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Another thing is, Sterling's getting paid whether Clipper fans switch to the Lakers or not. Merch sales, revenue, etc., he's getting a cut of it as long as the league is operating and making money and he's an owner. If rooting for the Clippers makes you a racist apologist than so does rooting for any other NBA team.

The onus is not on the fans to put a stop to this piece of :censored:. The league has to be the ones to take action and force him out.

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Another thing is, Sterling's getting paid whether Clipper fans switch to the Lakers or not. Merch sales, revenue, etc., he's getting a cut of it as long as the league is operating and making money and he's an owner. If rooting for the Clippers makes you a racist apologist than so does rooting for any other NBA team.

Well no, because Sterling makes money off of ticket sales and (presumably) in-stadium merchandise sales. Not to mention tv contracts he has. There are plenty of revenue streams that Sterling profits from that do not include the rest of the NBA.

Now that NBA would certainly be better off without Donald Sterling. I'm just saying these "take the team away!" posts are silly because that's not how things work in the real world. If he's forced out of the NBA he's making a few hundred million on the way out. So he's getting paid even if he's forced out of the NBA. That's not the punishment. The punishment is that his reputation, which wasn't the greatest before all of this, is now ruined beyond compare. How his business ventures outside of the NBA are affected is the actual endgame.

And yeah, I stand by what I said earlier. Donald Sterling, like it or not, is inseparable from the Los Angeles Clippers so long as he remains the owner. So yeah. I feel like that has to be considered when choosing your NBA's fandom.

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If this becomes a Lakers-pissing-on-Clippers thing....

Let's be honest though...there's a case to be made that this should be enough to discourage someone from rooting for the Clippers.

Let's consider the fact that the Clippers aren't like other "B" teams in major markets. Cubs/White Sox, Rangers/Islanders, etc... are all based around the idea that one team appeals to one part of a metropolitan area while the other team appeals to another. The Lakers/Clippers situation isn't like that. If it were the Clippers would be playing in Anaheim and trying to appeal to Orange County while leaving LA-proper to the Lakers. Instead the Clippers have decided to try and appeal to the same base fanbase as the Lakers.

So if you're a Clippers fan and you're disgusted by Sterling's comments (and if you're a decent human being you should be disgusted by his comments) why stay loyal to the Clippers? It's not like they're your hometown team that you support despite the owner. The Lakers, technically speaking, represent you as much as the Clippers do as a Los Angeles-based NBA fan. And they're not run by a racist.

Also, it's not like Sterling is a relatively new owner. He's owned the team since 1981. He's the only owner the team's known since coming to Los Angeles. So it's not like the "Los Angeles Clippers" have a legacy of non-racist douchebag owners a fan can say Sterling infringed upon. In many ways Donald Sterling IS the Los Angeles Clippers.

So yeah. If I were a Clippers fan in the LA metro area I would switch allegiances. There's nothing about the Clippers team that I can't get out of basketball fandom from the Lakers. They represent the same area and they aren't run by a racist pos.

That is, of course, assuming he doesn't sell the team. admiral is right. You can't dissolve arena and tv contracts because Donald Sterling is a despicable human being, and you can't revoke his ownership of the team for that reason either. The NBA can apply pressure and make it known they want him gone, but if he decides not to sell, well that's that. Besides, if he sells he'll get hundreds of millions of dollars out of it. I'm not sure how that really punishes Donald Sterling in the long run.

And so now you're gonna try and stir up some faux outrage?

I'd say your act's worn thin, but I don't think it ever really had legs.

Anyway that's a disingenuous position to take. A racist says something offensive and people are just stirring up "faux outrage"? Sorry gonger. People are outraged because...surprise, people don't like racists! I'd say it's a very genuine form of outrage myself.

Sterling is one of the reasons why I've never adopted the Clippers as my second favorite team. If it weren't for him, I'd definitely root them on a secondary basis.

And Cap, I'm not even sure why you responded to that gong dude. His comments aren't adding to the discussion (nor have they ever) and I'm sure he'll be banned at some point.

