2014 NFL Season Thread

[See Red]

Quick little rant: On Facebook and Twitter, I have seen a lot of hate being shown towards the Cowboys about the call tonight, and I've heard "karma" being used a lot. Well, the Cowboys aren't the reason the call was reversed. Blame the refs, not the team that won.

I still don't understand how people think it was a bad call. I can't think of an instance I've seen in the NFL in the last 3 or so years where, even after a challenge, they've ruled in favor of the WR on a play like that. The rule doesn't say anything about a football move or about reaching forward or anything, it just says if you go to the ground in the process of making a catch, you have to possess the ball through contact with the ground, which he did not. It is a stupid, stupid rule. But as per the rules, the call was correct.

[rams80]

The 12 man thing I get - that's nauseating. I also get that people don't all like Pete Carroll - he comes off as a little smug. That being said, I find it hard not to like this seahawks team. I haven't seem them play much but fell in love during the SB, and that affair has continued this season when I've seen them (i did not see this weekends games.) I absolutely want them to win, and to become the dominant heel that every team in the NFC needs to step up and beat. Two SBs doesn't make you a dynasty, but it's about as close as you're going to get anymore, and I think sports needs that.

You don't share a room division with them. They can fall into to sea at any time and I'd be cool with that.

[OnWis97]

Quick little rant: On Facebook and Twitter, I have seen a lot of hate being shown towards the Cowboys about the call tonight, and I've heard "karma" being used a lot. Well, the Cowboys aren't the reason the call was reversed. Blame the refs, not the team that won.

I still don't understand how people think it was a bad call. I can't think of an instance I've seen in the NFL in the last 3 or so years where, even after a challenge, they've ruled in favor of the WR on a play like that. The rule doesn't say anything about a football move or about reaching forward or anything, it just says if you go to the ground in the process of making a catch, you have to possess the ball through contact with the ground, which he did not. It is a stupid, stupid rule. But as per the rules, the call was correct.

But there has to be some way to draw that line. Some people have been saying "football move". He had three steps. Obviously if he'd run 15 yards, it would be a catch/fumble. Maybe we are not even disagreeing; that is what makes the rule so terrible. Based on my reading of the rule, I honestly would not know what to call this play. Why? Because a line has to be drawn; somewhere between one step and after running 15 yards. I don't know where that line is. It sounds, based on Perrera and what I've red, that this call was consistent with the way this rule's been called. But as far as how it's written and what happened...I'd tend to think of it as a catch.

And I still can't imagine this happening to Dallas vs. about 28 of the NFL's teams.

[Unocal]

If Peyton retires, what's his legacy?

I think he'll go down as a stat-stuffing frontrunner who played his best when it mattered least.

When it matters most, he never did a damn thing when it counted.

[DG_ThenNowForever]

Who doesn't like Russell Wilson? I mean, I could see getting tired of the goody-two-shoes act (except that it's not), but what else is there?

Here's the list of quarterbacks you can like and dislike:

OK to Like:

Russell Wilson

Andrew Luck

Derek Carr

Nick Foles

Ryan Tannehill

Tedy Bridgewater

Joe Flacco

Aaron Rodgers, but only kind of

OK to Dislike:

Tom Brady - wins too much and is a prettyboy and probably cheats every game

Peyton Manning - a pretty big loser considering how much he wins; pizza

Tony Romo - never wins

Ben Roethelisberger - sexually assaults women

Jay Cutler - kind of a dick

Andy Dalton - not good at playoffs

Matthew Stafford - can't beat winning teams

Carson Palmer - can't stay healthy or win meaningful games

Mark Sanchez - buttfumble lol

Who cares:

Everyone else

There you go!

[PSUcelticsWON95]

Quick little rant: On Facebook and Twitter, I have seen a lot of hate being shown towards the Cowboys about the call tonight, and I've heard "karma" being used a lot. Well, the Cowboys aren't the reason the call was reversed. Blame the refs, not the team that won.

