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1 minute ago, goalieboy82 said:

i think we might get a weird final then (something like, Turkey VS Nigeria) since i think a lot of the UEFA countries will send there B or C teams (i just don't think that the Premier League and the other top leagues in Europe wont shut down for 6 to 8 weeks)  

unless FIFA give them extra money and says 2030 is in Europe.  

 

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1 minute ago, goalieboy82 said:

unless FIFA give them extra money and says 2030 is in Europe.  

 

 

They don't have enough money to pay off the clubs in Europe.

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On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said:
You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now.
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I'm all for this.  The Qataris literally paid off FIFA brass to get the world to watch their event in 2022, so why not make it 50% larger so that they can REALLY show what they're all about on a world stage?  :lol:

 

As for the competition itself, a 32-team format or a 48 won't matter, because the end outcome will be the same.  Croatia is an aberration and not the new norm.  The finals will likely be some combination of the Germans, Argentinians, French, Brazilians, English, Mexicans or some other traditional soccer hotbed.  What I'd like to see in Qatar?  A Cameroon vs. United States final.  Simply because that's what the event deserves.

 

2022 is going to be a :censored:show any way it plays out - 32 team format, 48 team format, 192 team format, it won't matter.  They'll be lucky if a player doesn't wind up dying on a pitch.  You know the world's press will highlight how many people have died already in the name of building these stadia they're going to use for this farce.

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1 hour ago, goalieboy82 said:

I guess the quota of Sub-Indian or Southeast Asian indentured servants, err workers dying during construction of stadiums, training venues, roadways and hotels hasn't been met yet.

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1 hour ago, Mac the Knife said:

Croatia is an aberration and not the new norm.  The finals will likely be some combination of the Germans, Argentinians, French, Brazilians, English, Mexicans or some other traditional soccer hotbed.

Huh?

 

Mexico has made the quarter-finals of the World Cup exactly twice, in 1970 when they hosted and in 1986 when they hosted. They’ve never gotten past the round of 16 outside home soil.

 

Sure, Croatia is a small country, but it’s a small country that’s now made two semi-finals in the six years it’s been an independent nation eligible to compete in the World Cup, and before that, it was part of Yugoslavia, which reached two semi-finals itself and six quarter-finals (well, technically five quarters plus the second group stage in 1974, which consisted of the last eight teams). 

 

Croatia in the final is a lot more natural than Mexico in the final would be.

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2 minutes ago, crashcarson15 said:

Huh?

 

Mexico has made the quarter-finals of the World Cup exactly twice, in 1970 when they hosted and in 1986 when they hosted. They’ve never gotten past the round of 16 outside home soil.

 

Sure, Croatia is a small country, but it’s a small country that’s now made two semi-finals in the six years it’s been an independent nation eligible to compete in the World Cup, and before that, it was part of Yugoslavia, which reached two semi-finals itself and six quarter-finals (well, technically five quarters plus the second group stage in 1974, which consisted of the last eight teams). 

 

Croatia in the final is a lot more natural than Mexico in the final would be.

 

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On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said:
You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now.
On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said:
Today, we are all otaku.

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The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy)

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21 hours ago, Mac the Knife said:

 

2022 is going to be a :censored:show any way it plays out - 32 team format, 48 team format, 192 team format, it won't matter.  They'll be lucky if a player doesn't wind up dying on a pitch.  You know the world's press will highlight how many people have died already in the name of building these stadia they're going to use for this farce.

November-December in Qatar is usually mid-80's and 90's. Fans may fall over but players shouldn't. African, South American and Asian teams will benefit the most early due to aclimitization. All club competitions have to halt on Oct. 27 so for MLS, USL and CPL players that make the playoffs they may face the biggest issue of being too banged up for the World Cup.

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1 hour ago, goalieboy82 said:

for now.

