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Carolina will need Seattle to treat this both as a look ahead game + a play down to your opponent game, to succeed.

Panthers if they come out fighting could make a game of it. They'll lose, but for viewing purposes at least keep it within 9pts.

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I haven't seen officials try so hard to hand a game to a team since Super Bowl XL. I don't have anything against the Cowboys but I want to see the Pack absolutely humiliate them next week.

Lions fans have every right to be upset here.

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I haven't seen officials try so hard to hand a game to a team since Super Bowl XL. I don't have anything against the Cowboys but I want to see the Pack absolutely humiliate them next week.

Lions fans have every right to be upset here.

Was the rest of the game as bad as that one PI call? Curious though... while I don't think games are "fixed" (I do think that in some cases they are intentionally weighted in favor of a beneficial outcome... and in the case of XL, heavily weighted), why would he even throw the flag in the first place? Or are maybe the non-referees not in on it, and the head ref overruled it?

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One call against a team rarely wins the game for the other, and the Lions still had an opportunity to stop the Cowboys on the ensuing drive and they couldn't. The Lions had two chances in the final two minutes plus to win the game and the couldn't. I agree It was a poor call, if it wasn't pass interference there was a nice jersey grab prior to the pass, which is holding on the defense.

I think the frustration of Detroit was that it was like 20 seconds or something into the play clock of the next play before Morelli and Crew decided to pick up the flag.

The scary thought here all four games this weekend were horribly officiated. While I didn't see a lot of the Ravens/Steelers game (I was watching the Sharks try to play all cute and fancy and lose against a top tier team) I saw a couple phantom calls in that game. The Arizona-Carolina game might have been the worst as there was about five phantom calls against each team. If these crews that officiated the Wildcard games are the best we have...YIKES!

Officials want to get it right, but seem so afraid to make the wrong call, officials are second guessing themselves which I believe is a product of Instant Replay. I don't if they themselves are penalized for having to review a play, but there are very few "I'm sure and definitive on my call" calls anymore. Notice the time it takes for officials to communicate with each other on a simple holding on the offensive penalty - even with the wireless headsets and Situation Center in New York. I'm not saying we should eliminate Instant Replay, I'm just saying that there has to be a better more efficient way to get the correct call. Obviously the bottom line is getting the calls right. But of course they had to inject confusing wording into the lexicon of Instant Replay. Why? Because they feel the need to confuse help everyone watching, listening and calling the game.

Stands: No conclusive video evidence sufficient enough to overturn the call.

Confirmed: Video evidence shows the call on the field was correct.

Reversed: Video evidence shows the call on the field was incorrect.

Yes, sounds simple but if so then why do I see so many referees making the wrong wording? I really don't think we need "confirmed" in there. Either there's enough evidence on the video or there isn't. I know reviewing everything is a bit crazy, but things like forward progress and pass interference should be reviewable. While I understand there are reasons for not having the be reviewable, they really feel like an easy out for the officials: "Oh I didn't see the play, uh...my ruling is...uh....forward progress was stopped."

Also the Basketball style ticky-tack penalties need to stop. There needs to be clear and concise definitions of what is and is not PI and call it effectively. I think "you know who" somehow sneaked his way onto the NFL Board.

 

 

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So basically the officials pulled an 03 national championship with a crappy PI call, which gave the other team momentum to win the game?

NO. They called the pass interference over the mic. Then decided not to call it and picked the flag up.

The 03 NCG was correct.

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It's funny how a lot of L.A. sports fans are Cowboys fans. Yeah I know they train in Oxnard but it still reeks of being a front runner.

*Yawn*

or it could be because a.) we have family who've rooted for the Cowboys prior to our birth and/or b.) because a lot of us grew up without a team in LA.

I always chalked it up to their Oxnard training camps and winning Super Bowls (with a UCLA QB to boot) right when we lost our teams. (And for me personally, my friends were Cowboys fans because our local pop warner team was the Cowboys. (And also the Pats. So screw 'em all haha.))

