colortv Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 http://prosoccertalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/17/chivas-usa-heading-for-rebrand-trademarks-reportedly-filed-new-logos-leaked/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digby Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 FC or SC? At any rate, as I said in another thread, dunno that it's just the name that's the problem here. I'm not convinced that there are a few thousand more people in metro LA who want to watch MLS but don't want to support Galaxy or Chivas. Half-convinced it's all a ploy to dupe ticket-buyers who don't notice the missing "Galaxy" -- that top crest is nearly the same shape! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk36 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 I like this BUT:1. FC instead of SC2. Straight, not bowed, red cross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvrdgsfn Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Both look busy but if I had to pick one, I'd choose FC. Truth be told, I'm glad that the Chivas name is going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tohasbo Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Don't the Chivas USA team and the C.D. Guadalajara teams have something in common? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyk33 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Don't the Chivas USA team and the C.D. Guadalajara teams have something in common?CD Guadalajara owns Chivas USA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin W. Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Don't the Chivas USA team and the C.D. Guadalajara teams have something in common?Yes, they're both incredibly racist towards non-Mexicans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 The rebrand is kind of like giving the Titanic a new paint job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Truth be told, I'm glad that the Chivas name is going.We don't actually know that. This could be (should be) a rebrand, or it could be for a lower-level developmental team, or it could be an idle thought they've already abandoned. We have no confirmation that the Chivas name is going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddthebucfan Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Even if the Chivas name goes, I have a bad feeling that the Anti-NonMexican policy won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosrs1 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Even if the Chivas name goes, I have a bad feeling that the Anti-NonMexican policy won't.Seems that policy is already dying. They've made a lot of player and personnel pickups and most of them haven't been Mexican of late. It seems they got the message to an extent after the lawsuits and the absolute debacle that was their 2013. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin W. Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Even if the Chivas name goes, I have a bad feeling that the Anti-NonMexican policy won't.As long as they're owned by CD Guadalajara, it won't. That club is built on racism and xenophobia and anything it owns will follow that policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilton92 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 So why is the team getting a rebrand? Wouldn't having two teams with "Los Angeles" in their names get confusing, especially for soccer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I dunno. Nobody confuses the NY Rangers and the NY Islanders. Or the Lakers and the Clippers, and they also share a building. Why should it be more so for soccer? The Galaxy are primarily known as "The Galaxy" in my experience.As to the "why", it's because nobody cares about the team now. In a league with attendance averages around 19K per game, Chivas USA draws less than 7. Downright embarrassing. They're the Tampa Bay Rays of MLS, only they actually suck on the field as well as at the box office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddthebucfan Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 So why is the team getting a rebrand? Wouldn't having two teams with "Los Angeles" in their names get confusing, especially for soccer?And if there's anything to the rumors that Kroenke is looking for a soccer team to fill his LA land purchases (which I doubt mind you) than this gets even more confusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosrs1 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 So why is the team getting a rebrand? Wouldn't having two teams with "Los Angeles" in their names get confusing, especially for soccer?No one confuses the Mets and Yankees, Clippers and Lakers, Angels and Dodgers, Cubs and White Sox, Jets and Giants...And they're rebranding because their current brand is a second rate minor league ripoff of a Liga MX team's identity that no one in LA has ever identified with unless they're a sucker for all things "Chivas". And even then most Chivas Guadalajara fans are not fans of Chivas USA. And to add insult to injury their ownership has engaged in racist and exclusionary tactics with players and personnel that have harmed the franchise considerably and permanently scarred what little cache the name Chivas USA had left. It resulted in them getting crowds of an estimated 2000 or less a game this past season despite their reported attendance.They need a fresh start, and this is the first step. The next will to get their own venue in a different part of LA so they can continue to build their own identity rather than be the bastard son of an oft reviled Mexican team.So why is the team getting a rebrand? Wouldn't having two teams with "Los Angeles" in their names get confusing, especially for soccer?And if there's anything to the rumors that Kroenke is looking for a soccer team to fill his LA land purchases (which I doubt mind you) than this gets even more confusing.That crap came from the Sun. There is no truth to Kroenke wanting to put a soccer team in LA. There's not even rumor. There's just made up bull :censored: from a rag in the UK that's not even good enough to use as toilet paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilton92 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I dunno. Nobody confuses the NY Rangers and the NY Islanders. Or the Lakers and the Clippers, and they also share a building. Why should it be more so for soccer? The Galaxy are primarily known as "The Galaxy" in my experience.As to the "why", it's because nobody cares about the team now. In a league with attendance averages around 19K per game, Chivas USA draws less than 7. Downright embarrassing. They're the Tampa Bay Rays of MLS, only they actually suck on the field as well as at the box office.Except those teams have nicknames to differentiate between them. For soccer, it's mainly just the city name followed by "FC" or, in MLS's case, "SC". Yes, there are some exceptions, but those are few and far between. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeauxColonels Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 So why is the team getting a rebrand? Wouldn't having two teams with "Los Angeles" in their names get confusing, especially for soccer?Manchester CityManchester UnitedI don't see people getting them confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJAnfield Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I have a theory outside if the ones already talked about. Chivas USA needs a new home, and has been exploring a move within the LA area for some time now. USC has stated they would like to tear down the LA Sports Arena and build a new soccer stadium. If Chivas is indeed the target, USC may want the struggling team to rebrand or at least come up with an identity that would bring in fans that wouldn't associate or identify with the Mexican club. LA FC is a much more ambiguous identity that could perceivably draw in the casual fan. The Chivas brand brings with it an idea one has to be invested or identify with the Mexican link to the club, or that the club is ment to be a Latin American affair. This isn't true of all Chivas USA supporters, but it may make many many shy away. It may seem ethnocentric or even racist, but I think the club is keeping non Mexican fans away who don't feel comfortable supporting what is seen as a pseudo Mexican club. A new stadium on USC property may come with request to put a more European/American emphasis to the identity.Plus the leaked crests are crimson, very similar to Trojan colors. Maybe I'm reaching, but its a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discrim Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Adding to the "no confusion" pile: AC Milan/Inter Milan, Yokohama F. Marinos/Yokohama FC, Boston U/Boston College, Man Utd/FC Utd of Manchester, Dundee FC/Dundee Utd, Dynamo Moscow-Spartak Moscow-CSKA Moscow, Red Star Belgrade/Partizan Belgrade...I've probably overkilled the point by now.In any event, as long as they don't make all white with navy trim their first choice or coax Beckham out of retirement, nobody's gonna mistake LAFC for the Galaxy. Maybe they should revive the LA Aztecs name, seeing as it'd be rather foolish for the Galaxy to do so at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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