Lights Out Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Another thing is, Sterling's getting paid whether Clipper fans switch to the Lakers or not. Merch sales, revenue, etc., he's getting a cut of it as long as the league is operating and making money and he's an owner. If rooting for the Clippers makes you a racist apologist than so does rooting for any other NBA team.The onus is not on the fans to put a stop to this piece of :censored:. The league has to be the ones to take action and force him out. POTD: 2/4/12 3/4/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Another thing is, Sterling's getting paid whether Clipper fans switch to the Lakers or not. Merch sales, revenue, etc., he's getting a cut of it as long as the league is operating and making money and he's an owner. If rooting for the Clippers makes you a racist apologist than so does rooting for any other NBA team.Well no, because Sterling makes money off of ticket sales and (presumably) in-stadium merchandise sales. Not to mention tv contracts he has. There are plenty of revenue streams that Sterling profits from that do not include the rest of the NBA.Now that NBA would certainly be better off without Donald Sterling. I'm just saying these "take the team away!" posts are silly because that's not how things work in the real world. If he's forced out of the NBA he's making a few hundred million on the way out. So he's getting paid even if he's forced out of the NBA. That's not the punishment. The punishment is that his reputation, which wasn't the greatest before all of this, is now ruined beyond compare. How his business ventures outside of the NBA are affected is the actual endgame.And yeah, I stand by what I said earlier. Donald Sterling, like it or not, is inseparable from the Los Angeles Clippers so long as he remains the owner. So yeah. I feel like that has to be considered when choosing your NBA's fandom. PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockstar Matt Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 If this becomes a Lakers-pissing-on-Clippers thing....Let's be honest though...there's a case to be made that this should be enough to discourage someone from rooting for the Clippers.Let's consider the fact that the Clippers aren't like other "B" teams in major markets. Cubs/White Sox, Rangers/Islanders, etc... are all based around the idea that one team appeals to one part of a metropolitan area while the other team appeals to another. The Lakers/Clippers situation isn't like that. If it were the Clippers would be playing in Anaheim and trying to appeal to Orange County while leaving LA-proper to the Lakers. Instead the Clippers have decided to try and appeal to the same base fanbase as the Lakers.So if you're a Clippers fan and you're disgusted by Sterling's comments (and if you're a decent human being you should be disgusted by his comments) why stay loyal to the Clippers? It's not like they're your hometown team that you support despite the owner. The Lakers, technically speaking, represent you as much as the Clippers do as a Los Angeles-based NBA fan. And they're not run by a racist.Also, it's not like Sterling is a relatively new owner. He's owned the team since 1981. He's the only owner the team's known since coming to Los Angeles. So it's not like the "Los Angeles Clippers" have a legacy of non-racist douchebag owners a fan can say Sterling infringed upon. In many ways Donald Sterling IS the Los Angeles Clippers.So yeah. If I were a Clippers fan in the LA metro area I would switch allegiances. There's nothing about the Clippers team that I can't get out of basketball fandom from the Lakers. They represent the same area and they aren't run by a racist pos.That is, of course, assuming he doesn't sell the team. admiral is right. You can't dissolve arena and tv contracts because Donald Sterling is a despicable human being, and you can't revoke his ownership of the team for that reason either. The NBA can apply pressure and make it known they want him gone, but if he decides not to sell, well that's that. Besides, if he sells he'll get hundreds of millions of dollars out of it. I'm not sure how that really punishes Donald Sterling in the long run. And so now you're gonna try and stir up some faux outrage?I'd say your act's worn thin, but I don't think it ever really had legs.Anyway that's a disingenuous position to take. A racist says something offensive and people are just stirring up "faux outrage"? Sorry gonger. People are outraged because...surprise, people don't like racists! I'd say it's a very genuine form of outrage myself. Sterling is one of the reasons why I've never adopted the Clippers as my second favorite team. If it weren't for him, I'd definitely root them on a secondary basis.And Cap, I'm not even sure why you responded to that gong dude. His comments aren't adding to the discussion (nor have they ever) and I'm sure he'll be banned at some point.Question for the community: couldn't the other 29 owners force the Clippers out and thusly Sterling? Couldn't the owners say they don't want to play Sterlings team any more unitil the Clippers are no longer associated with him. Cowboys - Lakers - LAFC - USMNT - LA Rams - LA Kings - NUFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Question for the community: couldn't the other 29 owners force the Clippers out and thusly Sterling? Couldn't the owners say they don't want to play Sterlings team any more unitil the Clippers are no longer associated with him.I don't think so. The NBA can't "force" him out. The Clippers are a NBA team, and Sterling owns them. You can't just take the team away because he's a terrible human being. So they'd have to convince him to sell the team himself. Which means that he'll make a nice chunk of change. PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 What did baseball do to Marge Schott? She was worse than this guy. Didn't they make her disappear, even if they couldn't take the team? I realize she still got paid, but as has been said, there's no avoiding that. "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderbread Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Question for the community: couldn't the other 29 owners force the Clippers out and thusly Sterling? Couldn't the owners say they don't want to play Sterlings team any more unitil the Clippers are no longer associated with him.I don't think so. The NBA can't "force" him out. The Clippers are a NBA team, and Sterling owns them. You can't just take the team away because he's a terrible human