most of society's ills, the answer is being born into a wealthy family who can afford to pay for a better residence, a better school and access to the best testing services so that the student can get a better collegiate financial aid package to get that education.*Um...no. You don't need to go to the best private schools to learn "tobacco's bad, m'kay?"Hell, if you're born into a poor family then what are you doing smoking anyway? You don't have money to waste on cigarettes like those rich kids do! PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nash61 Posted June 19, 2014 Author Share Posted June 19, 2014 It's a cultural problem, really. Banning it at the Minor, or even Major, league level won't change anything. You have to change the culture of the game as early as possible. As with most of society's ills the answer is education Maybe 30-40 years ago. Now, as with most of society's ills, the answer is being born into a wealthy family who can afford to pay for a better residence, a better school and access to the best testing services so that the student can get a better collegiate financial aid package to get that education.**because of financial aid being rewarded in America on a merit-basis, kids born into more-wealthy households will already have the resources and typically show better grades and have more extra-curriculums than their less-wealthy peers, which in turn will result in the federal government awarding such with a more favorable aid package (more grants and scholarships). So yes, what I said is plausibleBack to the topic, when I covered high school baseball, I noticed that whenever scouts and assistant coaches for farm teams were in attendance checking out prospects, the older ones (50-somethings) were huddled in the front of the bleachers chewing on Skoal discs while taking their notes. Scouts younger than, say 50, were wise enough to forego the tobacco, especially in situations where scouts wanted to talk to me about such and such player from our high school for more insight. I do agree with some people on here when they say that chewing tobacco is a generational thing.Baby Boomers were probably the last set of baseball fans to see widespread use of chewing tobacco around the game. They grew up watching their heroes mastucate those tar bars on a normal basis and some of those people as adults began using smokeless tobacco on a routine basis themselves. As more and more people saw the deadly effects of tobacco (as well as the efforts by anti-tobacco groups beginning in the 1970s), the fad of using such product began to wane. I see more and more up-and-coming coaches opting for sunflower seeds (and chewing lots of those) in favor of tobacco, and his players have usually followed suit. While I don't expect complete eradication of smokeless tobacco anytime soon, the next generation of baseball ambassadors will make sure that baseball and smokeless tobacco are mutually exclusive towards tomorrow's kids.Smokeless tobacco use is in no way on the decline.Source: Sitting in a dugout yesterday next to three players under 25 who were dipping, with tins in their lockers. EDIT: The Hockey News had a great article about it: http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/tony-gwynns-tragic-death-from-chewing-tobacco-is-a-wakeup-call-for-the-nhl-and-hockey-world/ On September 20, 2012 at 0:50 AM, 'CS85 said: It's like watching the hellish undead creakily shuffling their way out of the flames of a liposuction clinic dumpster fire. On February 19, 2012 at 9:30 AM, 'pianoknight said: Story B: Red Wings go undefeated and score 100 goals in every game. They also beat a team comprised of Godzilla, the ghost of Abraham Lincoln, 2 Power Rangers and Betty White. Oh, and they played in the middle of Iraq on a military base. In the sand. With no ice. Santa gave them special sand-skates that allowed them to play in shorts and t-shirts in 115 degree weather. Jesus, Zeus and Buddha watched from the sidelines and ate cotton candy. POTD 5/24/12, POTD 2/26/17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Yeah, hockey players are awful with smokeless tobacco, especially the Swedes and their snus. Then there's Todd Bertuzzi, who cuts the skin between his toes with a razor blade and sticks dip between his toes so that it goes into his bloodstream that way, EW EW EW EW EW. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeypower Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 It's a cultural problem, really. Banning it at the Minor, or even Major, league level won't change anything. You have to change the culture of the game as early as possible. As with most of society's ills the answer is education Maybe 30-40 years ago. Now, as with most of society's ills, the answer is being born into a wealthy family who can afford to pay for a better residence, a better school and access to the best testing services so that the student can get a better collegiate financial aid package to get that education.**because of financial aid being rewarded in America on a merit-basis, kids born into more-wealthy households will already have the resources and typically show better grades and have more extra-curriculums than their less-wealthy peers, which in turn will result in the federal government awarding such with a more favorable aid package (more grants and scholarships). So yes, what I said is plausibleBack to the topic, when I covered high school baseball, I noticed that whenever scouts and assistant coaches for farm teams were in attendance checking out prospects, the older ones (50-somethings) were huddled in the front of the bleachers chewing on Skoal discs while taking their notes. Scouts younger than, say 50, were wise enough to forego the tobacco, especially in situations where scouts wanted to talk to me about such and such player from our high school for more insight. I do agree with some people on here when they say that chewing tobacco is a generational thing.Baby Boomers were probably the last set of baseball fans to see widespread use of chewing tobacco around the game. They grew up watching their heroes mastucate those tar bars on a normal basis and some of those people as adults began using smokeless tobacco on a routine basis themselves. As more and more people saw the deadly effects of tobacco (as well as the efforts by anti-tobacco groups beginning in the 1970s), the fad of using such product began to wane. I see more and more up-and-coming coaches opting for sunflower seeds (and chewing lots of those) in favor of tobacco, and his players have usually followed suit. While I don't expect complete eradication of smokeless tobacco anytime soon, the next generation of baseball ambassadors will make sure that baseball and smokeless tobacco are mutually exclusive towards tomorrow's kids. Smokeless tobacco use is in no way on the decline.Source: Sitting in a dugout yesterday next to three players under 25 who were dipping, with tins in their lockers. EDIT: The Hockey News had a great article about it: http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/tony-gwynns-tragic-death-from-chewing-tobacco-is-a-wakeup-call-for-the-nhl-and-hockey-world/I really like that article, besides how he linked to a Big League Chew t-shirt and said it was chewing tobacco being indirectly marketed to kids .I personally don't chew tobacco and I think it's gross, but on the other hand, they are all adults and are capable of making their own legal decisions. On the other otther hand it starts a culture of players needing chewing tobacco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 I really don't understand dipping. At least cigarettes have some historical "cool" behind them, work great as personal props and tap into the American myth of the individual. But dipping? Nobody in history has ever made a case that chewing a wad of tobacco was sexy, sophisticated, or glamorous. "Bovine Chic" has yet to sweep the world. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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