Brian in Boston Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I also believe the original Staggs used the antlers/deer referral but that's another research job.To the best of my recollection, there has never been a pro sports franchise named the Chicago Staggs. The Chicago Stags - with a single "g" in the nickname - were a franchise in the Basketball Association of America and National Basketball Association. Said team did, in fact, feature a depiction of an adult male deer in its logo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubsFanBudMan Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I also believe the original Staggs used the antlers/deer referral but that's another research job. To the best of my recollection, there has never been a pro sports franchise named the Chicago Staggs. The Chicago Stags - with a single "g" in the nickname - were a franchise in the Basketball Association of America and National Basketball Association. Said team did, in fact, feature a depiction of an adult male deer in its logo. And isn't that probably why they can't use it? The Bulls wore Stags throwbacks a few years back. The NBA probably still owns the identity. (And simply adding a G might not even be enough.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtrich11 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 New Jersey Generals:The stars forming a pentagon in the middle... Is this an existing military mark, or did Dane hit on something cool here? cafepress.com/artbyrichards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCCoachArete Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 What are the colors of the Wranglers helmet...is that black/green with the gold or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkerws Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 New Jersey Generals:The stars forming a pentagon in the middle... Is this an existing military mark, or did Dane hit on something cool here?it's actually a very old rank. General of the armies. It's not been used since Eisenhower. The Pentagon wasn't as apparent in the old mark I don't think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian in Boston Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 New Jersey Generals:The stars forming a pentagon in the middle... Is this an existing military mark, or did Dane hit on something cool here?It's a mark that's been used in the United States military. Five Generals of the Army, a General of the Air Force, and four Fleet Admirals have worn such an insignia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackieMoon Posted February 10, 2014 Author Share Posted February 10, 2014 I wonder what the Denver franchise will be called? Hoping like hell they don't follow suit and choose these awful things... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian in Boston Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I also believe the original Staggs used the antlers/deer referral but that's another research job. To the best of my recollection, there has never been a pro sports franchise named the Chicago Staggs. The Chicago Stags - with a single "g" in the nickname - were a franchise in the Basketball Association of America and National Basketball Association. Said team did, in fact, feature a depiction of an adult male deer in its logo. And isn't that probably why they can't use it? The Bulls wore Stags throwbacks a few years back. The NBA probably still owns the identity. (And simply adding a G might not even be enough.)A trademark search at the USPTO site shows that NBA Properties abandoned the Chicago Stags' marks. So, who knows what is up with regard to the availability of Chicago Stags with the single "g"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwmoore Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Thanks for the correction on the Staggs.Up until Eisenhower's promotion to General of the Armies and Supreme Allied Commander, the rank of General of the Armies was four stars and was last held by Blackjack Pershing. The story of the additional fifth star has to do with General Pershing's never having been relieved of that rank. There's still an unofficial design for a new GoAs that MacArthur submitted that is six stars. Both Pershing and George Washington were later named GoAs afterwards but Eisenhower was the Ranking GoAs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmccarthy27 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Sea Lions Alts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmccarthy27 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Thanks for the correction on the Staggs.Up until Eisenhower's promotion to General of the Armies and Supreme Allied Commander, the rank of General of the Armies was four stars and was last held by Blackjack Pershing. The story of the additional fifth star has to do with General Pershing's never having been relieved of that rank. There's still an unofficial design for a new GoAs that MacArthur submitted that is six stars. Both Pershing and George Washington were later named GoAs afterwards but Eisenhower was the Ranking GoAs.But in most military images of the 5 star general, the stars do not touch. So you kinda see the pentagon, but not outright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAWeaver Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Sea Lions AltsThat white helmet looks great! @loganaweaver - Twitter / @loganaweaver - Instagram / Nike Vapor Untouchable Football Template / Logan's Logos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandMooreArt Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I wonder what the Denver franchise will be called? Hoping like hell they don't follow suit and choose these awful things...most likely the Gold or Miners, but they were open to suggestions GRAPHIC ARTIST BEHANCE / MEDIUM / DRIBBBLE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianLion Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Outside of LA's derivative name/look, they're all pretty solid.Would be nice to see the league get established and get on solid footing however before they start worrying about alts, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwmoore Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 This Schutt model helmet is growing on me.I like all three but just for giggles, I'd like to see a silver version of the full profile logo(which I'm guessing is the secondary?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCCoachArete Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 According to A11FL facebook page, uniform designs are probably going to be released in Mid March as a part of a free fan download. Also, the Dallas and Tampa Bay helmets are to be released on Thursday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmccarthy27 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 LA Express Blue Alt Helmet:Side note the white alt posted earlier is called the "Stormtrooper" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwmoore Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 LA Express Blue Alt Helmet:Side note the white alt posted earlier is called the "Stormtrooper"The tiny stripe on the blue confuses me a bit. I don't know why the white "negative" stripe wasn't used. I think I'd prefer none to the small one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illwauk Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 I also believe the original Staggs used the antlers/deer referral but that's another research job. To the best of my recollection, there has never been a pro sports franchise named the Chicago Staggs. The Chicago Stags - with a single "g" in the nickname - were a franchise in the Basketball Association of America and National Basketball Association. Said team did, in fact, feature a depiction of an adult male deer in its logo. And isn't that probably why they can't use it? The Bulls wore Stags throwbacks a few years back. The NBA probably still owns the identity. (And simply adding a G might not even be enough.)But the extra g makes the name a reference to Amos Alonzo Stagg, who coached the University of Chicago's football team during its glory years. And could the NBA really stop a name not currently used by any of their franchises from being used in a completely different sport? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian in Boston Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 But the extra g makes the name a reference to Amos Alonzo Stagg, who coached the University of Chicago's football team during its glory years. Then why the antlers on the helmet? If they wanted to honor Stagg, why not slap his profile on the helmet? The team could opt for either a fairly realistic portrayal of Stagg (à la the Washington Redskins' logo), or a more stylized depiction (akin to the New England Patriots' mark). Seriously though, if the team is going to primarily reference the "adult male deer" homophone of Stagg when it comes to visual branding, why not just go with Stags as the team name? Let people work out that a Chicago-based football team named the Stags is a tip-of-the-hat to the legendary, sound-alike coach.I know, I know... it isn't that big of a deal. Still, between the gimmicky offensive system at the core of the league's existence and the over-the-top three-helmet-designs-per-team nonsense, I'm about ready for the A11 Football League to err on the side of restraint somewhere... anywhere.That said, I do love that Stags' helmet design. Hey! Maybe one of the Stags' two alternate helmets will feature a profile of Amos Alonzo Stagg as on it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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