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Gwynn's death has made John Gibbons decide to finally give up chewing tobacco.

What a joke. A sudden realization to quit because Gwynn died from it? Even though He knows about the risks of chewing tobacco (much worse for you than any other form of tobacco, and just plain disgusting) way before he died. Or the millions of other people who probably die from chewing tobacco every year.

Sounds to me like a pretty crappy excuse to end your addiction, and probably won't last too long. Basing your decision to quit because of one guy is rather cynical.

You're a joke. Gwynn's death, caused by chewing tobacco, is a crappy excuse to quite using chewing tobacco? LOGIC.

A wake up call doesn't have to make sense to you. Tony Gwynn would still be alive if it weren't for a habit. Who are you to say it wasn't the final straw for John Gibbons?

My dad quit drinking when his uncle died from alcoholism, but that's probably a joke and a crappy excuse to quit drinking. Get lost.

Oh don't give me a personal example to justify the situation. Sure, if the results are positive from it, I guess it doesn't matter where the motivation came from. But from a objective viewpoint, that's a very selfish way of handling an addiction. Here's to hoping he can cut the chewing tobacco for good.

I used a personal example because it highlights how ridiculous your stance is, which is essentially "Quitting because of one guy is selfish and cynical and he's going to relapse". WHAT

Tell me, what would be an acceptable reason to you for John Gibbons to quit chewing tobacco? If a beloved baseball figure, who he probably knew, dying from it isn't good enough then I don't know what is.

Other than a personal death, what about the millions of other reasons for not doing chewing tobacco?

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Gwynn's death has made John Gibbons decide to finally give up chewing tobacco.

What a joke. A sudden realization to quit because Gwynn died from it? Even though He knows about the risks of chewing tobacco (much worse for you than any other form of tobacco, and just plain disgusting) way before he died. Or the millions of other people who probably die from chewing tobacco every year.

Sounds to me like a pretty crappy excuse to end your addiction, and probably won't last too long. Basing your decision to quit because of one guy is rather cynical.

You're a joke. Gwynn's death, caused by chewing tobacco, is a crappy excuse to quite using chewing tobacco? LOGIC.

A wake up call doesn't have to make sense to you. Tony Gwynn would still be alive if it weren't for a habit. Who are you to say it wasn't the final straw for John Gibbons?

My dad quit drinking when his uncle died from alcoholism, but that's probably a joke and a crappy excuse to quit drinking. Get lost.

Oh don't give me a personal example to justify the situation. Sure, if the results are positive from it, I guess it doesn't matter where the motivation came from. But from a objective viewpoint, that's a very selfish way of handling an addiction. Here's to hoping he can cut the chewing tobacco for good.
I used a personal example because it highlights how ridiculous your stance is, which is essentially "Quitting because of one guy is selfish and cynical and he's going to relapse". WHAT

Tell me, what would be an acceptable reason to you for John Gibbons to quit chewing tobacco? If a beloved baseball figure, who he probably knew, dying from it isn't good enough then I don't know what is.

Other than a personal death, what about the millions of other reasons for not doing chewing tobacco?

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Gwynn's death has made John Gibbons decide to finally give up chewing tobacco.

What a joke. A sudden realization to quit because Gwynn died from it? Even though He knows about the risks of chewing tobacco (much worse for you than any other form of tobacco, and just plain disgusting) way before he died. Or the millions of other people who probably die from chewing tobacco every year.

Sounds to me like a pretty crappy excuse to end your addiction, and probably won't last too long. Basing your decision to quit because of one guy is rather cynical.

You're a joke. Gwynn's death, caused by chewing tobacco, is a crappy excuse to quite using chewing tobacco? LOGIC.

A wake up call doesn't have to make sense to you. Tony Gwynn would still be alive if it weren't for a habit. Who are you to say it wasn't the final straw for John Gibbons?

My dad quit drinking when his uncle died from alcoholism, but that's probably a joke and a crappy excuse to quit drinking. Get lost.

Oh don't give me a personal example to justify the situation. Sure, if the results are positive from it, I guess it doesn't matter where the motivation came from. But from a objective viewpoint, that's a very selfish way of handling an addiction. Here's to hoping he can cut the chewing tobacco for good.
I used a personal example because it highlights how ridiculous your stance is, which is essentially "Quitting because of one guy is selfish and cynical and he's going to relapse". WHAT

Tell me, what would be an acceptable reason to you for John Gibbons to quit chewing tobacco? If a beloved baseball figure, who he probably knew, dying from it isn't good enough then I don't know what is.