Question for the community: couldn't the other 29 owners force the Clippers out and thusly Sterling? Couldn't the owners say they don't want to play Sterlings team any more unitil the Clippers are no longer associated with him.

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Question for the community: couldn't the other 29 owners force the Clippers out and thusly Sterling? Couldn't the owners say they don't want to play Sterlings team any more unitil the Clippers are no longer associated with him.

I don't think so. The NBA can't "force" him out. The Clippers are a NBA team, and Sterling owns them. You can't just take the team away because he's a terrible human being. So they'd have to convince him to sell the team himself. Which means that he'll make a nice chunk of change.

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What did baseball do to Marge Schott? She was worse than this guy. Didn't they make her disappear, even if they couldn't take the team? I realize she still got paid, but as has been said, there's no avoiding that.

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Question for the community: couldn't the other 29 owners force the Clippers out and thusly Sterling? Couldn't the owners say they don't want to play Sterlings team any more unitil the Clippers are no longer associated with him.

I don't think so. The NBA can't "force" him out. The Clippers are a NBA team, and Sterling owns them. You can't just take the team away because he's a terrible human being. So they'd have to convince him to sell the team himself. Which means that he'll make a nice chunk of change.

no what he was asking is if they can force the clippers out of the NBA, not Sterling, which i don't know about completely but i feel it could be possible with a vote from the owners, and i feel it would need to be close to unanimous

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Yeah, billionaires generally don't establish precedents for people to take their stuff away.

What I see is some sort of phony-baloney "negotiated leave of absence" where he is no longer on the league's board of governors, can have no say in basketball operations, and can't sit courtside as the public face of ownership. This will be presented as a mutual agreement rather than Silver unilaterally getting out the boomstick because he quite frankly doesn't have the personal capital to do that yet, and the guy who could have done it never did. This will allow everyone to come out as unscathed as possible: Silver does the obvious right thing, Sterling goes away without losing anything of value, and there's no scary display of power that pisses off the other old rich dudes who probably don't like The Blacks any more than Donald does.

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What did baseball do to Marge Schott? She was worse than this guy. Didn't they make her disappear, even if they couldn't take the team? I realize she still got paid, but as has been said, there's no avoiding that.

They banned her after comments she made about Hitler and she eventually agreed to sell her interest in the Reds.
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Did some light googling after finding out Sterling had a girlfriend who looked no older than 30, and this dude has a wife? Like, does anyone else find THAT whole situation very uncomfortable, gross, and dysfunctional? Then you consider the fact that Donald is an awful excuse for a human being and...just, man, c'mon. I can't believe this is happening in 2014. I guess I can't be too surprised though, given his track record.

As for saying he'll "win" if the NBA forces him out of the league, I really don't think there can be many winners coming out of a situation like this no matter what the outcome is. It's just sad.

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What did baseball do to Marge Schott? She was worse than this guy. Didn't they make her disappear, even if they couldn't take the team? I realize she still got paid, but as has been said, there's no avoiding that.

Marge Schott had business partners on the Reds and MLB basically arraigned a hostile takeover to buy her out.

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Question for the community: couldn't the other 29 owners force the Clippers out and thusly Sterling? Couldn't the owners say they don't want to play Sterlings team any more unitil the Clippers are no longer associated with him.

I don't think so. The NBA can't "force" him out. The Clippers are a NBA team, and Sterling owns them. You can't just take the team away because he's a terrible human being. So they'd have to convince him to sell the team himself. Which means that he'll make a nice chunk of change.

no what he was asking is if they can force the clippers out of the NBA, not Sterling, which i don't know about completely but i feel it could be possible with a vote from the owners, and i feel it would need to be close to unanimous

That's what I meant. I think it's possible for the other 29 teams to force the Clippers (as a team) out, but not Sterling himself.

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self-plagiarizing schlock merchant

I feel like this needs to be on a t-shirt.

This would be an awesome slogan for those T shirts you see during fraternity rush season at major universities.

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