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The "W" is an upside-down "M", a style point the designers birrowed from counterfeit Jonathan Toews Blackhawks jerseys, I presume.

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This numeral pattern-thing seems to be a new Nike trend:

i dont know about that. they've been doing number sublimation since at least 2010.

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It's a nice addition to a jersey when it's done well. The Gators and LSU examples really add to the uniform and I like it with Seattle's uniform as well.

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I think it's fine for those two examples because they were special one time (supposedly) uniforms. IMO you can get away with a little design goofiness for "pro-combat" or rivalry jerseys. But when it bleeds into the everyday look it just seems too cute and fussy. Maybe stupid is a better word for it.

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The NFL trend of custom fonts for new uniforms is slowly turning into custom fonts with custom patterns. I hope the next step is custom textures. How sweet would the Cowboys be with cashmere numbers?

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The Titans could use rhinestones as number trim.

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The NFL trend of custom fonts for new uniforms is slowly turning into custom fonts with custom patterns. I hope the next step is custom textures. How sweet would the Cowboys be with cashmere numbers?

using different fabrics for numbers? i actually think that is very interesting. not sure how some of what i have in mind would hold up in certain weather conditions or over the course of a season, but for 1 or 2 games a year i think it sounds cool. flannel could be interesting

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The NFL trend of custom fonts for new uniforms is slowly turning into custom fonts with custom patterns. I hope the next step is custom textures. How sweet would the Cowboys be with cashmere numbers?

I think that would probably fit the Patriots better than the Cowboys

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The NFL trend of custom fonts for new uniforms is slowly turning into custom fonts with custom patterns. I hope the next step is custom textures. How sweet would the Cowboys be with cashmere numbers?

it actually wouldn't be unprecedented; it's occurred quite a bit in hockey. In the pre-Edge days, the sand-colored portions of the Coyotes' crest were made of a suede-like material. The "Anaheim" on the Mighty Ducks' black 3rd was done in chenille. Felt-twill numbers have become the standard for Winter Classic jerseys. And, of course, there's the Blackhawks' use of chain-stitching.

Proper use of material and texture can create a nice, subtle effect that emphasizes the quality of the item. Nike's use of it, however, has mostly been a cast iron skillet over the head.

using different fabrics for numbers? i actually think that is very interesting. not sure how some of what i have in mind would hold up in certain weather conditions or over the course of a season, but for 1 or 2 games a year i think it sounds cool. flannel could be interesting

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Yes Nike is running wild, but there is no getting around the fact that the NFL is allowing it.

I do agree with McCarthy that Reebok did a better job than Nike. But the teams and league could have and should have provided better oversight to prevent this.

Wow. Three or four years ago, who would of thought that this statement would ever be made? It's interesting... I think in the instances in which Nike simply came in and recreated existing designs, the on-field product generally looks better. (With a few obvious exceptions... Jets and Titans, for example.) But that's not really what everyone wants to discuss... what gets the people talking are the major overhauls and redbranding projects. And IMO if you compare the "cutting edge" redesigns done under Reeboks watch (Chargers, Cardinals, Vikings, etc) to the "cutting edge" redesigns of the past 3 years (Seahawks, Jaguars, Bucs), the Reebok unforms are all better. Still crappy, yes, but all of the former are obviously more about the individual team, and less about the manufacturer. I feel like Reebok was so much less likely to impose their corporate will on the teams (in fact most of the uniforms from the mid to late 00's seem to be more of a product of NFL properties then of Reebok) and, if not carefully controled by the team, Nike would be happy to make each redesign about them.

That's why I feel this whole "who's to blame" argument just really misses the point. People keep saying that the teams should be held more accountable because "of course, Nike is going to try to promote themselves first... that's their job". But, no... it isn't. At least it shouldn't be, not in this case. IMO Nike's number one responsibity here is to create the best possible product for the client. Any self-promotion should be a far distant second to that.

Sure, the team should be invoved in the process, and in the end is to "blame" for what they end up agreeing to. But why should they (the client) have to be so mindful of the possibilty that the company the league hired to make them look good will try to hijack the process? Why do we all just blindly accept that the company in charge of the NFL's uniforms will just "obviously" choose self-promotion over the needs of their client if they aren't watched like a hawk? That's a ridiculous position.

THIS is why I wish we still had Reebok. Yeah, Reebok's Vikings re-design was overly-trendy and not sustainable in terms of sticking around long-term. But I'd much rather see disappointing designs that are meant to represent the team than those meant to say "Nike is designing the uniforms." The Bucs and Seahawks now have uniforms that are meant to advertise Nike. I don't think Reebok was doing that.

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Reebok saved that for the NHL.

Touche.

That's true, though maybe not as true as Nike/NFL. The piping, and some other elements made it clear that the league was being overhauled and certainly brought Reebok more to the forefront than I'd like, but I still kinda think of some of that as bad/trendy design (like Falcons/Vikings).

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Usually things start to look better after time, once you've gotten "used" to them.

These actually get worse every single time I look at them. Nothing short of an absolute train wreck.

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Usually things start to look better after time, once you've gotten "used" to them.

These actually get worse every single time I look at them. Nothing short of an absolute train wreck.

I'm with you here. Usually, however bad it is, you figure you can at least get numb to it. But this looks more ridiculous with every new image.

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I know photos can be misleading, color-wise, but I swear that "pewter" has been darkened to the point that it isn't recognizable as that unique color that the Bucs owned.

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it looks like a college basketball jersey with a charcoal tshirt under it.

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Usually things start to look better after time, once you've gotten "used" to them.

These actually get worse every single time I look at them. Nothing short of an absolute train wreck.

I'm with you here. Usually, however bad it is, you figure you can at least get numb to it. But this looks more ridiculous with every new image.

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I know photos can be misleading, color-wise, but I swear that "pewter" has been darkened to the point that it isn't recognizable as that unique color that the Bucs owned.

That is the one thing I hate the most about the Bucs new look. The pants have lost the metallic sheen and are now flat matte. The loss of that finish changes everything. It is no longer the Bucs I remember for the last decade and a half.

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Usually things start to look better after time, once you've gotten "used" to them.

These actually get worse every single time I look at them. Nothing short of an absolute train wreck.

I'm with you here. Usually, however bad it is, you figure you can at least get numb to it. But this looks more ridiculous with every new image.

25iyomh.jpg

I know photos can be misleading, color-wise, but I swear that "pewter" has been darkened to the point that it isn't recognizable as that unique color that the Bucs owned.

That is the one thing I hate the most about the Bucs new look. The pants have lost the metallic sheen and are now flat matte. The loss of that finish changes everything. It is no longer the Bucs I remember for the last decade and a half.

Yeah, I agree, but it isn't just the sheen that's seems to be gone. The color itself is more neutral. The old pewter was a darkish neutral that had just a little warmth to it. A lot of posters have referred to as being "brownish" but that wasn't really it. Brown is just another neutral (brown being a "chromatic neutral"... meaning a neutral created from color... and gray being an "achromatic neutral"... meaning made from black and white). I'm a fine-art painter and I mix paint into colors all day, and if I were trying to eyeball-mix the old Buccaneer pewter, I wouldn't add brown to gray (because, really, all browns are just variations of red + yellow + blue), I'd have to try to figure out what actual color is altering that dark gray, and giving it that earthy warmth it used to have. This new "pewter"... to me, it appears to be just straight up dark gray. Pretty disappointing.

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