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Yeah, there are also a TON of Southern Californians who are 49ers fans for similar reasons. Can't knock em for rooting for the NFC teams who are closest to them (The Cardinals don't count because they literally didn't count for decades) when they don't have a team to cheer for.

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Cowboys fans are not willing to address the 800 lb elephant in the room. Picking up the flag? Dez Bryant not being penalized for coming on the field?

How about the non call on Detroit for running into our punter? How about the bogus offensive PI called on Terrence Williams in the 2nd quarter? My point is bad calls happen to both teams.

In my opinion, after that penalty where the officials picked up the flag, their punter kicking the ball ten freakin' yards did them more harm.

I didn't see anything so egregious that I thought the refs were throwing the game in any one teams direction. I just thought they were not very good today.

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I was actually rooting for the Cowboys today (Suh and Raiola have actually made the Lions easier to hate, no small feat there)... or for most of the day anyway, until they were gifted that PI reversal. Having seen, in person, an NASL team getting screwed out of their playoffs in similar fashion just two months ago, to see it happen here was just too much. And to hear Mike Pereira try to make excuses for the officials (he chalked it all up to a lack of chemistry among the officials from different crews) was just pathetic and lame.

After that I couldn't care less who won, as long as they get absolutely crushed the following week. As it turns out, it falls to my Packers to see to that.

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Cowboys fans are not willing to address the 800 lb elephant in the room. Picking up the flag? Dez Bryant not being penalized for coming on the field?

How about the non call on Detroit for running into our punter? How about the bogus offensive PI called on Terrence Williams in the 2nd quarter? My point is bad calls happen to both teams.

In my opinion, after that penalty where the officials picked up the flag, their punter kicking the ball ten freakin' yards did them more harm.

I didn't see anything so egregious that I thought the refs were throwing the game in any one teams direction. I just thought they were not very good today.

Rose colored glasses, dude.

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Cowboys fans are not willing to address the 800 lb elephant in the room. Picking up the flag? Dez Bryant not being penalized for coming on the field?

How about the non call on Detroit for running into our punter? How about the bogus offensive PI called on Terrence Williams in the 2nd quarter? My point is bad calls happen to both teams.

In my opinion, after that penalty where the officials picked up the flag, their punter kicking the ball ten freakin' yards did them more harm.

I didn't see anything so egregious that I thought the refs were throwing the game in any one teams direction. I just thought they were not very good today.

Don't even bother man. Everything is fixed and the Cowboys were handed this victory. :Eye Roll:
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Cowboys fans are not willing to address the 800 lb elephant in the room. Picking up the flag? Dez Bryant not being penalized for coming on the field?

How about the non call on Detroit for running into our punter? How about the bogus offensive PI called on Terrence Williams in the 2nd quarter? My point is bad calls happen to both teams.

In my opinion, after that penalty where the officials picked up the flag, their punter kicking the ball ten freakin' yards did them more harm.

I didn't see anything so egregious that I thought the refs were throwing the game in any one teams direction. I just thought they were not very good today.

That doesn't make any sense. The bad punt did them more harm than the blown call? They only punted because of the bad call.

I don't get it... Is it that difficult for people to admit when their team gets a lucky break?

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The refs decided that game no doubt about it. Roger Goodell wants a Dallas-New England Super Bowl and he is going to make sure it happens. That PI called changed the outcome, the ball was at the Cowboys 30, if its a first down Dallas needs to start using their timeouts. Even if Detroit does not gain another yard it is a makeable Field Goal. So down 6 with two minutes left can Romo go 80 yards? I think not.

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Is it that hard to admit one iffy call shouldn't define the game? Detroit had their chances. Detroit had their share of things go their way. Rose colored glasses? No f#cking way.

I can see a lot of anti-Dallas bias on this thread. Where was the flag on the next series on the guy pulling Witten by his belt? Detroit running into the kicker…..non call? Terrence Williams offensive pass interference?

I like how the guy above me calls out Cowboys fans for not "admitting" something, when it seems like a bunch of us have addressed it. I wish all the the people here that hate the Cowboys so much would do the same.

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