If they bump up to 48 teams in 2022 you'd probably see another country brought in to help host games. 80 games across 9 fields in a 30 day period would lead to a lot of damage. The biggest issue for Qatar at present is it's options for co-hosts would most likely be African nations and not Asian countries since they're squabbling with a few OPEC nations. 

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29 minutes ago, MJWalker45 said:

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/48373886

FIFA makes a somewhat sensible, but not the correct decision. They have decided not to increase the amount of teams for Qatar to 48.

 

* - The correct decision is to still move it from Qatar, but FIFA's married to that albatross now. 

There was no way Qatar could do 48. I still say they move it (since the US is off the table, I would suggest Australia and New Zealand (together) or the UK as the most "ready on a short notice" nation that could take the World Cup), but that's incredibly unlikely.

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Just now, Magic Dynasty said:

There was no way Qatar could do 48. I still say they move it (since the US is off the table, I would suggest Australia and New Zealand (together) or the UK as the most "ready on a short notice" nation that could take the World Cup), but that's incredibly unlikely.

I think the biggest issue was finding a willing partner to help them with 48 teams. They've been at odds with their neighbors for a multitude of issues not related to soccer. I still can't see where all of the current 32 teams will fit as it is right now, let alone around 1-2 million fans. 

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3 hours ago, Magic Dynasty said:

There was no way Qatar could do 48. I still say they move it (since the US is off the table, I would suggest Australia and New Zealand (together) or the UK as the most "ready on a short notice" nation that could take the World Cup), but that's incredibly unlikely.

lets see what the Middle East looks in 2 years and maybe they FIFA moves it.  

so long and thanks for all the fish.

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20 hours ago, goalieboy82 said:

lets see what the Middle East looks in 2 years and maybe they FIFA moves it.  

FIFA's planning an expanded Club World Cup in the summer of 2021 as a way to make up for money lost by not having the Confederations Cup. While that shouldn't truly affect Qatar, the only way they don't have the World Cup there is the Saudis and Egyptians level it, which won't happen because they still get a split of their oil money. 

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AFCON Players Union says they need 4 water breaks during games

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/48716285

African Cup of Nations is apparently forecasting temperatures of 104 F during the tournament, which is being played in Egypt. I know moving it helped the European clubs, but unless the tournament is held in the south, they need to keep this in January. Clubs may lose great players for a month but I'd rather not lose a player permanently due to heat stroke. 

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1 hour ago, MJWalker45 said:

AFCON Players Union says they need 4 water breaks during games

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/48716285

African Cup of Nations is apparently forecasting temperatures of 104 F during the tournament, which is being played in Egypt. I know moving it helped the European clubs, but unless the tournament is held in the south, they need to keep this in January. Clubs may lose great players for a month but I'd rather not lose a player permanently due to heat stroke. 

 

I just recently found out that Phoenix Rising of the USL has mandatory "Water and Safety" breaks during matches. Is this a relatively common thing around soccer in areas where it's unusually warm?

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32 minutes ago, Bucfan56 said:

 

I just recently found out that Phoenix Rising of the USL has mandatory "Water and Safety" breaks during matches. Is this a relatively common thing around soccer in areas where it's unusually warm?

Only in the last few years. FIFA didn't even make the water breaks mandatory until Brazil 2014. That's partly why San Antonio FC plays most of it's home matches after 7 PM in summer. The humidity adds to the heat threat. 

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9 minutes ago, MJWalker45 said:

Only in the last few years. FIFA didn't even make the water breaks mandatory until Brazil 2014. That's partly why San Antonio FC plays most of it's home matches after 7 PM in summer. The humidity adds to the heat threat. 

 

Republic does the same thing. We start early/late season matches at 7, and in the middle of the season our matches start at 8. Never seen the water breaks, though. I certainly get it in places like Phoenix and San Antonio, though!

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Water breaks are mandatory in Orlando if the temperature is above a certain mark (I believe it's 95). However, because we usually get 6:00 or 7:00 games during the summer, it's only happened a few times. I'd assume it's the same in Houston, Dallas, LA, etc.

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