Other than a personal death, what about the millions of other reasons for not doing chewing tobacco?

Did it not occur to you that the closeness of Gwynn's death might have been a wake-up call to Gibby about those risks?

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Gwynn's death has made John Gibbons decide to finally give up chewing tobacco.

What a joke. A sudden realization to quit because Gwynn died from it? Even though He knows about the risks of chewing tobacco (much worse for you than any other form of tobacco, and just plain disgusting) way before he died. Or the millions of other people who probably die from chewing tobacco every year.

Sounds to me like a pretty crappy excuse to end your addiction, and probably won't last too long. Basing your decision to quit because of one guy is rather cynical.

You're a joke. Gwynn's death, caused by chewing tobacco, is a crappy excuse to quite using chewing tobacco? LOGIC.

A wake up call doesn't have to make sense to you. Tony Gwynn would still be alive if it weren't for a habit. Who are you to say it wasn't the final straw for John Gibbons?

My dad quit drinking when his uncle died from alcoholism, but that's probably a joke and a crappy excuse to quit drinking. Get lost.

Oh don't give me a personal example to justify the situation. Sure, if the results are positive from it, I guess it doesn't matter where the motivation came from. But from a objective viewpoint, that's a very selfish way of handling an addiction. Here's to hoping he can cut the chewing tobacco for good.

I used a personal example because it highlights how ridiculous your stance is, which is essentially "Quitting because of one guy is selfish and cynical and he's going to relapse". WHAT

Tell me, what would be an acceptable reason to you for John Gibbons to quit chewing tobacco? If a beloved baseball figure, who he probably knew, dying from it isn't good enough then I don't know what is.

Other than a personal death, what about the millions of other reasons for not doing chewing tobacco?

Sure, but when it hits close to home it has more impact on someone, which is why I brought up my family experience.

It's not a joke that he quit using chewing tobacco because of Tony Gwynn. Beat it.

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And this is the point where the Giants quietly disappear into nothingness.

They'll he fine, this is just a rough stretch. Plenty of baseball left.

They're always fine until they're not. This is eerily similar to last year: start off strong, offense is picking up, pitching is holding up, and then the Toronto series happened, along with Pagan getting injured. They never recovered from that, and the exact same things are happening now.

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And this is the point where the Giants quietly disappear into nothingness.

They'll he fine, this is just a rough stretch. Plenty of baseball left.

They're always fine until they're not. This is eerily similar to last year: start off strong, offense is picking up, pitching is holding up, and then the Toronto series happened, along with Pagan getting injured.

The thing last year though was that the pitching wasn't holding up in the start. Cain started out poorly, Lincecum's problems from 2012 were back, Vogelsong was shaky, Zito was back to "classic" form, and the offense/bullpen constantly had to bail out the pitching. Then Pagan got injured, and the offense went out of sync. Like BucFan said, just a rough stretch.

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Gwynn's death has made John Gibbons decide to finally give up chewing tobacco.

What a joke. A sudden realization to quit because Gwynn died from it? Even though He knows about the risks of chewing tobacco (much worse for you than any other form of tobacco, and just plain disgusting) way before he died. Or the millions of other people who probably die from chewing tobacco every year.

Sounds to me like a pretty crappy excuse to end your addiction, and probably won't last too long. Basing your decision to quit because of one guy is rather cynical.

You're a joke. Gwynn's death, caused by chewing tobacco, is a crappy excuse to quite using chewing tobacco? LOGIC.

A wake up call doesn't have to make sense to you. Tony Gwynn would still be alive if it weren't for a habit. Who are you to say it wasn't the final straw for John Gibbons?

My dad quit drinking when his uncle died from alcoholism, but that's probably a joke and a crappy excuse to quit drinking. Get lost.

Oh don't give me a personal example to justify the situation. Sure, if the results are positive from it, I guess it doesn't matter where the motivation came from. But from a objective viewpoint, that's a very selfish way of handling an addiction. Here's to hoping he can cut the chewing tobacco for good.