I still don't understand how people think it was a bad call. I can't think of an instance I've seen in the NFL in the last 3 or so years where, even after a challenge, they've ruled in favor of the WR on a play like that. The rule doesn't say anything about a football move or about reaching forward or anything, it just says if you go to the ground in the process of making a catch, you have to possess the ball through contact with the ground, which he did not. It is a stupid, stupid rule. But as per the rules, the call was correct.

But there has to be some way to draw that line. Some people have been saying "football move". He had three steps. Obviously if he'd run 15 yards, it would be a catch/fumble. Maybe we are not even disagreeing; that is what makes the rule so terrible. Based on my reading of the rule, I honestly would not know what to call this play. Why? Because a line has to be drawn; somewhere between one step and after running 15 yards. I don't know where that line is. It sounds, based on Perrera and what I've red, that this call was consistent with the way this rule's been called. But as far as how it's written and what happened...I'd tend to think of it as a catch.

And I still can't imagine this happening to Dallas vs. about 28 of the NFL's teams.

The call being reversed that I was originally referring to was the one against Detroit that got people all riled up to begin with. I was unable to watch the game today, and I actually just watched the footage of the catch right now. If it were me, the ruling would have stood. It was ruled a catch on the field, and I don't think there was enough to overturn the call. It was definitely close, though, no doubt.

[Lee Noire]

Quick little rant: On Facebook and Twitter, I have seen a lot of hate being shown towards the Cowboys about the call tonight, and I've heard "karma" being used a lot. Well, the Cowboys aren't the reason the call was reversed. Blame the refs, not the team that won.

I still don't understand how people think it was a bad call. I can't think of an instance I've seen in the NFL in the last 3 or so years where, even after a challenge, they've ruled in favor of the WR on a play like that. The rule doesn't say anything about a football move or about reaching forward or anything, it just says if you go to the ground in the process of making a catch, you have to possess the ball through contact with the ground, which he did not. It is a stupid, stupid rule. But as per the rules, the call was correct.

But there has to be some way to draw that line. Some people have been saying "football move". He had three steps. Obviously if he'd run 15 yards, it would be a catch/fumble. Maybe we are not even disagreeing; that is what makes the rule so terrible. Based on my reading of the rule, I honestly would not know what to call this play. Why? Because a line has to be drawn; somewhere between one step and after running 15 yards. I don't know where that line is. It sounds, based on Perrera and what I've red, that this call was consistent with the way this rule's been called. But as far as how it's written and what happened...I'd tend to think of it as a catch.

And I still can't imagine this happening to Dallas vs. about 28 of the NFL's teams.

I'm bias, but once his knee hit he should've been down by contact. At that point he had possession, and it wasn't until he went for the goal line when the ball got loose. That is such a weird rule.

[rams80]

If Peyton retires, what's his legacy?

I think he'll go down as a stat-stuffing frontrunner who played his best when it mattered least.

When it matters most, he never did a damn thing when it counted.

In lieu of just suggesting that you attempt some activity that would end in your certain demise, I'll just put this out there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZmWpppLC80

He won a ing Super Bowl dip . More recently than Tom Brady did and more than Jim Kelly ever did.

[rams80]

Who doesn't like Russell Wilson?

I'll get on liking him the second Seattle trades him to an AFC team.

[infrared41]

Who doesn't like Russell Wilson?

A whole lot of people - including his teammates if the press is to be believed.

EDIT: Wilson's "goody two shoes" bit is totally an act.

[BBTV]

Who doesn't like Russell Wilson?

A whole lot of people - including his teammates if the press is to be believed.

EDIT: Wilson's "goody two shoes" bit is totally an act.

He ain't black, he's wack. That's what it boils down to. And it's stupid.

[See Red]

Quick little rant: On Facebook and Twitter, I have seen a lot of hate being shown towards the Cowboys about the call tonight, and I've heard "karma" being used a lot. Well, the Cowboys aren't the reason the call was reversed. Blame the refs, not the team that won.