being. So they'd have to convince him to sell the team himself. Which means that he'll make a nice chunk of change. no what he was asking is if they can force the clippers out of the NBA, not Sterling, which i don't know about completely but i feel it could be possible with a vote from the owners, and i feel it would need to be close to unanimous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Yeah, billionaires generally don't establish precedents for people to take their stuff away. What I see is some sort of phony-baloney "negotiated leave of absence" where he is no longer on the league's board of governors, can have no say in basketball operations, and can't sit courtside as the public face of ownership. This will be presented as a mutual agreement rather than Silver unilaterally getting out the boomstick because he quite frankly doesn't have the personal capital to do that yet, and the guy who could have done it never did. This will allow everyone to come out as unscathed as possible: Silver does the obvious right thing, Sterling goes away without losing anything of value, and there's no scary display of power that pisses off the other old rich dudes who probably don't like The Blacks any more than Donald does. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomDreamer Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 What did baseball do to Marge Schott? She was worse than this guy. Didn't they make her disappear, even if they couldn't take the team? I realize she still got paid, but as has been said, there's no avoiding that.They banned her after comments she made about Hitler and she eventually agreed to sell her interest in the Reds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 By the way, before Rick Reilly turned into a self-plagiarizing schlock merchant, he did a terrific piece on Marge Schott and the pervasive grimness of the mid-1990s Cincinnati Reds: http://si.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1008139/index.htm ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 self-plagiarizing schlock merchantI feel like this needs to be on a t-shirt. PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluggerplugger1 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Did some light googling after finding out Sterling had a girlfriend who looked no older than 30, and this dude has a wife? Like, does anyone else find THAT whole situation very uncomfortable, gross, and dysfunctional? Then you consider the fact that Donald is an awful excuse for a human being and...just, man, c'mon. I can't believe this is happening in 2014. I guess I can't be too surprised though, given his track record.As for saying he'll "win" if the NBA forces him out of the league, I really don't think there can be many winners coming out of a situation like this no matter what the outcome is. It's just sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colortv Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 The man is just a colossal d-bag:http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4187729 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 What did baseball do to Marge Schott? She was worse than this guy. Didn't they make her disappear, even if they couldn't take the team? I realize she still got paid, but as has been said, there's no avoiding that.Marge Schott had business partners on the Reds and MLB basically arraigned a hostile takeover to buy her out. www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockstar Matt Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Question for the community: couldn't the other 29 owners force the Clippers out and thusly Sterling? Couldn't the owners say they don't want to play Sterlings team any more unitil the Clippers are no longer associated with him.I don't think so. The NBA can't "force" him out. The Clippers are a NBA team, and Sterling owns them. You can't just take the team away because he's a terrible human being. So they'd have to convince him to sell the team himself. Which means that he'll make a nice chunk of change. no what he was asking is if they can force the clippers out of the NBA, not Sterling, which i don't know about completely but i feel it could be possible with a vote from the owners, and i feel it would need to be close to unanimous That's what I meant. I think it's possible for the other 29 teams to force the Clippers (as a team) out, but not Sterling himself. Cowboys - Lakers - LAFC - USMNT - LA Rams - LA Kings - NUFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muggens Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 There is a way to get rid of Donald Sterling. Let's discuss in private. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 self-plagiarizing schlock merchantI feel like this needs to be on a t-shirt.This would be an awesome slogan for those T shirts you see during fraternity rush season at major universities. On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubsFanBudMan Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 This SI piece covers a lot of the legal ground:http://m.si.com/4157973/whats-next-for-nba-in-donald-sterling-case-from-a-legal-standpoint/Long, but informative on the NBA's realistic options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CS85 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Deadspin acquired the "extended clip."http://deadspin.com/exclusive-the-extended-donald-sterling-tape-1568291249?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow Quote "You are nothing more than a small cancer on this message board. You are not entertaining, you are a complete joke." twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAD! Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 I guess whatever happens, I will never hear the term Sterling Silver the same way ever again. I saw, I came, I left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodboy13 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 You mean, "At least he isn't getting that award for the second time." On 1/25/2013 at 1:53 PM, 'Atom said: For all the bird de lis haters I think the bird de lis isnt supposed to be a pelican and a fleur de lis I think its just a fleur de lis with a pelicans head. Thats what it looks like to me. Also the flair around the tip of the beak is just flair that fleur de lis have sometimes source I am from NOLA. PotD: 10/19/07, 08/25/08, 07/22/10, 08/13/10, 04/15/11, 05/19/11, 01/02/12, and 01/05/12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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