I used a personal example because it highlights how ridiculous your stance is, which is essentially "Quitting because of one guy is selfish and cynical and he's going to relapse". WHAT

Tell me, what would be an acceptable reason to you for John Gibbons to quit chewing tobacco? If a beloved baseball figure, who he probably knew, dying from it isn't good enough then I don't know what is.

Other than a personal death, what about the millions of other reasons for not doing chewing tobacco?

Sure, but when it hits close to home it has more impact on someone, which is why I brought up my family experience.

It's not a joke that he quit using chewing tobacco because of Tony Gwynn. Beat it.

And I'm saying I don't think that's the best motivation factor. There's nothing good that comes from chewing tobacco. if you need a death close to the heart to realize that, so be it. I just think that's weak and it's going to be more difficult for him to end his addiction. You beat it, I don't need to sugarcoat the dangers of chewing tobacco.

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Anyways, Billy Hamilton is hitting .298 in his last 50 games and has 4 home runs. I really thought he was one dimensional coming into this year. Scouts were saying he was going to be a disaster at the plate and early on it looked that way. He's made adjustments and he's just as big of a pest at the plate as he is on the bases. His centerfield play and his arm is really good as well.

He's way more of a gamer than I thought he was gonna be and he belongs at the major league level in every way. It's nice when a player's hype is met or exceeded. Doesn't happen very often.

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Surprised that there hasn't been a mention yet of Richard Durrett from the Rangers beat passing away suddenly from a brain aneurysm yesterday at the age of 38. Leaves behind a wife, two kids, and a third one that's on the way. Reading the editorials from colleagues in his business and others that knew him well, you get a sense that he was a well respected individual and made a great impact on, well, das leben der anderen. RIP.

It can all happen so suddenly. Tell you what - it spooks the hell out of me, that's for sure.

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On a different note, here's Tom Verducci, writing out (probably better) the same thing I've bitched about for the past three seasons. Thanks.

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Clayton Kershaw throws a no-hitter. 15 Ks, 0 H, 0 BB, only one man reached on error to miss out on the perfect game. Incredible performance. Absolutely dominant. This wasn't one of those squeaky no-nos, this was absolutely perfect. (Hanley Ramirez should be sick. He should buy Kershaw steak dinners after every start for the rest of the season.)

And watching Vin Scully's call on Fox Sports 1 and MLB Network, impeccable. "0-2... Got 'em! He's done it." So simple. So Scully.

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The Dodgers have 2014's first two no-hitters, tonight's being Clayton Kershaw's.

Even if he is a Dodger and I am a Giants fan, I would have to congratulate Kershaw on throwing a no-no.

(In other news, the Dodgers are only 4 games behind the Giants. Uh oh.)

I'm surprised that it didn't come earlier. A lot of season left, but now it's getting interesting in LA and SF.

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As far as I'm concerned, a no hit, no walk, and no HBP performance might as well be a perfect game. Hanley's throwing error was a routine play. It's pretty crummy for a pitcher to lose perfect game status for a mistake that wasn't their fault in any way. I know why it is the way it is, and it kind of has to be that way, but still, that sucks.

Game score of 102. The only other performance I know of in that territory was Kerry Wood's 20K performance which had a 105 game score.

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I think the Giants and Dodgers are on an October collision course, they might be the two best teams in the National League when all is said and done.

The best thing about the No Hitter today was watching it on MLB Network with the Master at the Mic. Nobody is better, nobody will ever be better and nobody in the past has called a game better than Vin Scully.

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After waiting 18 years for another Dodger no-hitter to happen, they now have two of them a month apart. Kershaw's 15 strikeouts are the most in a no-no by a lefty since Warren Spahn in 1960. The last no-hitter thrown where the only way the man reached base was via a fielding error was in 2009 with San Francisco's Jonathan Sanchez, and his SS was Juan Uribe.

Hopefully with all this, MLB and Domino's Pizza better not screw up their free pizza giveaway again.

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And i go to the game last night! I'm glad for Kershaw, he gets his first of meany and he did it at home so his family, the fans and Vin Scully. Its a shame Hanley hurt his trowing hand last night because i have a feeling that if he doesn't he makes the play. also a nice coincidence is that Clayton #22 gets the Dodgers 22nd No-Hitter. This is also Vins 19th No-Hitter called, think about that.

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