I still don't understand how people think it was a bad call. I can't think of an instance I've seen in the NFL in the last 3 or so years where, even after a challenge, they've ruled in favor of the WR on a play like that. The rule doesn't say anything about a football move or about reaching forward or anything, it just says if you go to the ground in the process of making a catch, you have to possess the ball through contact with the ground, which he did not. It is a stupid, stupid rule. But as per the rules, the call was correct.

But there has to be some way to draw that line. Some people have been saying "football move". He had three steps. Obviously if he'd run 15 yards, it would be a catch/fumble. Maybe we are not even disagreeing; that is what makes the rule so terrible. Based on my reading of the rule, I honestly would not know what to call this play. Why? Because a line has to be drawn; somewhere between one step and after running 15 yards. I don't know where that line is. It sounds, based on Perrera and what I've red, that this call was consistent with the way this rule's been called. But as far as how it's written and what happened...I'd tend to think of it as a catch.

And I still can't imagine this happening to Dallas vs. about 28 of the NFL's teams.

It's a stupid rule, there's no arguing that. And you can look at it and, if you've never seen an NFL game in your life, wonder how it's even a question of whether or not he caught the ball... but that's the way it's called in the NFL and it's the way it's been called and for that reason, it was the right call.

Quick little rant: On Facebook and Twitter, I have seen a lot of hate being shown towards the Cowboys about the call tonight, and I've heard "karma" being used a lot. Well, the Cowboys aren't the reason the call was reversed. Blame the refs, not the team that won.

I still don't understand how people think it was a bad call. I can't think of an instance I've seen in the NFL in the last 3 or so years where, even after a challenge, they've ruled in favor of the WR on a play like that. The rule doesn't say anything about a football move or about reaching forward or anything, it just says if you go to the ground in the process of making a catch, you have to possess the ball through contact with the ground, which he did not. It is a stupid, stupid rule. But as per the rules, the call was correct.

But there has to be some way to draw that line. Some people have been saying "football move". He had three steps. Obviously if he'd run 15 yards, it would be a catch/fumble. Maybe we are not even disagreeing; that is what makes the rule so terrible. Based on my reading of the rule, I honestly would not know what to call this play. Why? Because a line has to be drawn; somewhere between one step and after running 15 yards. I don't know where that line is. It sounds, based on Perrera and what I've red, that this call was consistent with the way this rule's been called. But as far as how it's written and what happened...I'd tend to think of it as a catch.

And I still can't imagine this happening to Dallas vs. about 28 of the NFL's teams.

I'm bias, but once his knee hit he should've been down by contact. At that point he had possession, and it wasn't until he went for the goal line when the ball got loose. That is such a weird rule.

But that's just not how the rule has ever been called. He had to possess the ball through contact with the ground. He did not.

[OnWis97]

Quick little rant: On Facebook and Twitter, I have seen a lot of hate being shown towards the Cowboys about the call tonight, and I've heard "karma" being used a lot. Well, the Cowboys aren't the reason the call was reversed. Blame the refs, not the team that won.

I still don't understand how people think it was a bad call. I can't think of an instance I've seen in the NFL in the last 3 or so years where, even after a challenge, they've ruled in favor of the WR on a play like that. The rule doesn't say anything about a football move or about reaching forward or anything, it just says if you go to the ground in the process of making a catch, you have to possess the ball through contact with the ground, which he did not. It is a stupid, stupid rule. But as per the rules, the call was correct.

But there has to be some way to draw that line. Some people have been saying "football move". He had three steps. Obviously if he'd run 15 yards, it would be a catch/fumble. Maybe we are not even disagreeing; that is what makes the rule so terrible. Based on my reading of the rule, I honestly would not know what to call this play. Why? Because a line has to be drawn; somewhere between one step and after running 15 yards. I don't know where that line is. It sounds, based on Perrera and what I've red, that this call was consistent with the way this rule's been called. But as far as how it's written and what happened...I'd tend to think of it as a catch.

And I still can't imagine this happening to Dallas vs. about 28 of the NFL's teams.

I'm bias, but once his knee hit he should've been down by contact. At that point he had possession, and it wasn't until he went for the goal line when the ball got loose. That is such a weird rule.

I wanted to make that argument but I kinda think he gained possession after contact was done being made.

Am I also the only one not convinced the ball hit the ground at all?

[Seadragon76]

The 12 man thing I get - that's nauseating. I also get that people don't all like Pete Carroll - he comes off as a little smug. That being said, I find it hard not to like this seahawks team. I haven't seem them play much but fell in love during the SB, and that affair has continued this season when I've seen them (i did not see this weekends games.) I absolutely want them to win, and to become the dominant heel that every team in the NFC needs to step up and beat. Two SBs doesn't make you a dynasty, but it's about as close as you're going to get anymore, and I think sports needs that.

Heel? Really??

I guess finally being able to see my team win a title and on target to have a repeat might carry that label.

But, as a fan... this is a long time coming. There have been great moments for the Seahawks. I'm old enough to remember the days of Chuck Knox and Curt Warner (That's Curt with a 'C' mind you) and Dave Krieg. Those were good times then. Then everything nearly fell apart. I was still young, but learning that the owner threaten to move the team to Los Angeles is a scary thing.

Not to mention that before last year, the sports fan in Seattle had the burden of knowing that it has been since 1979 when the Sonics won the NBA championship. Now, it just feels weird that people have jumped on the bandwagon.

I'm a loyal fan, and that means that my team is the one everyone hates... so be it. I love being the hunter and not the hunted.

[infrared41]

Who doesn't like Russell Wilson?

A whole lot of people - including his teammates if the press is to be believed.

EDIT: Wilson's "goody two shoes" bit is totally an act.

He ain't black, he's wack. That's what it boils down to. And it's stupid.

If you're referring to Wilson's teammates, the ones that don't like him feel that way because they see him as an arrogant ass.

If you're referring to me, go yourself.

[Lee Noire]

Quick little rant: On Facebook and Twitter, I have seen a lot of hate being shown towards the Cowboys about the call tonight, and I've heard "karma" being used a lot. Well, the Cowboys aren't the reason the call was reversed. Blame the refs, not the team that won.

I still don't understand how people think it was a bad call. I can't think of an instance I've seen in the NFL in the last 3 or so years where, even after a challenge, they've ruled in favor of the WR on a play like that. The rule doesn't say anything about a football move or about reaching forward or anything, it just says if you go to the ground in the process of making a catch, you have to possess the ball through contact with the ground, which he did not. It is a stupid, stupid rule. But as per the rules, the call was correct.

But there has to be some way to draw that line. Some people have been saying "football move". He had three steps. Obviously if he'd run 15 yards, it would be a catch/fumble. Maybe we are not even disagreeing; that is what makes the rule so terrible. Based on my reading of the rule, I honestly would not know what to call this play. Why? Because a line has to be drawn; somewhere between one step and after running 15 yards. I don't know where that line is. It sounds, based on Perrera and what I've red, that this call was consistent with the way this rule's been called. But as far as how it's written and what happened...I'd tend to think of it as a catch.

And I still can't imagine this happening to Dallas vs. about 28 of the NFL's teams.

I'm bias, but once his knee hit he should've been down by contact. At that point he had possession, and it wasn't until he went for the goal line when the ball got loose. That is such a weird rule.

I wanted to make that argument but I kinda think he gained possession after contact was done being made.

Am I also the only one not convinced the ball hit the ground at all?

I don't know man, the whole thing makes my head hurt. I'm still trying to figure out how they called the pass Cobb dropped a completion. That ball clearly touched the ground.

[OnWis97]

Who doesn't like Russell Wilson?

A whole lot of people - including his teammates if the press is to be believed.

EDIT: Wilson's "goody two shoes" bit is totally an act.

He ain't black, he's wack. That's what it boils down to. And it's stupid.

If you're referring to Wilson's teammates, the ones that don't like him feel that way because they see him as an arrogant ass.

If you're referring to me, go yourself.

I thought there was stuff about Wilson "not being black enough." At it's face, that is stupid. If they generally see him as an arrogant ass, that could be different.

[burgundy]

Hopefully, we'll get Colts - Packers. (What a great uniform match up.)

That would be one of the best SB uniform matchups of all time. Although I may be biased, as some of my favorite SB uniform matchups also include either the Packers or Colts.

Seahawks - Patriots would be an absolute nightmare to watch. Mismatched design elements, clunky numbers, Seahawks in monochrome, Patriots in those awful blue pants... Ugh, I think I just threw up in my mouth a little.

[See Red]

Quick little rant: On Facebook and Twitter, I have seen a lot of hate being shown towards the Cowboys about the call tonight, and I've heard "karma" being used a lot. Well, the Cowboys aren't the reason the call was reversed. Blame the refs, not the team that won.

I still don't understand how people think it was a bad call. I can't think of an instance I've seen in the NFL in the last 3 or so years where, even after a challenge, they've ruled in favor of the WR on a play like that. The rule doesn't say anything about a football move or about reaching forward or anything, it just says if you go to the ground in the process of making a catch, you have to possess the ball through contact with the ground, which he did not. It is a stupid, stupid rule. But as per the rules, the call was correct.

But there has to be some way to draw that line. Some people have been saying "football move". He had three steps. Obviously if he'd run 15 yards, it would be a catch/fumble. Maybe we are not even disagreeing; that is what makes the rule so terrible. Based on my reading of the rule, I honestly would not know what to call this play. Why? Because a line has to be drawn; somewhere between one step and after running 15 yards. I don't know where that line is. It sounds, based on Perrera and what I've red, that this call was consistent with the way this rule's been called. But as far as how it's written and what happened...I'd tend to think of it as a catch.

And I still can't imagine this happening to Dallas vs. about 28 of the NFL's teams.

I'm bias, but once his knee hit he should've been down by contact. At that point he had possession, and it wasn't until he went for the goal line when the ball got loose. That is such a weird rule.

I wanted to make that argument but I kinda think he gained possession after contact was done being made.

Am I also the only one not convinced the ball hit the ground at all?

I don't know man, the whole thing makes my head hurt. I'm still trying to figure out how they called the pass Cobb dropped a completion. That ball clearly touched the ground.

The ball can touch the ground and still be a catch.

[Lee Noire]

Quick little rant: On Facebook and Twitter, I have seen a lot of hate being shown towards the Cowboys about the call tonight, and I've heard "karma" being used a lot. Well, the Cowboys aren't the reason the call was reversed. Blame the refs, not the team that won.

I still don't understand how people think it was a bad call. I can't think of an instance I've seen in the NFL in the last 3 or so years where, even after a challenge, they've ruled in favor of the WR on a play like that. The rule doesn't say anything about a football move or about reaching forward or anything, it just says if you go to the ground in the process of making a catch, you have to possess the ball through contact with the ground, which he did not. It is a stupid, stupid rule. But as per the rules, the call was correct.

But there has to be some way to draw that line. Some people have been saying "football move". He had three steps. Obviously if he'd run 15 yards, it would be a catch/fumble. Maybe we are not even disagreeing; that is what makes the rule so terrible. Based on my reading of the rule, I honestly would not know what to call this play. Why? Because a line has to be drawn; somewhere between one step and after running 15 yards. I don't know where that line is. It sounds, based on Perrera and what I've red, that this call was consistent with the way this rule's been called. But as far as how it's written and what happened...I'd tend to think of it as a catch.

And I still can't imagine this happening to Dallas vs. about 28 of the NFL's teams.

I'm bias, but once his knee hit he should've been down by contact. At that point he had possession, and it wasn't until he went for the goal line when the ball got loose. That is such a weird rule.

I wanted to make that argument but I kinda think he gained possession after contact was done being made.

Am I also the only one not convinced the ball hit the ground at all?

I don't know man, the whole thing makes my head hurt. I'm still trying to figure out how they called the pass Cobb dropped a completion. That ball clearly touched the ground.

The ball can touch the ground and still be a catch.

I'm somewhere between Jackie Chan confused face, and Playstation Guy mind blown gif on that one. Fix it NFL.